Who did this work?

[Mills Morrison]

These are the markings on the 28 gauge barrels on a GH. Anyone recognize the markings or have any idea who may have done the rebarrelling?

[Dean Romig]

Who used stars to indicate points of choke?





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[Mills Morrison]

Yes. It seemed I have heard of someone doing that but can't remember who.

The fore end lug is from a VH 20 gauge but the barrels are non Parker

[MattHaney]

The stars would not be unusual on a European gun. I seem to recall seeing a Parker with Italian-made replacement barrels.

[Daniel Carter]

I have 2 Baretta 53E o\u that use a very similar star to indicate choke.

[Randy G Roberts]

But there are stars on only one barrel, at least on my phone. What about the other barrel if that is the choke marking.

[Bob Hayes]

I see one star on the other barrel.

[Randy G Roberts]

I see one star on the other barrel.

Gotcha. Can't see that on the old Droid.

[Dean Romig]

So, it appears to have 1/4 choke in the left barrel and 3/4 choke in the right???... odd.






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[Mills Morrison]

There are stars on both barrels. European makes a lot of sense

Does the stamping on the lug ring any bells? I would think that would be a signature mark

[Gary Bodrato]

printed same reply twice, how to you delete one?

[Gary Bodrato]

28 and 32 thousands constriction on a 28 gauge would be 028=extra full and 032 would appear to never have been choked


Italians choke marks I find would be one* full choke, three stars *** modified ,but that would not equate to the 28, 32 constriction marks

[Bob Hayes]

Possibly a set of guild barrels??

[Drew Hause]

Interesting Mills and thanks for posting. As Gary said, Italian or Belgian barrels would carry proofmarks

Rebarreled Smith by Armi Sarezzo

http://pic20.picturetrail.com:80/VOL1373/6511424/19686599/378131107.jpg

Armaf for Atlas Arms

http://pic20.picturetrail.com:80/VOL1373/6511424/17227428/391381482.jpg

I'm thinking Japanese

[Drew Hause]

We've seen those stars before - Ken Descovich's

http://pic20.picturetrail.com:80/VOL1373/6511424/17227428/391381339.jpg

I enhanced Mills' image, and it looks like some marks were ground off

http://pic20.picturetrail.com:80/VOL1373/6511424/17227428/414289302.jpg

[Mills Morrison]

Very possible stuff was ground off

[Ronald Scott]

Who used stars to indicate points of choke?.

I've seen them on the Smith & Wesson Elite Gold side-by-side. AKUS in Huglu, Turkey was the manufacturer, who now makes the Dickinson Arms Plantation and Estate models.

[Craig Budgeon]

If the top rib duplicates Parker matting without the barrel steel or address on the barrels it maybe a product of Lefever Arms. Without proof marks I doubt those barrels originated in Europe or Canada.

[Mills Morrison]

If the top rib duplicates Parker matting without the barrel steel or address on the barrels it maybe a product of Lefever Arms. Without proof marks I doubt those barrels originated in Europe or Canada.

That is just what it does Craig.

[Mills Morrison]

The Lefever shop makes the most sense. The rib matting is just as Craig describes. Anyone else care to chime in?

[Brian Dudley]

How about we see some photos of that matting Mills?

[Mills Morrison]

Will do as soon as I get home.

[Gary Bodrato]

Craigs theory sounds most plausible, but Did DelGrego have a supply of unfinished barrels when he bought out the Parker inventory ?

[Dean Romig]

Yes he did but he wouldn't have marked the barrels with stars to indicate points of choke nor would the lugs have been stamped in that manner, nor would he have marked the tubes with 28 and 32.





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[Mills Morrison]

Pretty sure it was not Del Grego. Here is the rib and two others. Notice the original serial number of the VH 20 where the lug came from and then the receiver serial number of the GH.

[Brian Dudley]

That is NOT Parker matting. It is similar in style, but it was not done on the factory equipment. So that rules out Lefever. I have seen this style of matting on other aftermarket barrels before.

[Mills Morrison]

Ok. Where have you seen it? There could not have been too many shops doing that work

[Craig Budgeon]

Mills, Brians right that is not what I expected to see. Why the unmatted area? Remington did not roll stamp address or barrel steel on there replacement barrels. Looks like Baker matting to me. I have seen a couple of unfinished Parker barrel blanks for sale over several decades. When I visited Lefever in 1973 or '74, I was shown the remaining unfinished barrels which amounted to 13/14 sets, I was told by Dick ? that there was one 00 set a very few 1 1/2 and the balance #1 16 ga. sets.

[Bill Murphy]

There were many shops doing Parker barrel work in the sixties.

[Dean Romig]

Remington barrel ribs were fully matted with no blank space at all.





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[Mills Morrison]

Thanks for the replies. It might remain a mystery after all

[Gary Bodrato]

i found these Winchester model 21 barrels on ebay. Clearly marked "Atlas, Chicago". Most Atlas over unders I have encountered were made by A. Zoli (Antonio?) They may have in fact imported barrels for American guns on order, not sure. I seem to remember Atlas was a machine shop in Chicago, Ithink they stopped gun sales around 1971?. Anyway the choke and rib markings look close to your Parker unknowns

[Mills Morrison]

They do. Thanks Gary

[Drew Hause]

Thanks for finding those barrels Gary.
Steve Tasitritsis 'ATLAS ARMS', was at 2704 N Central, Chicago and (later) 7952 Waukegan Rd. Niles, Illinois. The replacement barrels for Smith and Parker guns in the 50s and 60s used tubes made by E.S.C. Vickers (England) and were fit and finished by Armaf in Belgium.
If the Winchester 21 barrels were Belgian or Italian they should carry proofmarks. Very interesting. And what was the source of the "Special Nickel Chromium Steel" tubes??

[Brian Dudley]

Years ago I had a Parker with Vickers replacement barrels. I do not recall any Stars on them, but it has been a long time. I went through my saved photos and looked at the gun. There were a few other details about them regarding the extractor and the rib extension that makes me thing that is NOT what Mills has here.