Federal Gold Medal Paper?

[Mike Stahle]

Just ordered a case of these, anyone else use these?
What do you think of them?
Federal Gold Medal Target - Paper, 12 Ga. 2¾"
T118-7 12ga. 2 3/4" 7.5 1 1/8oz. 1200 FPS

[Bruce Day]

Have several cases of them. Great shells, great smell. They will stand 5 or 6 reloads, watch for pinholes at the top of the brass base. I have an old Double Automatic and some will hang up in that. Costly.

[Robert Rambler]

Many millions have been fired on the trap fields, a classic. :)

[Dave Noreen]

I try to always have a flat of them around for when I need the good smell. Killed a Pheasant with one out of the right barrel of my old 1914-vintage A-Grade Fox on 8 November 2010. I have a handful off old Federal paper 16-gauges, but didn't use any today when I was out with a 16-gauge. Bruce is right about cost. The invoice in my currant flat is $108 plus Washington State sales tax!!

[Mike Stahle]

Hummm! :)
I didn't think the price was all that bad.
I just sent for 10 boxes for $76.99 + $11.00 shipping.

[Mike Stahle]

So what's the deal with the different smell?
Is it the paper shell or a different type of powder
used in these shells.

[Eric Eis]

The paper.....

[Mike Franzen]

Does anyone know how much pressure these generate?

[Chuck Heald]

Does anyone know how much pressure these generate?

I don't have any info on the T118, but I bought a few flats of Golden Medal Extra-lite paper T172 years ago and was curious about pressures, so I called them. The tech said "we like to keep them around 9500 psi." T172 is 1 1/8 oz. @ 1100 fps. I had hopeday to used them in my damascus guns but 9500 is too high. So, I shot about two flats into my steel barreled vintage double designed for that pressure.

I did work up a 6500 psi 1oz @ 1150 fps load in those hulls and have killed a few wild roosters with it as well as quail with my damascus guns, by loading them with either 7 1/2 or 5 shot.

[Chuck Heald]

If you're willing to send a handful to Ambrust for testing, them T175 with 1oz @1180 fps sounds promising to have low pressures.

[Mike Stahle]

Two thumbs up, I love these. :)

Federal Gold Medal Target - Paper, 12 Ga. 2¾"
T118-7 12ga. 2 3/4" 7.5 1 1/8oz. 1200 FPS

You guys are very right. The smell and the paper shell just seem
so right.

O and I still have 10 fingers and Damascus barrels that don't look
like swiss cheese. ;)

[Bruce Day]

That is essentially a 3 dram 1 1/8oz that tens of thousands of 12ga Parkers, fluid and damascus, were factory patterned with.

The MEC bushing #33 load Mr Cash mentioned above is what I reload the hulls with.

Mike, at what you paid for them, you got a great deal.

[Bobby Cash]

Data for a MEC reloader using a #33 and #34 powder bushing rescpectively.

Lead Shot 12 1 oz. Clays 18 gr. Win. 209 Windjammer 5,800 PSI 1180
Lead Shot 12 1 oz. Clays 19.5 gr. Win. 209 Windjammer 7,300 PSI 1235

[Mike Stahle]

That is essentially a 3 dram 1 1/8oz that tens of thousands of 12ga Parkers, fluid and damascus, were factory patterned with.

The MEC bushing #33 load Mr Cash mentioned above is what I reload the hulls with.

Mike, at what you paid for them, you got a great deal.

Thanks Bruce,
These shells seem to be very well made as well. (please keep it up Federal :))
Over the years I have seen some rather ugly looking factory crimps. :eek:
These are a breath of old school, paper shotshell fresh air. IMHO ;)