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calvin humburg
11-11-2010, 07:27 AM
Thanks for your service fellows. One nation under God. My heart morns for all who paied the ultament price for me. Can't believe the kids have to go to school today.:banghead: ch
Francis Morin
11-11-2010, 07:46 AM
Stand white crosses all in a row-- So many brave men paid the ultimate price for our freedom we sometimes tend to take for granted nowadays. If you see a Veteran in your travels today, please take a moment and shake his hand and thank him. And fly our Flag!!
Russ Jackson
11-11-2010, 10:33 AM
If this nonsense in Washington keeps up ,it won't be long until we will be arrested for flying our Flag, and YES a big THANK YOU :bowdown: to all of our Vets. They are the real and only reason we still have our freedom to enjoy our gun collecting and all the other Liberties we just seem to take for granted most of the time !
Jack Cronkhite
11-11-2010, 12:53 PM
Yes, THANKS to the Veterans who secured the freedoms we all enjoy. Thinking out loud here but maybe taking the freedoms somewhat for granted is in a way a great compliment. The fact we don't have to look over our shoulder in fear and can go about our daily lives content that tomorrow will come and our children can pursue their own happiness in whatever manner is a testament to what our Veteran's sacrifices have secured for us. We do remember on special days and give pause to think about the cost of freedom and some will remember every day but the vast majority will continue to live day to day without much thought about why they can. In the old forum I posted a Never Off Topic thanks to our Vets because of a small folded newspaper clipping I almost missed but found in an old suitcase of memories that had been ravaged by a flood. Most of the contents I have now managed to salvage. Here are two more that go together well. My mother-in-law was a recent bride when she found herself buried in the rubble of what had been a block of ten homes, thanks to the random nature of a V1 rocket attack. She did survive by getting under a "Morrison" table when she heard the "doodle bug" engine cut out. She was claustrophic her entire life. I have no idea who wrote the poem. I have had it researched by the Imperial War Museum in London but with no success. (A.R.P. refers to Air Raid Precautions - a part of civil defence.) This poem remains anonymous but poignant. (If it is not easy to see, click on it for a larger version and if still not large enough to read, hold down the Ctrl key and then tap the + key a few times. A good trick for old eyes :) ) The newspaper clipping is a salute to the Vets who made the supreme sacrifice.
Jack
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Dean Romig
11-11-2010, 01:13 PM
What a time!
What grit our parents and grandparents had to be able to endure such hell.
What unGodly evil the human mind is capable of to do this to fellow man.
To fight back (and even to be victorious) is right and just and we honor those who did and do.
Dave Suponski
11-11-2010, 01:34 PM
Amen Dean.....Amen
Richard Flanders
11-11-2010, 02:57 PM
Of all the strange and odd things that happen in the world, it's the understanding of the extent of "man's inhumanity to man" that eludes me the most.
william johnson
11-11-2010, 04:22 PM
as a viet nam vet you are all welcome it was an honor to serve
Dean Romig
11-11-2010, 04:31 PM
Thanks William for your service. I wish you could have come home to a more thoughtful and thankful public but with Johnson and McNamara in charge it was just not to be. They are the ones who brought disgrace upon our military, not any of you guys!
Francis Morin
11-11-2010, 04:47 PM
as a viet nam vet you are all welcome it was an honor to serve- I have the tracings and locations on the Wall where the names of two of my very best friends from HS are- both KIA in 'Nam. Donny went from 82nd. Airborne in SF and was killed in an ambush. Tony was a door gunner in the Air Cav on a Huey that took a direct hit from a SAM. I can still close my eyes and see them when we graduated in 1960- we all enlisted as we knew we would be drafted sooner or later. I won't get political in this sector, but Bro Romig has the exact co-ordinates- we were sold out by LBJ and that Ford bean counter McNamara. You don't win wars or conflicts by "micro-managing" troops, you win them the way Gen Patton explained in no uncertain terms to his troops and officers--
My two best friends are gone forever- maybe we'll hoist a few in the next life- and 58286 KIA and countless MIA's are the legacy- they died and that traitor Hanoi Jane Fonda is still alive and doing fine I hear. God sure has a strange sense of humor I guess- Semper Fi!!
Bill Murphy
11-11-2010, 05:52 PM
I was teary eyed when our President spoke on Memorial Day, 2010. He said, "I am here to honor all of our fallen heroes. I see many of you are here today." I wonder if he made a speech about our Veterans from his location in China or wherever the hell he is today? I'm sure it will also bring tears to my eyes today again. Yup, that was me, 11-1-67 to 10-31-69. Thanks to the rest of you today.
Robert Delk
11-11-2010, 06:15 PM
If people really want to honor our veterans they will conduct themselves ethically and with dignity in the tradition that made this country great.We are not black,white,brown,democrat,republican,white collar ,blue collar or anything else before we are Americans,first,foremost and always with pride and a sense of responsibility to ourselves and our fellow man.
John Dallas
11-11-2010, 06:34 PM
Bill - I enlisted two days after you - Friday the 13th of January, '67. I got lucky - OCS, then a brief stateside tour, and then to Korea to command an ammunition company and depot
George Lander
11-11-2010, 06:39 PM
I went to my daughter's school today. She teaches third grade at a rural school here in South Carolina. For several years she has been in charge of putting together a program to honor our veterans on veteran's day. There was a color gaurd from the high school ROTC, music: Or Nation Anthem, The Marine Corps Hymn, The Caissons Go Rolling Along, Anchors Aweigh and Off We Go Into The Wild Blue Yonder. As each was played the vets from that service were asked to stand for applause. The closing song was America. The students had each written a short essay on "MY HERO" The program lasted for about a hour and a half. Several students spoke about a particular serviceman or woman in their family.
I'm not sure if all schools do this but they should. we need things like this to counter the liberal hogwash that in intrenched in the media and in Washington. After our whole family paid a visit to Arlington National Cemetary three years ago my daughter, (her name is Lisha Lander Hylton), wrote a poem entitled "HALLOWED GROUND" which is now on the Arlington National Cemetary web site. Pull it up and if you don't get a lump in your throat you're a tougher guy or gal than I.
My oldest son's Birth Father , (our two boys are adopted, my daughter is "home made") was with a U.S. Army outfit called the MANCHUS. He was "in-country" three months before he was killed. Billy was able to find and trace his name on THE WALL. We all owe a great debt of gratitude to ALL VETERANS, both those that are here and those that have GONE ON.
Best Regards, George RD-2 USN
Bill Murphy
11-12-2010, 08:13 AM
John Dallas, thanks for your comments. I should not try to use military dating after being gone so long. I corrected my dates of service using civilian dating and it came out correct this time.
John Dallas
11-12-2010, 08:17 AM
Bill - Were you lucky enough (?) to spend your basic training at beautiful Fort Dix?
Bill Murphy
11-12-2010, 08:58 AM
Fort Bragg, N.C.
richard lambert
11-12-2010, 10:32 AM
Each generation of our military hope and pray that the next will not have to fight. Where I work, I see our men and women returning home, some with great fanfare, and those with great pain and suffering. Many have adjusted and are trying to help others that have suffered as they did, and some are fresh out of the hospital and have a long journey to get to that point in their lives.
I am proud of those who served when I did, for they have pledged that those returning today will not have too experience what we did on our return.
Retired MSgt. USAF
Francis Morin
11-12-2010, 07:09 PM
Yes, THANKS to the Veterans who secured the freedoms we all enjoy. Thinking out loud here but maybe taking the freedoms somewhat for granted is in a way a great compliment. The fact we don't have to look over our shoulder in fear and can go about our daily lives content that tomorrow will come and our children can pursue their own happiness in whatever manner is a testament to what our Veteran's sacrifices have secured for us. We do remember on special days and give pause to think about the cost of freedom and some will remember every day but the vast majority will continue to live day to day without much thought about why they can. In the old forum I posted a Never Off Topic thanks to our Vets because of a small folded newspaper clipping I almost missed but found in an old suitcase of memories that had been ravaged by a flood. Most of the contents I have now managed to salvage. Here are two more that go together well. My mother-in-law was a recent bride when she found herself buried in the rubble of what had been a block of ten homes, thanks to the random nature of a V1 rocket attack. She did survive by getting under a "Morrison" table when she heard the "doodle bug" engine cut out. She was claustrophic her entire life. I have no idea who wrote the poem. I have had it researched by the Imperial War Museum in London but with no success. (A.R.P. refers to Air Raid Precautions - a part of civil defence.) This poem remains anonymous but poignant. (If it is not easy to see, click on it for a larger version and if still not large enough to read, hold down the Ctrl key and then tap the + key a few times. A good trick for old eyes :) ) The newspaper clipping is a salute to the Vets who made the supreme sacrifice.
Jack
http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/cpg1410/albums/userpics/28884/Siena015.jpg Jack- this poem may have been written by English novelist Eric Blair- you may know him better by his pen name- George Orwell and his best known work- "Animal Farm"-- Blair studied Kipling's works at Oxford College- the poem resonates with some of Kipling's phrasing- I am still researching however- Anon writings are often a great mystery, solving them is a worthy challenge indeed!
Robert Delk
11-12-2010, 07:36 PM
In March of 1966 on a hillside west of Danang Vietnam in heavy jungle a patrol from the 3rd Reconnaissance battalion sat and rested for a few minutes.Thomas Conner turned and smiled at me and then he was gone. I was the last person he saw before he died and I have never forgotten that smile from that 18 year old kid.He had only been on a few patrols and seemed so young,even though he was only a couple of years younger than me.I am sure there are many who remember someone the same way I remember Conners.
richard lambert
11-12-2010, 08:19 PM
Amen!
Frank Cronin
11-13-2010, 10:27 PM
George,
I tried to find the poem your daughter wrote on the Arlington National Cemetery website but could not find it. If you could post a link or copy / paste the poem, I would love to read it.
Thank you Veterans and God Bless America.
Regards,
Frank
I went to my daughter's school today. She teaches third grade at a rural school here in South Carolina. For several years she has been in charge of putting together a program to honor our veterans on veteran's day. There was a color gaurd from the high school ROTC, music: Or Nation Anthem, The Marine Corps Hymn, The Caissons Go Rolling Along, Anchors Aweigh and Off We Go Into The Wild Blue Yonder. As each was played the vets from that service were asked to stand for applause. The closing song was America. The students had each written a short essay on "MY HERO" The program lasted for about a hour and a half. Several students spoke about a particular serviceman or woman in their family.
I'm not sure if all schools do this but they should. we need things like this to counter the liberal hogwash that in intrenched in the media and in Washington. After our whole family paid a visit to Arlington National Cemetary three years ago my daughter, (her name is Lisha Lander Hylton), wrote a poem entitled "HALLOWED GROUND" which is now on the Arlington National Cemetary web site. Pull it up and if you don't get a lump in your throat you're a tougher guy or gal than I.
My oldest son's Birth Father , (our two boys are adopted, my daughter is "home made") was with a U.S. Army outfit called the MANCHUS. He was "in-country" three months before he was killed. Billy was able to find and trace his name on THE WALL. We all owe a great debt of gratitude to ALL VETERANS, both those that are here and those that have GONE ON.
Best Regards, George RD-2 USN
Pete Lester
11-14-2010, 05:06 AM
My late father at age 19 preparing for another mission as a turret gunner on a B-24 over Europe. He flew 35 missions with 56 sorties (bomb runs). His notes say "23 touogh ones with heavy flak and fighter attacks."
I was watching the Military Channel last night, WWII in HD "The Air War". I did not realize the scope of the Air War in Europe in terms of casualties. The 8th Air Force alone, (Dad was in the 15th AF flying out of Italy) lost 26,000 men, more than the USMC lost in all of WWII.
Thanks Dad.
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Jerry Andrews
11-14-2010, 07:35 AM
I have always, no matter where, thanked Veterans for serving if I see them and can identify them. I'll also buy their breakfast/lunch/dinner. It means something to me. It's why we are free. Jerry
George Lander
11-14-2010, 01:30 PM
Frank: If you google the name Lisha Lander Hylton the reference to her poem will come up on the Arlington National Cemetary website. Scroll down until you see "HALLOWED GROUNDS" by Lisha Lander Hylton.
Best regards, George
Bruce Day
11-14-2010, 05:42 PM
Jerry, you don't need to buy me a meal, but maybe 25 years might be good for a bamboo rod......
Kidding, of course. Thanks for the well wishes.
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