Ithaca NID 410 Grade 1, nice find, I think?

[joe breda]

Ithaca NID 410 Grade 1, nice find, I think ?
I been told only 64 Grade 1’s were ever made ?
Circa 1926, still all original. It does have a center bead and has been on there for a long time. It’s very aged. Not sure if it original or not ?
May be a collector gun ? All original, no sign of any restoration.
I like the Grade 1 engraving better than the 2 or 3, any comments?
Reminds me a little of the LC Ideal Grade engraving ?
Standard double trigger extractor gun. Choke 4&4 26” tubes, very nice trigger pulls, I’d say 3-1/2 & 4.
Called Ithaca and the said there are no more records available.
Anyone know where to find any records on them besides manufacturing date ?
Who in the country is and expert on the Ithaca NID’s?
Any help would be appreciated.
Cheers JoeB

[Garry L Gordon]

Very nice looking gun, and I agree about the engraving. I assume you have Snyder's book. He's the best authority I know of for Ithaca double shotguns.

[Reggie Bishop]

Brian at firetower doubles. Great guy.

[Dean Romig]

The Buffalo Bill Museum in Cody, WY I believe has all of the known Ithaca records. Walt sent them what he had.





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[Reggie Bishop]

The records are not available yet.

[Dean Romig]

It’s high time they were. The BB Museum has had the records for over three years according to Walt.

The records should have been sent to Bob Beach.



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[Bill Davis]

Bob Beach did a superb job at G&H as their in house historian. He told me late
last year he was retiring. That’s a nice Grade 1 NID 410 indicator gun. It’s, more then likely, a pre-1930 gun. I collected small bore NID’s for many years and this one, from the limited views, appears to be excellent and original.

[Matt Buckley]

Walt Snyder posts on the doublegun forum and might be able to provide you with a little more info on your NID.

[Randy G Roberts]

Either Walt Snyder or Brian Hunt of Fire Tower Doubles as Reggie suggested. Both are very nice gentlemen and they are very approachable. If it were me I would start with Brian, I only say that as Walt is trying to enjoy what they have deemed the Golden Years and he has turned the records over to Cody as I believe Dean alluded to. Really nice gun BTW.

[Mark Ray]

Really nice gun...i picked up an S grade 28 bore at the Southern in similar condition. Enjoy!

[Dave Noreen]

Sweet!! Would look nice next to my No. 1 28-gauge.

Walter posts mostly on Shotgunworld.com in the Ithaca section. Most likely to get a response there --

https://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewforum.php?f=59&sid=e4911c034521fc4b3aaf1c257eca2422

[Bill Murphy]

Mark, an S grade 28, as in Sousa grade?

[Mark Ray]

No, I wish!! On flues...S was “special grade” or the lowest grade produced. Really handy and light little gun, in about 90% condition.

[Dave Noreen]

i picked up an S grade 28 bore at the Southern in similar condition

A 28-gauge gun with the S in the grade stamp location on the left watertable would be a Flues Model.

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Ithaca Gun Co. used an S for the grade stamp for receivers used for both the Field Grade and the No. 1 Special, (they were the same) from the introduction of the Flues until after WW-I when the No. 1 Special was gone. Perhaps the S stood for Steel barrels which they both had. Around 1920 they began replacing it with a F for Field Grade, but I've recorded Field Grade guns marked with the S into 1922 serial numbers. From before the Flues Model the Field Grade Ithacas had a round knob half-pistol grip stock and Smokeless Powder Steel marked barrels, while the No. 1 Special had a capped pistol grip and Cockerill Steel barrels. Between the July and December 1919 Ithaca Gun Co. catalogs, well after the No. 1 Special was no longer offered, the Field Grade got a capped pistol grip.

[Shawn Wayment]

I have the same gun but mine has been modified.

[Dave Noreen]

With Ithacas I generally only play in the NID field, but when this 30-inch barrel 28-gauge crossed my path I couldn't resist, and then had it Turnbullized to boot!!

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[Dave Noreen]

We've wandered off the original topic of this wonderful NID No. 1 .410-bore, so here is the No. 1 page from a 1926 Ithaca Gun Co. catalog --

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Sorry, but the big Ithaca catalogs are a bit too large for my flat-panel scanner.

[Bobby Cash]

I've shot a pair of birds with this "cutie pie" of a double. What a nice gun!
I can't speak for Joe but so far I'm 100%. :whistle: