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Brian Dudley
06-03-2019, 03:40 PM
The original buttstock on this HE had been pinned a few times in the head and was cut down very short. The owner of it wanted a new stock made from grade appropriate wood with the only changes to be some cast in the stock and to his required LOP with a new Hawkins pad.

A good strong and conservatively beautiful piece of circassian walnut was selected for the job. The original form and style of the stock was replicated. The factory checkering pattern reproduced on the new stock as well. The original forend was in find condition, so it was refinished and its checkering recut.

All of the screws were replaced and engraved to match the originals since they were a little less than perfect.

Next I have to re-blue the barrels and trigger guard before it gets put back to use this upcoming season.

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Joe Graziano
06-03-2019, 03:48 PM
Great job. The stock looks perfect, but not “new”. Very appropriate

Bill Murphy
06-03-2019, 06:04 PM
Great job. What is the approximate cost of such a restock?

charlie cleveland
06-03-2019, 10:02 PM
very good looking stock and gun...charlie

Jim McKee
06-07-2019, 05:47 PM
Excellent work as Always!

Tom Jay
06-09-2019, 06:41 PM
Beautiful

Brian Dudley
02-26-2020, 10:04 AM
I never did get any photos of this gun posted after the barrels and guard were re-blued.
Here are a few.

Barrels rust blued and trigger guard Nitre Blued.

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chris dawe
02-26-2020, 01:52 PM
I'm doing the exact same job at the moment ,with the exception of upgraded wood -small world!

Brian Dudley
02-26-2020, 02:19 PM
With Supers commanding good money as of late, I think people have no issue spending the money on them.

I too have another Super in the works right now. With much nicer wood than this one. It was custom stocked by someone else previously with a piece that should have never been put on the gun. Cross grain in the wrist. After it breaking TWICE in less than 8 years, it was time to replace it again.
The owner did not care about fancy wood, but I am trying to match the forend that is on the gun which is still good.

Mark Garrett
02-26-2020, 03:24 PM
Brain , flawless job as always.

Reggie Bishop
02-26-2020, 03:48 PM
He is a smart guy for sure.

Milton C Starr
02-26-2020, 05:33 PM
I never did get any photos of this gun posted after the barrels and guard were re-blued.
Here are a few.

Barrels rust blued and trigger guard Nitre Blued.

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Would that be called a pow grip or a round grip ? I love the slender ground grip on it , reminds me of the Rem 1894s they all look sleek as well .

Dave Noreen
02-26-2020, 06:52 PM
Would that be called a pow grip or a round grip ?

The A.H. Fox Gun Co. called it a HALF-PISTOL GRIP. I don't have a scan of the HE-Grade catalog text on this laptop, but here is the text and picture for the A-/AE-Grade --

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Likewise, Remington Arms Co. called their "standard" grip a half pistol grip.

I don't know of any American gun manufacturer that catalogued a "Prince of Wales" grip, just straight, half or full pistol grip. Parker Bros. had a variation of their half-pistol grip that swelled at the bottom and collectors today refer to it as a "ball grip".

I think only British makers offered a "Prince of Wales" grip. In the load of repros of English gun catalogues Cote' once sent me, some of them show it capped and some rounded grip for what they called a "Prince of Wales" Grip. I've always felt the capped full pistol grips on the Ithaca Gun Co. Flues Model doubles looked a lot like the "Prince of Wales" grips with caps in the English catalogues.

Milton C Starr
02-26-2020, 07:01 PM
The A.H. Fox Gun Co. called it a HALF-PISTOL GRIP. I don't have a scan of the HE-Grade catalog text on this laptop, but here is the text and picture for the A-/AE-Grade --

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Likewise, Remington Arms Co. called their "standard" grip a half pistol grip.

I don't know of any American gun manufacturer that catalogued a "Prince of Wales" grip, just straight, half or full pistol grip. Parker Bros. had a variation of their half-pistol grip that swelled at the bottom and collectors today refer to it as a "ball grip".

I think only British makers offered a "Prince of Wales" grip. In the load of repros of English gun catalogues Cote' once sent me, some of them show it capped and some rounded grip for what they called a "Prince of Wales" Grip. I've always felt the capped full pistol grips on the Ithaca Gun Co. Flues Model doubles looked a lot like the "Prince of Wales" grips with caps in the English catalogues.

The American grip looks longer and more slender than the POW grip which appears to be shorter and stubby .

I noticed on a Bakers I seen the grip on it also looked identical to the Fox and Remington . I wasnt sure on the terminology of the grip profile .
What would the full grip look like ? I assume its the ones with more pronounced curvature of the grip area .

Dave Noreen
02-27-2020, 12:41 AM
Here are a couple of HE-Grade Super-Fox guns with full pistol grips --

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chris dawe
02-27-2020, 07:40 AM
With Supers commanding good money as of late, I think people have no issue spending the money on them.

I too have another Super in the works right now. With much nicer wood than this one. It was custom stocked by someone else previously with a piece that should have never been put on the gun. Cross grain in the wrist. After it breaking TWICE in less than 8 years, it was time to replace it again.
The owner did not care about fancy wood, but I am trying to match the forend that is on the gun which is still good.

Funny how it comes in waves isn't it ?,great job

Richard Flanders
02-27-2020, 08:56 AM
Nice job Brian! Love the grain through the wrist. Couldn't be better. Perfect pc of wood for that gun.

Frank Srebro
02-27-2020, 09:01 AM
Another Super-Fox; here's a detail of its full pistol grip and factory logo cap.

Brian Dudley
02-27-2020, 10:21 AM
Another Super-Fox, with detail of its full pistol grip and factory logo cap.

Frank. What is the serial on that gun you pictured?

Frank Srebro
02-27-2020, 03:02 PM
Frank. What is the serial on that gun you pictured?

Brian, it's probably the one you're currently doing that had been restocked in the past using nice looking but questionable wood. Your description sounds about right. 310xx. I'll send you a PM with the complete number and more details. frank

Brian Dudley
02-27-2020, 04:14 PM
Yes, it is. I recognized the grip oddly enough. And I matched the figure in the wood to the photo.

Dave Noreen
02-27-2020, 09:11 PM
Most of the original HE-Grade Super-Fox guns with full pistol grips I have examined have a smooth grip cap, but I've seen some with the logo grip cap that appear original too.

Frank Srebro
02-28-2020, 07:34 AM
Another Super-Fox ordered with full pistol grip and furnished with a Fox logo cap. S/n 300xx.

Robert Brooks
02-28-2020, 07:41 PM
my HE had the logo cap also. Bobby

Kenny Graft
02-29-2020, 03:37 PM
Bryan...Did you use a clear coat poly finish? Looks glossy....good for wet weather! Fitment looks perfect! SXS ohio

Brian Dudley
02-29-2020, 03:55 PM
You confuse me with someone else whose parents did not know how to spell Brian.

The finish is timberluxe.

Poly finishes belong nowhere near a vintage double. Period.

Dean Romig
02-29-2020, 04:09 PM
Very nice Brian - I'm working toward a similar finish using Timberluxe on a nice little Trojan 20 I bought recently from Russ Jackson.






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