Any Idea As To How Old These Are?

[Mike Stahle]

Pick this box up at a local gun show for $10.00

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[Leighton Stallones]

Mid 50's or earlier from my experience

[Richard Flanders]

Mike.... those are dangerous old loads designed for damascus barrels only; that's a typo on the box that says to not shoot them in damascus bbls....... you better sendem to me immediately....:rolleyes:

[Austin W Hogan]

I think I may have posted these before. This is 20 ga version was purchased in the late 1950's. My best friend and neighbor was a real heavy load man. He had a Browning Auto 5 Magnum and a Browning 20 to match. These loads required a special buffer ring in the Browning to prevent the bolt from over returning. If he forgot to change rings the Browning became a single shot using heavy 1 oz 20 ga loads.

Best, Austin

[Mike Stahle]

Got an answer to the age question on another forum.
They were made week 6 in 1946.

Next question, what exactly is maximum load?

[Bruce Day]

Max load is SAAMI maximum for the gauge and chamber length. You'd have to go to the SAAMI specifications to find it, its probably around 11,500psi, but that's just my memory. Its not proof, its the maximum service load, which is a theoretical limit determined by proof minus 20%. And to be clear, proof is not rupture either, typically one can double proof before rupture.

[Bill Murphy]

That box is a 3 3/4 dram equivalent load which was advertised at 1330 fps.

[Norm Growden]

I grabbed a couple just like that (largest shot charge I could find on short notice) last week when the coyotes were yipping around the house. Didn't get a shot, but would such a load do much damage to a coyote?

[Dean Romig]

Even if the coyote didn't die right off his packmates would be sure he did in pretty short order. Yes, they'll happily eat one of their own.... even before he's dead.

In answer to your question - it depends on the range and the shot size you're using.

[Phillip Carr]

The answer is yes, #4 will do the trick. I regularly carry a Burnham Bros mouth call in the truck. When the quail shooting slows down, and the dogs need a rest, I will call coyotes. Found a good use for those duck loads. Most are shot at around 20 yards, although some will be a lot closer depending on the cover. Coyotes do a number on the deer and Antelope fawns in sothern Arizona. Regularly we will call in more then two at a time.


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[Norm Growden]

4s, just like Mike posted. I hope to give a review of their performance on coyotes sometime.

[Dean Romig]

Now that's the only good coyote!

[Bill Murphy]

Use a tight choke and pull both barrels at the same time. That is the procedure I used when I had a fox on a duck bait at too long a yardage not long ago. Twice the shot makes a bit of a difference. At about 50 yards, the double shot load made the difference. I have used the same strategy on groundhogs, which should not normally be dispatched with a shotgun.

[Mark Landskov]

Mike, you got that box for a song, especially with the condition of the shells as they are! You would be surprised how high the bidding can go on Gun Broker for a box like that. The box has been around for 64 years and should look great on display with your guns! I have been collecting off and on for 40 years and recently started procuring Eley-Kynoch boxes. I am not sure how far I will get, due to current prices. I also collect single shotshells of the paper variety. That is a line that has thousands of variations to look for. Cheers!

[Mike Stahle]

Mike, you got that box for a song, especially with the condition of the shells as they are! You would be surprised how high the bidding can go on Gun Broker for a box like that. The box has been around for 64 years and should look great on display with your guns! I have been collecting off and on for 40 years and recently started procuring Eley-Kynoch boxes. I am not sure how far I will get, due to current prices. I also collect single shotshells of the paper variety. That is a line that has thousands of variations to look for. Cheers!

This box of shells is going on a shelf for looking at in my man room :)