Curious and Learning

[Gary Laudermilch]

I noticed this gun listed on GI that has a round knob pistol grip stock. I assume this is a modification to the original but I have learned to never say never. So, is it original? I have never seen one before.

https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-for-sale-online/shotguns/parker-shotguns-reproduction/parker-reproduction-dhe-20-gauge-shotgun-40-inventory-10230-41-.cfm?gun_id=101222451

[Dean Romig]

Drop points are wrong - It is not an original Repro stock.





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[Ken Hill]

Gary,

I don't know. However, the drop points look too full or round compared to other repro DHEs. It may be the way the picture was taken. The gun looks nice with the round knob.

Ken

[Greg Baehman]

I'm leaning with Dean's opinion that this Repro has been restocked.

However, and as we say "never say never", you may recall our previous discussions here in the forum regarding the upgrading that Greene's Guns had done to several Repros that included changing pistol-gripped guns to half pistol grip (round knob). These Greene-altered Repros also included alterations that the linked gun doesn't have -- such as bone charcoal case coloring, removing the Parker Reproduction and Made in Japan stampings, rebluing the barrels, changing splinter forend shape to Meriden-like, adding mullered borders to the checkering, changing the game scene engravings, hand chasing the scroll engraving and applying an oil finish.

[Brian Dudley]

FYI, the wrist of this stock has been broken through and repaired.

[Bill Murphy]

Lightweight description unless more is given with a phone call.

[edgarspencer]

Drop points are wrong - It is not an original Repro stock.

While I agree it does not appear to be a stock supplied original to a Parker Reproduction, I think the drop points are very ‘English’ in style, and rather than say they are wrong, it might be better to say they differ from ‘original Repro’
(That seems like a contradiction in terms)
Honestly, I like the grip treatment very much, and while Dean won’t give the stock maker credit for his drop points, I would certainly give him credit for an otherwise nice job.

[Dean Romig]

I think it was Russ Jackson who had an original Parker DHE (I believe) 28 ga. with those "English" drop points and that gun letters that way. I have never seen or heard of another Parker with those drop points and I suspect a Repro featuring those "English" drop points and made in Kodensha, Japan would certainly have been a 1 of 1 and only made by pre-paid special order.

How's that Edgar?





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[edgarspencer]

made in Kenosha, Japan
How's that Edgar?

Huh?
did you mean Kodensha?

[Bill Murphy]

No, Kenosha. You know, the cheese place.

[Dean Romig]

Right Bill Wisconsin - the cheese place.

Again and again I stand corrected. Well, it’s good entertainment anyhow.


But I stand unwavering to my point.


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[Gary Laudermilch]

Thanks gents. I have no interest in purchasing but I do like the grip treatment. Adds a bit of class.

[edgarspencer]

But I stand unwavering to my point..

Which point is that? The one about the WRONG Drop points, The one about it not being a Parker Reproduction stock, or Kenosha (Subsequently changed to Kodensha)?

Drop Points? They aren't Wrong, they're just wrong on a Parker, repro or otherwise.

Not a Parker Reproduction stock? Nobody argued with you on that.

Kenosha, Kodensha, Kubota? There's the cheese place, but as you changed it to Kodensha, that probably wasn't the unwavering point. City? I don't think there is any Japanese city which ends in '...sha'. Olin Kodensha was Winchester's plant but not in a town called as such.
Unwaver on, on sumpin.

[Dean Romig]

Which point is that? The one about the WRONG Drop points, The one about it not being a Parker Reproduction stock, or Kenosha (Subsequently changed to Kodensha)?

Drop Points? They aren't Wrong, they're just wrong on a Parker, repro or otherwise.

Not a Parker Reproduction stock? Nobody argued with you on that.

Kenosha, Kodensha, Kubota? There's the cheese place, but as you changed it to Kodensha, that probably wasn't the unwavering point. City? I don't think there is any Japanese city which ends in '...sha'. Olin Kodensha was Winchester's plant but not in a town called as such.
Unwaver on, on sumpin.




PM sent.... No, change that to Text sent.

Oh, and by the way, you have such a propensity for accuracy and a head for detail I can't understand why you don't offer to take the editor's job....





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[edgarspencer]

PM sent.... No, change that to Text sent.

Oh, and by the way, you have such a propensity for accuracy and a head for detail I can't understand why you don't offer to take the editor's job....

To the Text, I wholeheartedly agree.
As to your offer to relieve you, I'd prefer you speak to my Attorney, Geo. Purtill, Esq.

[Bill Murphy]

I heard a rumor that Edgar has volunteered to take the editor's job in his spare time. At this time he is negotiating his salary.

[Dean Romig]

Now that’s funny stuff!!





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[Robin Lewis]

I heard a rumor that Edgar has volunteered to take the editor's job in his spare time. At this time he is negotiating his salary.From Edgar's post, it sounds like he is being challenged by George for the position and is trying to talk George out of it? I think either one would do a fine job.

[edgarspencer]

I heard a rumor that Edgar has volunteered to take the editor's job in his spare time. At this time he is negotiating his salary.
I hear dead people
Now that’s funny stuff!!
In a sick sort of way
From Edgar's post, it sounds like he is being challenged by George for the position and is trying to talk George out of it? I think either one would do a fine job.
There goes your credibility. Actually, I made a fleeting stab at talking George into the job. Reaction, as predicted.

[Dean Romig]

So far, unfortunately, I have received about the same response from others.
Three were kind enough to ask that I send them the “Responsibilities of the Editor of Parker Pages” but no takers yet.

Shoot me a PM with your email address... or shoot me an email requesting me to send it and I will.

Best, Dean




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[Jay Gardner]

No oval in the stock. Wood looks like Repro wood but it would appear to be a replacement stock. Also, screw in the trigger guard is not properly timed and buggered, and the wood to metal fit around the trigger guard is not crisp.

[Bill Murphy]

The "JOB" seems to be more than a one man operation. I think we have found our two applicants, George and Edgar.

[Gerry Addison]

I've never seen one like this so I'd have to say it is after market but well done. I have to ask Brian how he knows the gun is broken at the wrist? I've looked carefully at the supplied pictures and can't see anything that would suggest there is a break.

[Brian Dudley]

Because, the party who repaired it had before and after photos posted on one of their sites.

It was broken clean in half at the rear of the tang. It is a very good repair. A little disturbing that the seller does not disclose it.