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Mark Ray
05-06-2019, 03:59 PM
Quite an unusual Parker! I cant imagine the knot in the stock made the team!
https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-for-sale-online/shotguns/parker-shotguns/one-of-a-kind-special-ordered-parker-dhe-pigeon-gun.cfm?gun_id=101222213
Reggie Bishop
05-06-2019, 04:00 PM
No drop points either on the stock.
Brian Dudley
05-06-2019, 04:30 PM
The stock on this gun is not original for sure.
The engraving is a complete head scratcher. There is very little about it that looks typical for Parkers. The scroll work, the prominent use of stippling and the shading cuts. The closest to this that came from Parker was the engraving that was done on SC single trap guns. But even that is very different from this gun.
I am not saying that it is not factory right, but it is VERY out of the ordinary, especially for that grade of gun. I would be really curious about what a letter may say about the gun.
The flat rib solid rib is a rare feature as well, they are out there, but not many of them.
Bill Murphy
05-06-2019, 05:27 PM
Yup, the stock is not original, but if the flat rib is present on both sets of barrels, the gun is one rare pigeon gun and well worth the price. A serial number and a letter if the gun was made in the "order book" era, and the gun may turn out to be a bargain for big gun and pigeon gun collectors. I recently moved into a house where I couldn't see Chuck's property from my upper deck like I could from the old house. I may save some money now.
edgarspencer
05-06-2019, 06:11 PM
I can not say I've ever seen that engraving from any of the known men who worked at, or for Parker. Yes, a real head scratcher for certain. Bill, you know him well enough. Call and get us the story, I would be very disapointed if it turned out to be finished by someone else, though that wouldn't take away from it's appeal.
edgarspencer
05-06-2019, 07:50 PM
Am I the only one who thinks the engraving on the trigger bow looks almost like a monogram?
Mark Ray
05-06-2019, 08:33 PM
Am I the only one who thinks the engraving on the trigger bow looks almost like a monogram?
I thought the same thing!
Randy G Roberts
05-06-2019, 08:38 PM
That engraving may be Parker but it is going to be a tough sell without something (letter) to back it up. Even if it is Parker it does not speak to me at all. I would much rather have traditional D engraving over that style, just my opinion. Concerning the lack of drop points, has anyone ever seen a hammerless D grade or above that did not have drop points ?
Dean Romig
05-06-2019, 09:36 PM
This gun is definitely an enigma. It almost looks like a "put together" gun with a flat rib, a 'custom' stock (of sorts) which may or may not be original to the gun. The checkering says "Remington" to me and the engraving says “novice” too. I wonder if it didn't start out as a VHE project gun for apprentices in each department....
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Rich Anderson
05-07-2019, 07:43 AM
. Concerning the lack of drop points, has anyone ever seen a hammerless D grade or above that did not have drop points ?
Last year at the Southern I sold a 32inch straight grip DHE flat rib live bird gun that lettered and had no drop points.
Randy G Roberts
05-07-2019, 07:48 AM
Last year at the Southern I sold a 32inch straight grip DHE flat rib live bird gun that lettered and had no drop points.
Was the elimination of drop points referenced in the letter Rich ? Thanks !
Rich Anderson
05-07-2019, 07:51 AM
I believe it was Randy. Everything about the gun matched the letter, stock dimensions, and that it was ordered with a silvers pad. I gave the letter to the buyer.
Randy G Roberts
05-07-2019, 08:21 AM
I believe it was Randy. Everything about the gun matched the letter, stock dimensions, and that it was ordered with a silvers pad. I gave the letter to the buyer.
Thanks for the info Rich. I am looking at photos of one now that is lacking drop points, the stock is numbered to the gun. More to follow on that one I hope.
Brian Dudley
05-07-2019, 10:12 AM
Was the elimination of drop points referenced in the letter Rich ? Thanks !
The lack of drop points are not the only thing about this stock that tells us it is not original to the gun. There are many things about it that tell us that.
Randy G Roberts
05-07-2019, 10:27 AM
The lack of drop points are not the only thing about this stock that tells us it is not original to the gun. There are many things about it that tell us that.
I am aware of this. My original question was intended to focus solely on the absence of drop points on any Parker they would normally be present on just to see if any members had encountered this previously on a gun that was correct.
Richard Flanders
05-07-2019, 11:27 AM
S C S monogram on the trigger guard maybe??
Mike Franzen
05-08-2019, 01:00 AM
I like the gun and the engraving. But, I tend to like the oddball stuff. I noticed on both sides of the frame the screws are timed out of time.
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