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Justin Julian
05-06-2019, 09:53 AM
In the category of "what are they thinking?!!!", I emailed this reputable GB seller and pointed out that selling a Damascus gun with 12 thousandths barrel wall thickness was essentially like selling a shoulder mounted pipe bomb. Their response was that they aren't worried because their policy is that all used guns need to be inspected by the buyer's gunsmith before firing. Wow! And the item description strongly implies that it is all original and never messed with....riiiiight. That's really taking the concept of "Buyer Beware" to a whole new level.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/810636946

Mark Ray
05-06-2019, 11:21 AM
That is all fine and good.....except as far as I can see there is no such admonishment in their ad about having the gun inspected by a competent gunsmith.

Drew Hause
05-06-2019, 11:28 AM
The barrels are 3 Iron "British Best"

http://pic20.picturetrail.com:80/VOL1373/6511424/24519472/414208147.jpg

And a lovely "mirror bore" - how do ya' think that happened in a > 130 year old gun? :(

http://pic20.picturetrail.com:80/VOL1373/6511424/24519472/414208148.jpg

Mark Ray
05-06-2019, 11:30 AM
A "mirror bore with light pitting " means it WAS a dusky bore with heavy pitting.

Mills Morrison
05-06-2019, 11:59 AM
Pass!

edgarspencer
05-06-2019, 12:46 PM
It is Not Nitro proofed.

Jay Oliver
05-06-2019, 01:12 PM
I like how they rate the browning at 44%...trending toward a lovely, frosted-blue patina in light

Brian Dudley
05-06-2019, 02:13 PM
You have to WATCH OUT for this sellers (Commonwealth Arsenal) return policy too!

If you return the gun, a refund is based on IF they resell the gun or not. And you getting ALL of your money back is based on IF they can sell the gun for the same amount or more. If not, your refund is based on the resell price.

They do always post a LOT of pictures, so cosmetic condition usually cannot be in question. BUT... barrel condition and bores can be another story...

Bill Murphy
05-06-2019, 05:38 PM
Strange dealer, not far from my home, but not somewhere that I visit. Some of their Parkers are questionable.

Jerry VanHorn
05-07-2019, 08:55 AM
I had a couple questions about a Parker O frame they had a couple years ago. SN stated 28" barrels. They said the barrels had been "shortened" but would not give me the measurement. I asked again..and they banned me from bidding. Just tried..and I'm still banned !

Dean Romig
05-07-2019, 09:01 AM
In order to practice the “buyer beware” motto we need to know the name of this seller.





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Daniel Carter
05-07-2019, 09:09 AM
Dean post # 8 has the sellers name.

Mills Morrison
05-07-2019, 09:32 AM
Will remember to avoid them

edgarspencer
05-07-2019, 02:00 PM
In order to practice the “buyer beware” motto we need to know the name of this seller.
Did you not click the link in the first post?

Dean Romig
05-07-2019, 02:55 PM
I only looked at the gun. Where I am not a potential buyer, the rest of the ad was unimportant to me.





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Rick Losey
05-07-2019, 03:56 PM
buyer beware is right

BUT

buyer be informed may be more appropriate -

the seller does state the minimum wall thickness, most don't - he just doesn't tell you its dangerous, IMHO anyone buying old guns should know what they are seeing

edgarspencer
05-07-2019, 05:46 PM
the seller does state the minimum wall thickness, most don't - he just doesn't tell you its dangerous

Nor does he tell you where that measurement was taken. I would never have even considered this a possibility, but on a recent trip to Cabass Pro Shop, I asked (silly me, right?) the Gun Library salesperson if he knew the barrel wall thickness. He went through the fanciest maneuver, took one of the GH (2 bbl set) barrels out and put his digital caliper onto the muzzle and told me there was plenty of "Meat". I couldn't disagree, that last half inch of barrel was very safe.

Justin Julian
05-08-2019, 09:16 AM
My issue with their policy of "It is up to the buyer to have the gun checked by a gunsmith for safety", is that its very misleading. That policy suggests that this gun COULD be unsafe to fire. In this case they know darn well that this gun absolutely IS unsafe to fire. So essentially, they are looking for a buyer who doesn't know the difference, and when his face or hands get blown off, that will be his problem, so the logic goes. Well, my 30 years as an attorney tells me differently....some sellers just seem eager to get sued.

Brian Dudley
05-08-2019, 09:18 AM
No... eager to make a sale.

Rich Anderson
05-08-2019, 02:16 PM
For some the Golden Rule seems to have been changed to On my honor I'll do my best to help myself and screw the rest.

What goes around comes around and karma is a bitch.

Rick Losey
05-08-2019, 02:59 PM
For some the Golden Rule seems to have been changed to On my honor I'll do my best to help myself and screw the rest.

What goes around comes around and karma is a bitch.

i thought that (pre modification) is the scout oath

the new golden rules is do unto others and then split