Parker 216945 10 ga PHE Ejectors

[Vance Cain]

According to my Research Letter, this firearm is supposed to be equipped with ejectors. It appears to me, that 90% of the ejector parts in the foreend iron are missing. The gun functions as it has only extractors. Can anyone shed any light on this and/or tell me someone or some place that can fix or repair the issue? I'm pretty new to Parker shotguns and was just beginning to get a feel for how to properly restore the wood finish when I discovered this issue.
Finally figured out how to add pictures (with help from my wife)!
Thanks,
Vance Cain
(620) 330-0307

[Mills Morrison]

You might post some pictures so we can better diagnose the issue. Sounds like a pretty desirable gun, despite the issues

[Dean Romig]

Send it to Del Grego in Illion, NY





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[Vance Cain]

Del Grego says "It would probably be cost prohibitive, since the last one he did in the 1980's was over $3000. Thanks, anyway! Vance

[Dean Romig]

Just to fit the missing guts and time them?????? :shock:


Keep looking....





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[allen newell]

Perhaps Lawrence didn't want the project.

[Vance Cain]

I think you may be correct. He suggested I try to find a splinter foreend for parts.

[Mills Morrison]

I agree with Allen. Not sure who else is good with ejectors

[Vance Cain]

If I could find something to use for parts, or the parts themselves, I know of a couple of competent people I would trust to do the job. It shouldn't be too hard to switch the fore arm iron parts out and adjust the timing as necessary, assuming nothing else pops up. However, maybe I'm being a little too naive.

[Dean Romig]

However, maybe I'm being a little too naive.


I think so Vance.

Ejector installations and adjustments on a Parker shouldn't be left to someone inexperienced with them.





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[Vance Cain]

Do you think Turnbull could find parts and do it, or would they be cost prohibitive?
Thanks,
Vance

[Dean Romig]

You might do better to find an orphaned ejector forend. Regardless of frame size, the ejector parts are all the same size.

A 10 Gauge PHE is a rare and possibly valuable Parker. Does it have Twist Steel barrels or Parker Steel barrels?





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[Brian Dudley]

I could supply most if not all of the parts for the forend, but you would not get away for less than $500 for everything. I can tell you that right off the bat. But that is just me. That is a lot of high dollar parts.

[Vance Cain]

Parker 216945 10 gauge was made in 1926, #3 frame and has Parker Steel barrels. The gun is pretty clean and tight. The wood has no cracks or dings, beautiful contrasting dark patterns, but was cover by several layers of old varnish. I am in the process of stripping and refinishing it with a "French Polish". The blued barrels are about 98% with 2 small dings (or pits), not noticeable without looking closely for them, and the bores shiney. The breech is silver colored (little to no case colors left) showing a little wear at the light engraving around the edges and screws. The DH butt plate is clean but shows a little wear at the top. The person that sold it to me was a coon hunter in New Jersey and frequently used it. I have about $1500 in it to date and wouldn't mind spending some money to get it proper, assuming I don't get upside down in value. Thank you very much for your help thus far!

[Mills Morrison]

Show us some pictures. Sounds like you got a beauty.

[Vance Cain]

Mr. Dudley,
Sold! How do we proceed?

Vance
(620) 330-0307

[Vance Cain]

I'm kind of green at this forum thing, how do I do that?
Vance

[Dean Romig]

Vance at $1500 in it so far you are waaaaay ahead of the game with that rare Parker.

But proceed very slowly and get solid advice on how you plan to ‘pretty up’ your PHE.

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Parker 216945 10 gauge was made in 1926, #3 frame and has Parker Steel barrels. The gun is pretty clean and tight. The wood has no cracks or dings, beautiful contrasting dark patterns, but was cover by several layers of old varnish. I am in the process of stripping and refinishing it with a "French Polish". The blued barrels are about 98% with 2 small dings (or pits), not noticeable without looking closely for them, and the bores shiney. The breech is silver colored (little to no case colors left) showing a little wear at the light engraving around the edges and screws. The DH butt plate is clean but shows a little wear at the top. The person that sold it to me was a coon hunter in New Jersey and frequently used it. I have about $1500 in it to date and wouldn't mind spending some money to get it proper, assuming I don't get upside down in value. Thank you very much for your help thus far!

[Vance Cain]

Thank you! I also think I will be alright on value, based on what I've seen!
I will proceed slowly and listen very closely to you. Past experience has taught me that sometimes when you think your improving the value of an item, you are actually hurting it.

[Dean Romig]

There are many others here who can give better advice than me on how to proceed. I simply urge caution.




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[Patrick Lien]

THIS THREAD NEEDS PICTURES!!!

PML

[Vance Cain]

Parker 216945 10 gauge PHE, in the process of being cleaned up for a "French Polish". Finally, figured out how to post some pics (with some help from my wife).

[Brian Dudley]

You may be able to confirm this or not, but it looks from one photo that the ejector kickers (parts that actually contact the shells) have been fused together to operate as one. In which case, simply putting the parts back in the forend will not get the gun working properly again.

IF they are still separate and independant from each other, then there is reasonable hope that the gun can be put right again. If they are fused, then that complicates things a lot and it greatly increased the work/cost that would have to be put into the gun.

Given the overall conditon of things, it may be best to leave it as is.

[Vance Cain]

They are separate and operate independently.
Vance
P.S. I sent an email to you this morning.