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Mike Koneski
03-08-2019, 05:06 PM
Senate Bill Would Reclassify Antique Firearms

Senate Bill Would Reclassify Antique Firearms:
U.S. Sen. Bill Cassidy (R-La.) wants to make something new about old guns. He introduced S. 443, a bill that would modify the definition of antique firearms and how they’re regulated. Currently, all firearms made before 1899 are classified “antiques” and are unregulated. Sen. Cassidy wants to strike that date and change to 100 years old for non-NFA firearms. That would make any firearm made in 1919 exempt from regulation, if the bill got signed into law this year.

Rick Losey
03-08-2019, 05:24 PM
will never pass a democrat controlled house

fact not politics

Craig Larter
03-08-2019, 05:33 PM
Mike that is great but the current law is "in or before 1898 manufacturer" so my reading is 1897 or before not before 1899.
and the ammunition for the firearm is no longer manufactured in the
United States and is not readily available in the ordinary channels of commercial trade.
I know many consider a Parker made in 1987 or before as an antique but if the ammunition (shotgun shells) are avalaible is it an antique per the NFA and the ATF??

Bill Murphy
03-08-2019, 05:57 PM
Craig, "in or before 1898" includes December 31, 1898 and earlier. The truth of the matter is that C&R includes a bunch of modern guns and we shouldn't rock the boat about antiques or C&R could be taken away from us. C&R is a gift to law abiding collectors that most polititians have no clue about.

Dean Romig
03-08-2019, 06:23 PM
Further - semi-automatic actions were manufactured before 1919 but to the best of my knowledge, not earlier than 12/31/1898... and we all know who refers to all of those actions as "automatics".




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Craig Larter
03-08-2019, 06:29 PM
So what you guys are saying is a 1898 manufactured Parker 10ga is an antique according to the National Firearms Act and the ATF?? Even though ammunition is available in commercial channels.

Patrick Lien
03-08-2019, 06:50 PM
So what you guys are saying is a 1898 manufactured Parker 10ga is an antique according to the National Firearms Act and the ATF?? Even though ammunition is available in commercial channels.

Yep!

Mills Morrison
03-08-2019, 06:53 PM
Generally good news

I'll be happy when they lift the 8 gauge ban. Since we are renegotiating treaties. . . .

Craig Larter
03-08-2019, 07:01 PM
Now I know why I became a manufacturing executive and not a lawyer. I can't read English written in Washington DC. Why don't they say a firearm manufactured before December 31,1898 is not considered a firearm under the NFA. Even a dummy like me could figure that out.

John Davis
03-09-2019, 07:01 AM
Then you wouldn't have to hire a lawyer to interpret it for you. It's called "The Attorney's Job Act."

Paul Ehlers
03-09-2019, 10:20 AM
Craig, "in or before 1898" includes December 31, 1898 and earlier. The truth of the matter is that C&R includes a bunch of modern guns and we shouldn't rock the boat about antiques or C&R could be taken away from us. C&R is a gift to law abiding collectors that most polititians have no clue about.

I couldn't have said this better myself.

Getting a C & R is one of the best things I've done. I really like the fact that Parkers & Foxes are specifically listed as C & R qualified guns. The C & R is especially helpful when you live in a state with universal background checks which require every gun sale to go through an FFL transfer & background check.

I'm just hoping the grabbers in Washington don't wake-up about the C & R and take it away from us.

John Campbell
03-09-2019, 10:40 AM
I'm just hoping the grabbers in Washington don't wake-up about the C & R and take it away from us.

Sorry about the politics. But there are two things standing in the way of all this:

Gary Carmichael Sr
03-13-2019, 12:15 PM
Pass a law then read whats in it, no politics just facts, Gary