Quail guns

[Mills Morrison]

28 gauge

20 gauge

16 gauge on 0 frame

Quail habitat

[Rich Anderson]

Mills you forgot the 410"s :) Nice looking cover, reminds me of Morrison Pines.
Quail guns are like grouse guns the perfect one is the next one:whistle:

[Mills Morrison]

One of these days I will probably get a 410. The thing is, you can get another 28 for less money and 28's are the top.

The cover is a lot like Morrison Pines. It is a lot thicker and you have to work to get to the birds.

[Rich Anderson]

I like the thick stuff reminds me of grouse hunting. A 28 hammer gun is the best for quail.

[Reggie Bishop]

The .410 doesn't really interest me, but the 28 is one of my favorite Parkers!

[Mills Morrison]

410 is the only one of the major gauges I don't have now, so will have to get it at some point.

Agree about 28's Reggie.

[Rich Anderson]

I wouldn't be without my 28's a VHE straight grip skeet, an up grade A1 special 2 barrel set and the W.R. Pape hammer gun. I must confess to a fondness for the Fox FE 410 however:eek:

[Mills Morrison]

Julia has a Marlin fake LC Smith 410 that has actually been a good gun for her. She was deadly with quail with that gun. She has lost interest in it now

A Remington GHE 410 would be perfect, but need to save up big time.

[Harry Collins]

Hell! Tom Mix couldn't hit anything with a .410.

[Phil Yearout]

Those are nice! Here are a couple that would work also...

Fox A grade 20ga...

https://i.imgur.com/hXk6vXDl.jpg

and Fox Sterlingworth 20ga...

https://i.imgur.com/OeMoHRil.jpg

[Mills Morrison]

Very nice! Let's see what others have too

[Jay Gardner]

Mills;

Love those old 16’s. Yours appears to have many stories to tell. Care to share the details?

JDG

[Mills Morrison]

Well, I have owned it a week as of today. The first shot with it took a quail. It is well used but works fine as is.

88,000 sn range. Research letter has been ordered and it may turn up more info

[charlie cleveland]

all my quail guns have turned into squirl guns no birds around here....i have a d grade 20 ga damascus barrels a 20 ga v grade with factory 27 inch barrels and a 20 ga g grade with vulcan grade barrels 26 inch cly bore ...killed a few birds in kansas with cavlvin humbergwith that gun....thanks for that hunt calvin.....charlie

[Gary Laudermilch]

Not a small bore but I sure would not hesitate to use it on quail with light loads. It is a 12 ga P with twist barrels on a 1 frame with factory 26" barrels. At 6lb 10oz it is a light weight and as fast handling as lightning. The opposite end of the quail gun spectrum.

[Mark Ray]

Linder Daly Diamond grade 20, 24” bbls
London 28 back action hammer gun, 28”bbls
Raick Freres Belgium 20, 26”bbls

[Kenny Graft]

First tow pictures are of my XE-16 29" barrels rooster hunting in Kansas, 28" barrels with P.A. woodcock. Two pictures of my DE-410, Two pictures of my DE-28 These three guns can do the work! SXS ohio

[Rich Anderson]

Here are just a few:whistle: What makes a good quail gun also makes for a good grouse gun :)

CHE 20
A1S upgrade 28
Fox FE 410
H&H 20
Purdey light game gun. A 6.25 lb 12 but with RST 2" 3/4oz loads it's a dream to carry and shoot. An up and coming favorite

[Eric Eis]

cancelled

[Eric Eis]

Here are just a few:whistle: What makes a good quail gun also makes for a good grouse gun :)

CHE 20
A1S upgrade 28
Fox FE 410
H&H 20
Purdey light game gun. A 6.25 lb 12 but with RST 2" 3/4oz loads it's a dream to carry and shoot. An up and coming favorite

I think the order goes.....

Holland and Holland, Parker CE, Fox and then the short 2" Purdey :rotf::rotf:
Guess you have too many guns !

[Rich Anderson]

i have no idea how the pics got turned around.:whistle:

[Mills Morrison]

He clearly has more guns than he knows what to do with and should consider passing some on to more needy upland hunters

[Rich Anderson]

What do you want Mills, I'll fix you up, remember Other Peoples Money gets you guns today for money tomorrow:whistle:

[Mills Morrison]

What I really want is the GHE 410 and GHE 28 together on GI right now. Need to see if someone will take a family member I don't like . . .

[Rich Anderson]

In my opinion (there's 2 cents wasted) the CSM Fox is a better value than the Parker in 410:whistle:

[James L. Martin]

nice gold work on those Foxes ,any idea who engraved them?

[Mark Ray]

couple more.....
DeHaan Custom .410
W.R. Pape 16

In a few months I will present my Parker Quail Gun Project....It will be a custom VH 00 frame 28, with 24" factory parker barrels and straight stock.. weighing in at a svelte 4lbs 14 oz

[Rich Anderson]

My Fox was engraved by Richard Roy.

[Harold Lee Pickens]

This was definitely some old Quail Hunters gun. Ordered into Atlanta Georgia and 1905. 26 inch barrel choke cylinder and mod. It weighs 6 pounds on the nose. No Quail round here but it works just fine on pheasant and grouse, oh yeah, DHE 16 O frame

[Mills Morrison]

Very nice Harold! You don't see many Parkers shipped to the South. I have one shipped to Virginia

[Mark Ray]

I just picked up the 26” vh 20, 1909, shipped to South Carolina, choked cyl.and mod.
Dave Wolf performed his majicon the wrist and forend...there were 19 compound fractures in the wrist, and the forearm broken in half....no evidence of the trauma after Dave was through with it, Briley then removed 7 dents, and a dozen pellet dings, rejointed the gun, and it is ready for another 100 years...

[Mills Morrison]

I just picked up the 26” vh 20, 1909, shipped to South Carolina, choked cyl.and mod.
Dave Wolf performed his majicon the wrist and forend...there were 19 compound fractures in the wrist, and the forearm broken in half....no evidence of the trauma after Dave was through with it, Briley then removed 7 dents, and a dozen pellet dings, rejointed the gun, and it is ready for another 100 years...

Wow! Excellent. Photos?

[Gerald McPherson]

Harold; You need to send that Bird Gun back down here where it belongs. That's as good as it gets for Georgia thickets. I have hunted with many gun in my time following bird dogs. This brings to mind the worst I ever tried to shoot quail with a Browning Superposed Lightning. Just did not work for me. The best for me is a VH 12ga 26in.

[Garry L Gordon]

My kind of thread -- quail guns! Gosh, there have been some beauties posted here so far. Here are some of my better-at-hitting-those-brown-bombshell guns that brought me luck this past season. All of these guns have drops that suit my shooting, even if the LOPs vary somewhat. They are light, because we walk a lot between chances on our wild Midwestern Bobs.

1. A Cogswell and Harrison 16 bore. This old gun has beautiful Damascus barrels of 30 inches, choked a bit tight, but will reach out and get that second bird (or, if you're like me, the second shot after you miss with the first one). It weighs under 6 lbs. and is stocked to shoot high (my way of shooting).

2. An 1890 Dickson trigger-plate round action 12 bore. OK, not a small bore, but I shoot very light loads (7/8 oz) out of this gun that weighs 6 lbs. 3 oz. with a 15" LOP and 29 inch original Damascus barrels (and open chokes). It also has high stock dimensions.

3. A CSC Fox XE 16 gauge. 29 inch barrels choked cylinder and .012" This gun weighs 5 pounds 13 oz. Custom stocked to my measurements, it shoots where I look...if I don't get too excited and mount it too quickly (which is often the case).

4. The best darn quail gun I've ever shot -- a DHE 20 bore with 30 inch barrels choked to shoot 55%/65%...and also high. It has a large wrist, and the beefier nose to the stock. Once I became accustomed to it, my other guns feel a bit odd in the hand.

5. This gun -- a DHE 00 frame 28 gauge -- has yet to be blooded. I'm waiting for just the right time and place (and to start missing with the DHE 20!) It has 26 inch barrels and a 2 1/2" DH, again, the way I like them.

[Reggie Bishop]

That 28 gauge sure is a nice one!

[Mark Ray]

Wow! Excellent. Photos?

working on that....have been busy with lots of family stuff...but it sure looks cute in the cabinet! The big mistake I made was not taking any "before" pics, because I honestly thought the gun was un reparable. it has really nice original high dimensions...and I think I will be able to shoot it well....definitely bringing it to shoot 20 hammerless at the southern.,

[Rich Anderson]

Here are a couple more quail/grouse guns. They are GHE Damascus 20 26 inch bbls IC/M, VHE 20ga skeet gun, Gunner's gun (this ones great for everything:))
VHE 28 with 28 inch bbls choked skt in/skt out and W.R. Pape 28 hammer gun 28 inch bbls IC/M.

[Mills Morrison]

:shock::shock::shock::shock::shock::shock::shock:: shock:


Wow!

[Ken Hill]

Here's a couple of quail/pheasant guns. I stick to the ubiquitous 12 gauge. I mostly hunt pheasant in KS and consider quail as a bonus bird.

1. Dickson RA from 1898; weighs about 6 lbs 4oz. Of course you need a Gordon to go along on the hunt.
http://parkerguns.org/forums/picture.php?albumid=893&pictureid=11729

2. A 12 gauge lighter than a typical 20 gauge at 5 lbs 8 oz. It works fine on pheasant or quail. A 2" H&H.
http://parkerguns.org/forums/picture.php?albumid=893&pictureid=11730

Ken

[Garry L Gordon]

[QUOTE=Ken Hill, Of course you need a Gordon to go along on the hunt.


Ken[/QUOTE]

So true!

[Garry L Gordon]

Here are a couple more quail/grouse guns. They are GHE Damascus 20 26 inch bbls IC/M, VHE 20ga skeet gun, Gunner's gun (this ones great for everything:))
VHE 28 with 28 inch bbls choked skt in/skt out and W.R. Pape 28 hammer gun 28 inch bbls IC/M.

I need a bib...I’m drooling on myself!! :)

[Harold Lee Pickens]

Mills, my DHE 16 was shipped to Anderson Hdw. in Atlanta, and the stock oval is enscribed Jos. Gray, Atlanta , Ga--I'm bettin it was his quail gun.
Mark, I have a VH 20 with 26" cyl/mod barrels also--6 lbs even also.

[Rich Anderson]

The Brits had something with their 2 inch 12's. A 28ga load in a 12ga package it's just about as perfect as can be.

If I had to pick just one or two guns for all my upland gunning the meat gun would be right behind Gunner's Gun. I don't have any pictures of it but it's a DHE 20, straight grip with 26 inch bbls choked cyl/IC. Some day it will make the trip to Georgia.

[Kenny Graft]

The 28 gauge was built in 1997 engraved by Richard Roy, The 410 is of that same time period also Engraved by the Master...The gold setter is lifelike! Roys birds look like they could fly away. My special order XE-16 was by luck engraved by Richard Roy in 2015 a last minute change by the maker ...(-: I am thankful to own this trio of modern Fox guns. If I ever get to hunt Quail on one of those fancy southern plantations, all three will get their turn! So much hunting....so little time!!!



This is a fun thread and I thank all who have posted, great off season fun. I have added some pictures you may also enjoy....SXS Ohio

1 My young wife made me a pheasant pot pie...Kansas wild roosters...(-:

2 Truth about setters!

3 Forgot what I loaded...

4 Parker Reproduction 28ga 28" Local bird clean up

5 Picture of the stock...this is a three barrel set 410,28,28 PG-DT-BTF

[Kenny Graft]

Oh ya....picture 3 2018 I just finished cleaning the rooster gun and took this shot of ruby sleeping after the hunt in Kansas. Its always about the dogs! She just had her 8th birthday Feb-5th 2019 She has hunted Kansas 7 falls of her life, we missed going to Kansas 2013 due to the 3-4 year drought that killed everything that grows by then, it was bad!. But in 2014 things started to get better and by this past season all was back to normal for the most part. We did see more Quail this past season than any other to date. SXS Ohio and Ruby the spoiled rottin Gordon setter from Wisconsin! (-:

[Mills Morrison]

Very nice Kenny

[Bob Jurewicz]

Parker VH 16 GA 0 Frame 28" Factory Cyl/Mod and just touches 6 lbs.
My favorite Texas Quail gun.

[Reggie Bishop]

I have 3 Parker guns that would fit in the quail gun category.

https://i.imgur.com/czeJbgy.jpg

[james whittington]

My two favorites for most upland work,Fox 20 ga and Parker VH 16 on an 0 frame.

[Gary Carmichael Sr]

Wonderful thread keep them photos cpming, Gary

[Rich Anderson]

This would make for a nice quail gun. Fox A grade 16 with an original straight grips and 26 inch barrels IC/M

[Eric Eis]

Well it's not a Parker (but a few Parkers were traded for them) But they are my favorites. The engraving is like a painting coming alive. And I loved hunting them down a Morrison Pines. 28 ga 5lbs 6 oz's I think.

[Daryl Corona]

Boy oh boy, them eyetalians sure make some nice scatter guns.:)

[Eric Eis]

Boy oh boy, them eyetalians sure make some nice scatter guns.:)

Daryl, They are English..H&H Royal Deluxe

[Daryl Corona]

Duh... I knew that. I think we shot them at Drake last year. Just bustin' ya'.:eek:

We will be shooting a few 28 ga. rounds so make sure they are lubed and ready.

[Eric Eis]

Duh... I knew that. I think we shot them at Drake last year. Just bustin' ya'.:eek:

We will be shooting a few 28 ga. rounds so make sure they are lubed and ready.

I figured that :rolleyes: and they will be coming to Drakes, can't wait to get out of this weather too......

[Rich Anderson]

This is a future quail gun for me, a J. Venables & Son 16ga with 30 inch barrels choked none and none as it was produced before choke was invented. The shells pictured are 2 inch roll crimp paper with 3/4 oz of 7 1/2.

J. Venables was located in Oxford from 1846 to about 1900.

[Mills Morrison]

Very nice! Michael McIntosh had a Purdey back action that looked like that gun and I always thought it was cool

[Rich Anderson]

I have a Stephan Grant back action that I have taken To Morrison Pines. I'd like to find an open choked 20. I have a Boss but it's pretty tightly choked. Quail are the only birds I hunt using a hammer gun.

[Mark Ray]

Wow, VERY similar to my London Paton 16, also with open chokes, non rebounding hammers....I love shooting this gun!

[Dean Romig]

A gorgeous gun Mark!





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[Mark Ray]

Thanks Dean,

I particularly enjoy shooting Jones Underlevers, IMHO they are terrifically ergonomic. Especially when walking and reloading. Ths gun also has 30” tubes, and weighs a touch over 6lbs.

[Dave Noreen]

This 1913 vintage Ansley H. Fox A-Grade is my usual pick when Quail are the intended game --

70129

but this 1938 vintage A-Grade could also be called upon --

70130

Both of my Parker Bros. 20-gauges are way too tightly choked. The 2-frame is too heavy as well. Haven't yet gotten the chokes hogged out on the 0-frame.

[Mills Morrison]

I used my new 28 gauge that is supposed to be mod and full this weekend and it did surprisingly well. The misses were all my fault and not the gun.

You just never know how a particular gun will perform. My experience, at least

[Harold Lee Pickens]

I used my Fox A 16 28" IC/M to take a quail Sunday at a preserve hunt over Kenny Graft's
Gordon, Ruby.

[Tom Flanigan]

One of my favorite guail and grouse guns is a 20 bore GH, shipped in 1903 to South Carolina. With cylinder (a few points of constriction) and modified 26" barrels, it was obviously purchased for quail hunting.

[Mills Morrison]

Tom, my GH began as a 20 and was shipped to Virginia in 1903 as well. I bet it was a quail gun too

[Kenny Graft]

Not the best views but...that's what I got...SXS Ohio

[John Davis]

GH 20 gauge, 26 inch barrels, IM/Full.

[Reggie Bishop]

John that is a strange looking quail? Georgia quail? :rotf:

[Eric Eis]

One of my favorite guail and grouse guns is a 20 bore GH, shipped in 1903 to South Carolina. With cylinder (a few points of constriction) and modified 26" barrels, it was obviously purchased for quail hunting.

Oh, I was suppose to be looking at the gun.....:shock: Beautiful setter, yes the gun is nice but the setter was what caught my eye :)

[John Davis]

John that is a strange looking quail? Georgia quail? :rotf:

Those are "Mud Quail."

[charlie cleveland]

i found another quail gun in the corner its a 12 gauge remington 1894 model b grade ordance steel barrels with ejectors and 26 inch factory barrels that weighs in at 6 3/4 lbs...a dove gun for sure i have taken many dove with it....probaly a quail gun in her time.....charlie

[Mike McKinney]

John, What are “mud quail”, I’ve never seen one of those boogers? Maybe snipe or rail?

[Mills Morrison]

Probably woodcock which is a new favorite sport of mine

[John Davis]

Those are snipe. Perhaps the most fun of all game birds. Don't knock it till to try it.

[Mills Morrison]

Snipe was my favorite game bird for years until they became non existent around here.

[Mike McKinney]

No knock on my part, I just wasn’t sure.

[Mark Ray]

John that is a strange looking quail? Georgia quail? :rotf:

Pinnochio Quail!!

[John Davis]

Mike, no knock taken. Was just speaking in general terms.

[Mark Ray]

Pinnochio Quail!!

The birds with the half grip Parker 12 were taken using 28 gauge chamber mates.

[George Davis]

Mills,
Southern gentlemen like yourself should only hunt bobwhite with a 16 gauge. I believe in the old south (glory days of the southern plantations) it was the gauge of choice. It was those miss guided northerners which confessed the idea of proper gauge for bobwhite. So I encourage you and your Georgia roots to stay the course.

[Mills Morrison]

16, 20 and 28 are the only gauges I use on quail. Some places frown on 16s and it is ridiculous

[Mills Morrison]

The above may be revisited when I get a 1/2 frame

[Dean Romig]

Bein' a No'thener who shoots a 28 gauge for the formidable trickster, the ruffed grouse, and the long-billed dodger, the woodcock, I can't figure why the Southe'n boys would need to club their little gent'men bob-white speedsters with such a massive load??





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[John Dallas]

I wanted to take an original vent-ribbed M42 skeet gun to Bray's Island, and was told "break guns only" Grrr!

[Garry L Gordon]

16, 20 and 28 are the only gauges I use on quail. Some places frown on 16s and it is ridiculous

Some folks are born with frowns! I once (note, once) hunted with a young guy who berated me for shooting a 16 because it was "bigger" than his 20. He was shooting 3 inch 1 oz. shells, and I was using 2 1/2" 7/8 oz light loads. He also said my double was not as "humane" as his autoloader because he had an extra shot in case he winged a bird. It takes all kinds. At the end of our hunt, he left me with a bag of 20 gauge hulls to load for him. I never did reload his shells, nor did he ever hunt over my dogs again.

So much for frowns...

[Dean Romig]

I wanted to take an original vent-ribbed M42 skeet gun to Bray's Island, and was told "break guns only" Grrr!


If you want the definition of 'shooting snob' just refer to that silly rule. It can't be about safety if the action is open...





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[Garry L Gordon]

Bein' a No'thener who shoots a 28 gauge for the formidable trickster, the ruffed grouse, and the long-billed dodger, the woodcock, I can't figure why the Southe'n boys would need to club their little gent'men bob-white speedsters with such a massive load??
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Spoken just like a d___n Yankee, for sure. :) No doubt you carry shells in a carpet bag, too. (I guess I should hide my 28s before I say this, eh?)

[Dean Romig]

:biglaugh: Well said Garry... very well said!





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[Daryl Corona]

Well , living below the Mason-Dixon line I'm technically a southerner. That being said I've killed a boatload of quail here on Maryland's eastern shore (when we had boatloads of quail) with nothing larger than a 20 ga. and more often than not a 28. Never had the desire to shoot a 12 or a 16. But if you do, that's ok. Just use a good dog.

[Mills Morrison]

Bein' a No'thener who shoots a 28 gauge for the formidable trickster, the ruffed grouse, and the long-billed dodger, the woodcock, I can't figure why the Southe'n boys would need to club their little gent'men bob-white speedsters with such a massive load??






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Will probably get some 2 inch RST shells if I do the 1/2 frame

[Phil Yearout]

Well, I live in 12ga-auto-loader-with-the-plug-out-and-3"-mags-if'n-yer-gun'll-take-em' country, and I typically carry a 16ga side by side which, I've been told, is "a pretty nice gun for a girl". So, 20/28, 20/16, 16/12, 12/10, meeny/miney...:)

[Tom Flanigan]

Mills,
Southern gentlemen like yourself should only hunt bobwhite with a 16 gauge. I believe in the old south (glory days of the southern plantations) it was the gauge of choice. It was those miss guided northerners which confessed the idea of proper gauge for bobwhite. So I encourage you and your Georgia roots to stay the course.

Those are fighting words Scott. As a Yankee, I will admit that we abused the South by invading during the war and sending carpet baggers after, but the correct gauge for quail was not part of the agreement at Appomattox. You guys got to keep your horses and decide for yourselves what to shoot at quail. Further, sir, there are damn few Yankees that don’t think the ultimate upland gun is a 16 bore shooting an ounce of shot. We might use our 20’s and 28’s for grouse but we never tried to force them down the throats of our unfortunate Southern counterparts. Your ungenerous comments are off the mark Scott. Obviously, you still harbor hard feelings about getting trounced by Yankees in the war.

[Mills Morrison]

Whoa:shock:

[Mills Morrison]

Who hijacked my thread and stopped the pictures from coming? More pictures.

[Tom Flanigan]

Who hijacked my thread and stopped the pictures from coming? More pictures.

Sorry Mills. We Yankee's are a proud race and we find it hard to let pass unfortunate comments by Southerners. Below is what I considered to be my most effective grouse gun. It's a graded Smith 16 bore that I used for years shooting an ounce of #9's. I eventually sold it because it wasn't a Parker.

[Mills Morrison]

You know I'm kidding but keep the photos coming

[Tom Flanigan]

You know I'm kidding but keep the photos coming


For those who don't know me, I enjoy baiting Southerners and going head to head and toe to toe with them. All in fun of course.

These pictures are for you Mills. I know you like Brittanies. The best grouse dog I ever owned was a Brittany named Rusty. He was a two year old finished dog my grandfather bought for me when I was 14 years old. I've owned three Brittanies but switched to English setters because I thought them to be traditional and a bit more stylish on point. But I'll never forget Rusty. These pictures bring back great memories. Rusty and I were inseparable. I used to take him on dates.

[John Davis]

After a day of guiding my great nephew to one of life's great pleasures. I introduced his mother to the wonders of chasing Mr. Bob and now it's his turn.

[Rich Anderson]

While traipsing through the wire grass at Morrison Pines I picked up an empty shell, it was a 3 inch 20 with 1 1/4oz of #4

I haven't used anything bigger than a 20 for quail. Admittedly I take the Purdey light game gun but the 2 inch RST are equivalent to a 28 or 20 with 3/4 oz loads. I also enjoy the 410 but it is a Fox double no repeaters:nono:

If were going to count 16's as quail guns I'll post a couple. :rolleyes:

[John Davis]

If you're talking pen raised birds, a 20 gauge is the max. Wild birds are a little different story. And when I'm running the dogs off horse back then it's usually my 16 gauge NID, primarily because she's a bit of beater and the scabbard will pretty quickly ware the bluing off the barrels.

[Rich Anderson]

A 16ga quail gun. AH Fox A grade, factory straight grip, 26 inch barrels choked IC/M. In all honesty I'm considering some 16's for quail and will look into a flat of RST 2 1/2 shells and a 3/4 oz of shot. Should make for a great woodcock load as well.

[Garry L Gordon]

A 16ga quail gun. AH Fox A grade, factory straight grip, 26 inch barrels choked IC/M. In all honesty I'm considering some 16's for quail and will look into a flat of RST 2 1/2 shells and a 3/4 oz of shot. Should make for a great woodcock load as well.

That sure looks like a fine quail gun to me!

[Harold Lee Pickens]

Here's one for you Mills. A sweet little VH 20 with 26" cyl/M barrels weighing an even 6 pounds. A great cofiguration for Quail.
Also shown with its little step-sister a VHE 20, quite used and abused.

[Harold Lee Pickens]

And just so Dr. Bob doesnt get lonely, a Lefever Durstan Special 20 ga.
with ejectors, 26' IC/M weighing under 6 lbs.

[Mills Morrison]

Both look good

That Lefever is nice too

[Corey Barrette]

VHE 20 and Webley & Scott 28 do the trick. Apologize for the photo orientation.