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Harry Collins
02-10-2019, 10:08 AM
I'm trying to find the value of this Parker for an Estate. It has Remington repair codes. The barrels have been reblued and the receiver, etc. have Cyanide Case Colors in hidden areas. Those colors show on the forend and under the top lever. The stock has been broken and repaired. Though an honest attempt the repair left the wood proud to the receiver. There was a dent in the right barrel that has been removed. The barrels are Mod and Full as best as I could determine with calipers and show shiny bores for the most part. 14 1/4" LOP, 1 7/8" DAC, 2 1/2" DAH.
Thanks All, Harry
Boy, do I want this gun.

Harry Collins
02-10-2019, 10:13 AM
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Reggie Bishop
02-10-2019, 10:21 AM
Long barreled straight stock 20s are special but this one is needy, which makes the value very subjective. Wish I could help.

Harry Collins
02-10-2019, 10:21 AM
Warts:

Daryl Corona
02-10-2019, 11:34 AM
I don't know about value Harry but to me the gun is worth between 2-2.5K if I had the chance to buy it especially if the barrels are sound and the chokes are original. Go for it man, if not let me know.

Bill Murphy
02-10-2019, 11:43 AM
Is the receiver blued or just tarnished? I agree with Daryl on the price. Unfortunately, you have to allow for further wood work in your pricing. The pin in the cheeks needs to be removed and reset. At the same time, the cheeks should be milled and veneered and the stock refinished. Think $500 to $1000. Shoot it like it is and the stock will break at the cheeks if not the original break area. What is on the butt? Are you sure the dents don't need to be rerepaired? Good luck, my friend.

Eric Eis
02-10-2019, 01:00 PM
I agree with Daryl and Bill on value but I would be more in the 2,000 area. As Bill pointed out the stock has to be addressed and those are not Remington colors and can't really see if the receiver is blued or what.

Mills Morrison
02-10-2019, 01:04 PM
Whatever is paid, budget in some more to get it right.

allen newell
02-10-2019, 01:18 PM
My rough estimate would take you closer yo $2K to fully restore this gun. Still worth the in e
Investment in my lowly opinion.

Harry Collins
02-10-2019, 03:05 PM
Here is another picture. I'll ask permission to see if I can remove the rust on the gun. I was going to use 3in1 oil, 0000 steel wool and light pressure. Any other thoughts on removing rust?

Patrick Lien
02-10-2019, 03:09 PM
My advise would be to turn and run away as quickly as possible. I say this while I am looking at the half dozen "wart hogs" sitting over in the corner of my man room that I have accumulated over the years. I was going to SAVE everyone of them and that was the justification I used when I was romancing it in my mind. If I had the money I put into my warthogs in my pocket today, I could just go buy a really nice 20 gauge GHE and enjoy it. Take Murphy's advice on value, he is the king of wart hogs and knows what they are worth. I think the guy's telling you the gun is worth 2k are doing you a disservice. Just one bottom feeders opinion.

Cheers
PML

Eric Eis
02-10-2019, 03:10 PM
Harry I don't like steel wool, use the pad Dean uses that I have used with great results, just can't remember the name, Frontier pad, something like that with oil. It won't hurt the finish on the steel

allen newell
02-10-2019, 03:37 PM
Frontier pad with Rem oil

keavin nelson
02-10-2019, 05:21 PM
Or, Scotch brite pads, they are SS, I think similiar to Frontier

edgarspencer
02-10-2019, 07:49 PM
Buy all the Frontier pads you want at $6 each, or buy six of these for less. Absolutely the same pad.
https://www.amazon.com/Stainless-Scrubbing-Scouring-scrubber-Kitchens/dp/B07CTHPJYK/ref=sr_1_7?crid=1HSC4RR9BO37T&keywords=stainless+steel+scrubbing+pads&qid=1549845957&s=gateway&sprefix=stainless+steel+scrubbing+pads%2Caps%2C459&sr=8-7

Harry Collins
02-11-2019, 04:09 PM
Thanks Edgar. I ordered this morning and should have the pads by Wednesday. In the mean time I've been loosening up the rust with Kroil and a toothbrush. I hadn't realized the amount of rust on the barrels and rib. A little nasty looking.

Ronald Moore
02-11-2019, 05:03 PM
Receiver looks blued to me, maybe barrels were hot blued too, stock needs a lot of work to make it safe to shoot, barrel dents were not done correctly, would cost at least 2500 to do it right, would be a nice gun then, but you would be upside down for a long time, probable forever. I wish it was in better shape, but it is what it is a money pit.

Ron Moore

Steve Huffman
02-11-2019, 05:06 PM
Guys I bought some of what Edgar is talking about and it scratched a sxs and a rifle I was using it on and I Know for sure they were original and not reblued . It is a thicker pad as the frontier are softer and not as sharp in my mind . Just my 2 cents .

Ronald Moore
02-11-2019, 05:16 PM
Not in book, no info on gun to see what letter is, still a nice one to have if it was fixed completely, I re read first post, barrels are reblued hope rib is tite, looks like weep hole drilled on underside of rib, probable a hot reblue, not good by any means

Bob Brown
02-11-2019, 07:48 PM
According to their website the Frontier pads are a proprietary alloy of stainless steel, nickel silver, monel (a corrosion resistant nickel based alloy), and zinc that is harder than rust but softer than bluing. I just received an order for a dozen pads and they do seem different than a straight stainless steel pad. Probably not worth removing bluing or scratching the metal just to save a couple of bucks.

https://www.big45metalcleaner.com/

edgarspencer
02-12-2019, 07:56 AM
According to their website the Frontier pads are a proprietary alloy of stainless steel, nickel silver, monel (a corrosion resistant nickel based alloy), and zinc that is harder than rust but softer than bluing.

Sure sounds like that (*)was written by an advertising guy and not a metallurgist.
I've used plenty of 'their' pads, which they purchase and repackage, and have enough experience, both of metallurgy, and using them, to know they are one and the same.
Any ham-fisted attack will scratch, not matter what you're using, and if you don't pre-soak rust in kerosene first, well, you get what you deserve.

* An alloy, proprietary or not, is not made of other 'alloys,(that's what we called 'sweepalloy) it's made with elements. Stainless Steel, by nature, is way down the brinell scale from carbon steel, but the more nickel, the harder.

George Stanton
02-12-2019, 08:29 AM
Edgar is absolutely right. I buy stainless scrubbers at the grocery, two for two dollars. They are the exact same thing as the rebranded pads labeled Frontier.

Daniel Carter
02-12-2019, 09:33 AM
Bought a frontier pad (works great) and saw the ones in grocery store, bought those. Rub a frontier pad on your arm and no abrasion same with store pad. Put both in a solution of salt water, no corrosion. Use on a piece of soft wood, same result, I have to agree with Edgar.

Dean Romig
02-12-2019, 09:55 AM
I think I'll just continue buying (as needed) and using the Frontier Pads. Not because I doubt what others are saying about the supermarket scrubbing pads, but because I have used Frontier Pads for more than a decade and have come to trust that they
do no harm to any finished metal surface of a gun. I guess I'm just an "old dog" and don't take well to "new tricks.".... No offense Edgar :corn:





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Steve Huffman
02-12-2019, 11:11 AM
Edgar,
I did not use a " ham -fisted attack" I know better , use what you want.