Identifying the 20 gauge hammer guns

[Gary Carmichael Sr]

How many members have a 20gauge hammer gun, I am trying to put together a list of the known 20 ga Hammer guns about 50 in all I think , that counts dollar grade and graded guns, lifter and top lever, If you do not want to show the serial number, just say if it is a lifter or top lever the following is what have been identified as being found. Gary
1- 17448
2- 10165
3- 15936
4- 60291
5- 45852
6- 4634
7- 15838
8- 161467
9-6999
10- 171718

[Dean Romig]

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[edgarspencer]

5410, 15837 (those are in the serialization book, but we know how far off that can be)

[Wayne Owens]

132430

[Gary Carmichael Sr]

Well that's 13 maybe some more out there, Will be interesting to see how many of these survived. Gary

[CraigThompson]

Was the smallest hammer frame they made size 0 ?

[Paul D Narlesky]

A pretty rough gun but it is complete. I will probably get .410 inserts and be able to hunt with it.
It does have character ! Best,Paul
Oh wanted to add frame has beautiful lightening cuts milled in it. 0 frame

[Dean Romig]

108762 - The "Chicken Coop Gun"

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[Dean Romig]

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[edgarspencer]

Was the smallest hammer frame they made size 0 ?

Smallest 20s were 00 framed lifters

http://parkerguns.org/forums/showthread.php?t=26215&page=3

start with post #25 for 20ga. discussion

[Dean Romig]

At the time these early twenty-gauge lifters were produced, the “00-frame” had not been identified as one of the frame sizes although the firing spacing we associate with the 00-frame size was being approximated on these tiny guns.





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[Gary Carmichael Sr]

Interesting that in 2010 Austin had a little twenty gauge that I was thinking about purchasing from him and we corresponded several times on said gun #17448 I am sure it is alright to use the ser# since it was sent to me along with the Parker letter. The interesting thing was the letter he sent me describing the gun he said " The gun is one of two so far found with the little 00 exposed hammer frame, 29/32 firing pin spacing on center" and is the latest s/n so far found with the cross slide for end attachment. A lot of info's surfaced since then on twenty ga hammer guns. I miss the conversation with Mr Hogan he was a true gentleman, Gary

[Gary Carmichael Sr]

Dean you are right about the spacing, on another note I wonder if these little guns were made with women folk in mind, Parker made so few of them over a period of about 40 years approximately 15 lifters and 35 or so top lever guns. The 0 grade guns are rare in good condition shootable I mean, Gary

[Dean Romig]

Dean you are right about the spacing, on another note I wonder if these little guns were made with women folk in mind, Parker made so few of them over a period of about 40 years approximately 15 lifters and 35 or so top lever guns. The 0 grade guns are rare in good condition shootable I mean, Gary


Not sure about that Gary - maybe youngsters or even adult bunny hunters... The one Austin had he called a "rabbit gun" because of the more than four inches of drop on a straight-grip stock. I held that one and was amazed anyone would actually want to shoot it at anything.... but the game had better be on the ground!:eek:

Is it still in your collection Gary?





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[Jay Gardner]

This thread would be a lot cooler if there were pictures. ;-)

[Dean Romig]

I think I can add a few pictures of the rabbit gun of Austin's that I believe was featured in Parker Pages. Don't have time right now as I'm trying to finish the Spring Issue of Parker Pages.





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[Gary Carmichael Sr]

Maybe I can find some, Gary

[Gary Carmichael Sr]

couple

[Gary Carmichael Sr]

double click for enlargements

[Gary Carmichael Sr]

more

[Gary Carmichael Sr]

couple more this evening, gary

[CraigThompson]

I bet that’s a lively little gun in one’s hands !

[Gary Carmichael Sr]

couple more

[Gary Carmichael Sr]

the file is large and I will post one or two at a time, gary

[Dean Romig]

Gary, does the one with the Laminated barrels have the P stamped on the right barrel flat?





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[Gary Carmichael Sr]

couple more

[Gary Carmichael Sr]

more

[Gary Carmichael Sr]

only one more

[Gary Carmichael Sr]

Dean , yes, gary

[Gary Carmichael Sr]

I will try to get the grade 2 photos soon, Gary

[Gary Carmichael Sr]

double click to really see the engraving, Gary

[Gary Carmichael Sr]

here are a couple more showing engraving etc

[Gary Carmichael Sr]

Last one would not shoot these shells in this gun but made for a good prop, gary

[charlie cleveland]

great looking pictures of a super little gun....charlie

[Gary Carmichael Sr]

I took these photos they are not very good, and the laminated barrels are stamped with P

[Gary Carmichael Sr]

two more

[Jay Gardner]

couple more

Speechless.

[Matthew Hanson]

I gotta get a third job.....

[Gary Carmichael Sr]

You probably will not believe this but I traded a grade 6 10 gauge for the little 0 grade 20, could not find one in decent shape till this one, sometimes money does not have to change hands, have done several trades over the years, Just so you know the letter said the little 0 grade was sent back to have a set of Vulcan 28 ga barrels fitted to the gun so there you have it Parker made a 28 ga Vulcan barreled hammer gun, Gary

[Dean H Hanson]

16348. Trust me, pictures will make you sad. Parker and the crew at Bachelder's will be up for this incredible challenge I trust. Appears to be 00 frame equivalent , lightening cuts, missing 4" of barrels, rest is there. I'm all in. Quick thanks to Opening Day, true mentor and inspiration. I hope you shoot MY hammer 20, in few years. My favorite part so far, the short arm release lever on the forearm. I'll keep ya posted.... in 2021 :)

[Dean Romig]

You probably will not believe this but I traded a grade 6 10 gauge for the little 0 grade 20, could not find one in decent shape till this one, sometimes money does not have to change hands, have done several trades over the years, Just so you know the letter said the little 0 grade was sent back to have a set of Vulcan 28 ga barrels fitted to the gun so there you have it Parker made a 28 ga Vulcan barreled hammer gun, Gary


Gary, is it a lifter or a T/A ??





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[Gary Carmichael Sr]

Top Action Dean fish tail lever, gary

[Rich Anderson]

Oh the envy, the envy :bowdown: The two Parkers I'll probably never own are a 20ga hammer gun and a nice 410:corn:

[Gary Carmichael Sr]

Don't ever say never! gary

[Paul D Narlesky]

I as many before me shot a .410 double by Stevens as a kid. I have wanted a Parker .410 for a long time even a repro would be fine...The prices of ones for sale have driven me back from purchase. As for the Reproduction guns, limited as my experience has been, guns I have seen pictures of, the two barrels have a pretty good gap on them at the muzzle. First am I correct on this ? Second do original Parker guns have this gap at the muzzle also ? Visually that gap is not pretty or refined but may be necessary because of those narrow tubes can some one show a picture of the muzzle of an original Parker .410 ? Thanks very much & Best, Paul

[Rich Anderson]

The muzzles won't touch on a 410. My Fox has quite a bit of space between the barrels but it shoots where I point it.

[James Brown]

Mr. Hawes: 1928 original VHE .410

[Paul D Narlesky]

That is just what I needed to see. The gap on your original gun is much smaller than the one I saw on the reproduction gun (that was awhile back) You have a great little gun. Best,Paul

[Dean Romig]

Virtually all of the original production Parker .410's muzzles touched.





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[James Brown]

If you enlarge the pictures a little you will see the barrels touch. Jbrown