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Larry Stauch
01-06-2019, 03:43 PM
I was lucky enough to run across this A grade with 32 inch barrels.
It appears to be all original. Nice shooting old gun.
I almost forgot the most unusual feature on this gun; the left tube is a #2 and the right tube is a #3 weight!
See the photo.
Daryl Corona
01-06-2019, 03:58 PM
Nice Larry. Can you see the barrel weight stamps on the barrels?
Larry Stauch
01-06-2019, 04:56 PM
I almost forgot the most unusual feature on this gun; the left tube is a #2 and the right tube is a #3 weight!
See the photo.
Patrick Lien
01-06-2019, 05:59 PM
Larry,
Why are those weights unusual? The only thing I know about fox guns is you can sell them to fox nuts and buy more Parker’s. So I am hoping to learn something with my question.
Patrick
Bill Murphy
01-07-2019, 05:48 AM
Patrick, most Fox guns, if marked, are the same on both sides.
Frank Srebro
01-07-2019, 10:08 AM
For a given barrel length there's typically about a 4 ounce difference in struck weight (mass) between a set of 2 and 3 wt. barrels in 12-gauge It's possible the 2 stamped tube on this Fox was heavily struck to make it closer to 3 wt. profile/mass. Or the barrel assembler wasn't paying attention, etc.
tom leshinsky
01-07-2019, 01:38 PM
to me it looks like the 2s were reversed when stamped
Steve Cambria
01-10-2019, 09:55 AM
I concur with "CHE." Me thinks that gun was stamped the morning after the AHFGC annual Christmas party blowout at Buffalo Wild Wings!!
BTW,nice, honest Fox!
Brian Dudley
01-10-2019, 07:12 PM
Maybe it was the day after the forst Wing Bowl in Philly.
Tom Kidd
01-11-2019, 10:05 AM
CHE's thoughts got my interest peaked, so I have been playing with the photo. If one blows up the number stamps(the photo has enough resolution) and plays with the photo via a Photoshop type program they will see that it is indeed a '2' and a '3' stamp. I have been fooling with these Fox Guns for quite some time and don't believe I have ever have never seen/handled a set of bbls with two different weight stamps?? And that is exactly what this 32" A Grade has! Just an aside; Fox did build a fair number of #4 weight 32" bbl'ed guns. Remember they were designed by and built by shooters, not business men, and that has resulted in subtle differences! One thing I have learned the hard way is; never say never, or someone will surely present proof that will result in yet another of life's Ahhhhh Shit Moments.
Remember these smoke-poles were, for the most part, hand built and unfortunately people make mistakes, at least I do. I stand in awe of the people who profess to rarely making mistakes. My life time average must be somewhere around 1 per hour, luckily most are minor ones. Maybe they are a bit senile, forgetful, or just a bit reckless with the truth??
No argument as to the build quality of Parker vs Fox Guns, and I do spend a LOT of time shooting one of my Parker 28s and my Parker double trap gun. But, I would like to put a short coupled, well balanced 'lively' Fox Gun in the nay say'ers hands for a day out in the covers. No, I am not senile(at least not yet) and am not offering to ship any Fox Guns anywhere; I am just saying!(although I did leave a rather famous Becker out with a friend in the Mississippi Flyway for most of last year) Catch me out shooting sometime and anyone is welcome to give the comparison a try.
All the Best during the New Year, Regards, Tom (Now to hide from the flack!)
Daryl Corona
01-11-2019, 05:12 PM
No flack from here Tom. I'll admit I was a Parker snob for many years and still love the guns from Meriden but the 20 gauge Foxes as well as many of the 12's I have are in a class by themselves. From my 32/12 B PAC gun to my all time favorite my 30" 20 SW they are in a class all by themselves as far as handling. I just wish I had jumped on the Fox train much earlier.
Mark Beasland
01-13-2019, 10:47 AM
It would be interesting to compare the barrel wall thickness of the tubes.
Larry Stauch
01-13-2019, 10:58 AM
It would be interesting to compare the barrel wall thickness of the tubes.
I have thought of that, but unfortunately I do not have the equipment to do it.
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