View Full Version : I pulled a Mills today !
CraigThompson
01-02-2019, 11:41 PM
I was watching a somewhat abused Grade 2 12 gauge top lever on GB today and I ended up buying it . Shortly thereafter I made a guy an offer on another on GB and low and behold I got that one as well . Both 30” both on #2 frames both Grade 2’s . The first one will need a bit of work the second one hopefully not so much .
Mills Morrison
01-03-2019, 08:05 AM
Good job!
Randy G Roberts
01-03-2019, 08:09 AM
That's the correct method of ringing in the new year. :cheers:
Mills Morrison
01-03-2019, 09:35 AM
I think I know the two as well. That one with the stock repair sure has beautiful wood, if not for the repair. Maybe someone can undo the repair. The other one looks like a fine gun and I bet will look better than the pictures when you get it.
Mark Ray
01-03-2019, 12:01 PM
almost popped on the one with the wrist repair...because of the wood, and the half pistol......About the best 0 grade Parker wood ive seen!
CraigThompson
01-03-2019, 12:32 PM
almost popped on the one with the wrist repair...because of the wood, and the half pistol......About the best 0 grade Parker wood ive seen!
While the repair was done a long time ago I’m quite curious to see the serial number that’s stamped in the wood under the trigger guard because I’m not 100% confident that the woods original . The guns represented as a Grade 2 . The engraving what you can see of it in the pics seems correct , but even for a Grade 2 the wood is highly figured .
Mills Morrison
01-03-2019, 01:06 PM
Grade 2 wood can vary from plain to quite good, but that is the highest quality I have ever seen on one. People who have been in the field longer than I have might have seen better. I wonder what the records say and if upgraded wood might have been specially ordered?
CraigThompson
01-03-2019, 05:12 PM
Grade 2 wood can vary from plain to quite good, but that is the highest quality I have ever seen on one. People who have been in the field longer than I have might have seen better. I wonder what the records say and if upgraded wood might have been specially ordered?
Generally if the number is stamped under the guard I’m satisfied , but this one even if the number in the wood is correct I may spend the $42 .
Mills Morrison
01-03-2019, 06:22 PM
I got a letter on my recent 4 frame and it was ordered by Carlos Gove, famous gun maker from Colorado. Was apparently the only Parker he ordered so probably his personal gun.
Gary Carmichael Sr
01-04-2019, 09:49 AM
Now is the time to buy that Parker you always wanted! buying and selling Parker guns is cyclical like every thing else! Gary
CraigThompson
01-04-2019, 02:04 PM
Now is the time to buy that Parker you always wanted! buying and selling Parker guns is cyclical like every thing else! Gary
I wish wish wish I had bought the Parker Grade 0 top lever 10 gauge two barrel set you had here for sale a year or two ago .
CraigThompson
01-07-2019, 03:35 PM
My indescretion knows no bounds at the moment it seems . Number three for 2019 was struck upon today . Seems I’ve acquired a circa 1886 Grade 0 12 gauge on a 2 frame with 28” barrels . Gun also has the fishtail lever which unto itself is no big deal but I also think it’s the first hammer gun I’ve gotten with the fish tail lever .
CraigThompson
01-08-2019, 10:00 AM
Well the one with the uh “repaired” stock showed up . Amazingly the number stamped in the stock matches the rest .
CraigThompson
01-08-2019, 10:02 AM
Glad this was the original wood . I can live with an honest repair but replaced wood I don’t care for .
Phil Yearout
01-08-2019, 10:20 AM
Wow! That is some wood!
CraigThompson
01-08-2019, 11:13 AM
With the BoreMaster I got 12 points constriction in the right and 15 in the left .
Mills Morrison
01-08-2019, 11:20 AM
Must have been a grouse gun.
CraigThompson
01-08-2019, 11:51 AM
Must have been a grouse gun.
The people it came from are in PA so that's a distinct possibility !
Dean Romig
01-08-2019, 12:07 PM
Nice Grade 2. And with a pheasant, (or more likely a sharptail as pheasants probably weren't legal game at the time this one was made.) on the frame. We usually see the Parker woodcock in that vignette, even on a 10 gauge. That must have been a really beautiful gun when it was new. Nice score Craig!
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charlie cleveland
01-08-2019, 06:10 PM
i like the stock repair.....great gun....charlie
Mills Morrison
01-08-2019, 06:53 PM
Get that screw replaced and you should be in business
Dean Romig
01-08-2019, 08:48 PM
i like the stock repair.....great gun....charlie
It almost matches your 8 gauge Charlie ;)
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CraigThompson
01-08-2019, 10:33 PM
Get that screw replaced and you should be in business
Already shot it half dozen times . The hammer screw doesn’t bother me as much as the lever retainer , sometimes the lever doesn’t want to stay to the right when open . Tried my light 12 #8 handloads and the hammers on each side are okay under recoil . Then tried my 0 buck handloads on paper at 25 and 45 yards .
CraigThompson
01-08-2019, 11:23 PM
45 yards with the right barrel wasn’t worth posting . I do not understand why sometimes the pics turn side ways ?
charlie cleveland
01-09-2019, 06:00 PM
dean you are right i believe the same fellow worked on these two guns....the old 8 gauge is still shooting and staying together.....i like those patterns i would take a shot at a deer at 45 yards with them....i see him on the ground after that last shot....charlie
wayne goerres
01-09-2019, 09:01 PM
Defiantly the same (Gunsmith).
Mills Morrison
01-10-2019, 09:43 AM
Say all you want about Charlie's 8 gauge, but Charlie single handedly put it in shooting condition.
Dean Romig
01-10-2019, 09:50 AM
Mills, are you saying you never shot it while it was under your custodianship?
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Mills Morrison
01-10-2019, 09:53 AM
I took it to a respected gunsmith who declared it beyond repair. Charlie had expressed interest in it, so I pm'ed him and sold it to him that night. Not two weeks later, he had it repaired enough to shoot it. Not a small feat
CraigThompson
01-10-2019, 11:04 AM
I've been throwing my Grade 2 up a few times and it felt abnormally good , so I just measured the drop . The comb is 1 3/4" and the heel is 2" . Correct me if I'm wrong but that's not normal for a field gun made in 1884 unless it was special ordered . If it were on a 2 or 3 frame I might speculate pigeon gun , but this things on a 1 frame .:whistle:
Randy G Roberts
01-10-2019, 11:08 AM
I've been throwing my Grade 2 up a few times and it felt abnormally good , so I just measured the drop . The comb is 1 3/4" and the heel is 2" . Correct me if I'm wrong but that's not normal for a field gun made in 1884 unless it was special ordered . If it were on a 2 or 3 frame I might speculate pigeon gun , but this things on a 1 frame .:whistle:
Craig I assume we are speaking of a 12 gauge ? Also how's it configured including barrel length ?
Dean Romig
01-10-2019, 11:32 AM
Very high dimensions for the period - likely to be ordered that way.
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CraigThompson
01-10-2019, 11:36 AM
Very high dimensions for the period - likely to be ordered that way.
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I just ordered a letter for it and the lifter 10 I got before Xmas !
I "thought" I needed to replace the part that holds the lever back when the guns open , but I spent a bit of time using brake cleaner and a very small pick . Now the lever stays back as it's supposed to .
The other Grade 2 12 is supposed to arrive tomorrow (Friday) and the Grade 0 12 I would hope will arrive next week some time . If they intrest me like this old beat up Grade 2 I'll pay the "letter tax" for them LOL's .
CraigThompson
01-10-2019, 11:40 AM
I got a letter on my recent 4 frame and it was ordered by Carlos Gove, famous gun maker from Colorado. Was apparently the only Parker he ordered so probably his personal gun.
That most recent 4 frame really should migrate north to the Old Dominion , the central part to be more exact :whistle:
At the least it oughtta make the spring trip to Sanford NC !
CraigThompson
01-10-2019, 11:52 AM
Craig I assume we are speaking of a 12 gauge ? Also how's it configured including barrel length ?
12 gauge 30 inch Damascus . I originally stated the gun was a 2 frame and that's what I thought it was until it arrived Tuesday but it turned out to be a 1 frame .
Randy G Roberts
01-10-2019, 12:00 PM
12 gauge 30 inch Damascus . I originally stated the gun was a 2 frame and that's what I thought it was until it arrived Tuesday but it turned out to be a 1 frame .
Personally I would consider that frame size to be a positive surprise, sounds like you do as well. I'm with you on the fact that it is not a Pigeon configuration
and Dean as well on the special ordered dimensions.
Mills Morrison
01-10-2019, 01:00 PM
I have letters on all of my guns where info is available and I have all letters organized in a PGCA binder. Worth every penny. It is like being able to admire your guns without getting them all out of the safe.
Mills Morrison
01-10-2019, 01:04 PM
I have a one frame on the way as we speak. Stay tuned . . . .
CraigThompson
01-12-2019, 05:07 PM
Once again the USPS screwed me . The other Grade 2 was supposed to be here Friday and going by their tracking system it’s not arrived in Richmond yet much less Orange . Now if it had a long distance to travel I’d be more understanding but Aberdeen MD to Orange VA is about 160 miles . The USPS has had the damn thing for five days and it was sent Priority no less .
Randy G Roberts
01-12-2019, 05:17 PM
USPS priority is the absolute slowest means of shipping in the country. There's folks that swear by it because it's registered and every step is signed for as I understand it. Personally I despise shipping via USPS. Way to slow for my liking.
CraigThompson
01-12-2019, 05:57 PM
USPS priority is the absolute slowest means of shipping in the country. There's folks that swear by it because it's registered and every step is signed for as I understand it. Personally I despise shipping via USPS. Way to slow for my liking.
I ship guns and other sporting items practically every day . We use UPS pretty much exclusively and no they aren’t perfect , but they do better then 30 miles a DAY .
CraigThompson
01-14-2019, 07:53 PM
Well my gun departed Linthicum MD distribution center 1-9-19 and just arrived in Richmond Va an hour age 1-14-19 with NO STOPS in between . That’s a crock of poop if I ever heard one . I hesitate to think what kind of shape the box will be in when and if it arrives AND if the guns still in the box . I realize the USPS serves or served a purpose once upon a time but seems to me that time may well be past !
CraigThompson
01-14-2019, 07:57 PM
I’ve got a Grade 0 top lever leaving Hendersonville NC Tuesday or Wednesday I hope like hell that one comes UPS or even Fedex .
Mills Morrison
01-15-2019, 02:21 PM
Mine sat in a Post Office in New Jersey for several days with "not scanned in yet" and then it magically appeared in Savannah.
Oh well, they aren't paid much and now aren't paid at all, so cut them some slack, I guess. My local Post Office in SC is great. They love guns
CraigThompson
01-15-2019, 04:00 PM
Gun arrived today with four inches of the barrels poking out ! They already had the nick in the end when on GB . But amazingly the gun seems none the worse .
Mills Morrison
01-15-2019, 04:10 PM
Yikes! Well, I have two supposed to arrive in California tomorrow, so hope they arrive safely.
CraigThompson
01-16-2019, 09:08 AM
The Grade 2 Two frame 12 gauge arrived yesterday with the barrels poking out the box . But other then the delay and the shock of the box condition all seems to be in order . This one doesn’t have as nice stock dimensions as the One frame but it’s shootable .
Dean Romig
01-16-2019, 09:13 AM
Nice one!
And with a ruffed grouse on the bottom - even nicer!!
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Dean Romig
01-16-2019, 09:17 AM
It’s just incredible how some people pack guns... no real protection at all.
I wonder if Mark Ray took a picture of the packaging I used to send a buttstock to him last week...?
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CraigThompson
01-16-2019, 09:36 AM
It’s just incredible how some people pack guns... no real protection at all.
I wonder if Mark Ray took a picture of the packaging I used to send a buttstock to him last week...?
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The guy I bought it from lived in the Republik of MD and he told me he took it to a dealer to ship it to us and the dealer packaged it . I dunno which was worse the packing job or the USPS . I dunno why he needed to use a dealer being as the guns an 1884 , maybe it’s a state thing . And on the other hand I’ve packed some guns really really well , where they have about two inches of bubble wrap on all sides and other stuff around them So they don’t move inside the box and some people still complain .
Mills Morrison
01-16-2019, 09:50 AM
Good looking gun.
Phil Yearout
01-16-2019, 10:35 AM
https://i.imgur.com/HpEkZ9Gl.jpg :eek::eek::eek:
Eric Eis
01-16-2019, 03:11 PM
[QUOTE=CraigThompson;262968]Gun arrived today with four inches of the barrels poking out ! They already had the nick in the end when on GB . But amazingly the gun seems none the worse .[/QUOt
Wow, how bad was the packaging inside the box. :banghead:
CraigThompson
01-16-2019, 05:03 PM
[QUOTE=CraigThompson;262968]Gun arrived today with four inches of the barrels poking out ! They already had the nick in the end when on GB . But amazingly the gun seems none the worse .[/QUOt
Wow, how bad was the packaging inside the box. :banghead:
The gun was wrapped somewhat with bubble wrap but as you can see it pushed off the barrel end . And inside the box there was very little packing material to keep it from slopping around .
John Dallas
01-16-2019, 05:05 PM
Craig - Did you send a picture to the seller? Might save someone else a big problem
CraigThompson
01-16-2019, 05:15 PM
Craig - Did you send a picture to the seller? Might save someone else a big problem
No pic but I told him .
CraigThompson
01-17-2019, 10:41 AM
The circa 1886 Parker 0 Grade 12 gauge 2 frame 28” arrived today . This one came FREDex from NC was sent Tuesday and got here about thirty minutes ago .
CraigThompson
01-17-2019, 10:45 AM
Three hammer guns down and a somewhat abused 1889 DH 10 gauge to go !
CraigThompson
01-17-2019, 01:45 PM
Just got the letter for the Grade 2 #1 frame gun .
Mills Morrison
01-17-2019, 02:12 PM
Very interesting
Eric Eis
01-17-2019, 02:20 PM
Three hammer guns down and a somewhat abused 1889 DH 10 gauge to go !
What about a 20 gauge hammer gun ......:rotf::rotf:
Mills Morrison
01-17-2019, 02:56 PM
For me, it seems there are only a few 20 gauge hammer guns and a lot of people who want one more than I do. I am just deferring to others.
Dean Romig
01-17-2019, 03:30 PM
Wow! 2 1/2" DAH and F/F chokes! What's not to like about this fine turkey and waterfowl gun?!
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CraigThompson
01-17-2019, 05:02 PM
What about a 20 gauge hammer gun ......:rotf::rotf:
Sure send me one I accept donations :whistle:
Eric Eis
01-17-2019, 05:35 PM
Sure send me one I accept donations :whistle:
Craig, you just have to search a little harder :rolleyes:
ps. I don't have one either, talk to Gary C if you need one!
CraigThompson
01-17-2019, 05:56 PM
Craig, you just have to search a little harder :rolleyes:
ps. I don't have one either, talk to Gary C if you need one!
The 20 doesn’t really call me in a hammer gun . A top lever Grade 2 16 would intrest me and a GH/GHE 20 gauge would certainly intrest me .
CraigThompson
02-04-2019, 10:54 AM
My latest Mill’s of the year an 1889 DH 10 with several issues that need to be addressed .
Mills Morrison
02-04-2019, 10:57 AM
That should be a good working gun. Just in time for turkey season right around the corner
CraigThompson
02-04-2019, 02:53 PM
A friend in Ohio sent me a mold last week and it arrived today . He had it cut for a rifled 12 gauge , I may eventually use it in that capacity but my main reason to get it was for use in old 10 gauge doubles . It drops at a thousandth or so over .730” and weighs approximately 660-680 grains . I think the DH pictured above will be the first to try this slug .
Mills Morrison
02-04-2019, 04:39 PM
The engraving on my DH 10 is worn too. Mine identifies as a P grade, since the engraving is almost gone and the two best barrels are some P grades I added too it.
CraigThompson
02-05-2019, 02:57 PM
The DH liked the new to me solid base slug in the left barrel well enough but the right barrel although keeping them together threw them a bit to far right . This was 29.6 grains SR7625 SP-10 was with petals removed , two 16 gauge 1/8 card wads on top the SP wad base .
CraigThompson
02-05-2019, 02:59 PM
With 0 buck 12 pellets and buffer . SP-10 shot cup in tact with 10 gauge overshot card on top .
CraigThompson
02-05-2019, 03:04 PM
Tried #1 Buck 16 pellets with buffer in the SP-10 shot cup and a 10 gauge over shot card .
Mills Morrison
02-05-2019, 03:28 PM
I would love to go on a old fashioned deer drive down here and do a Parker Pages article on it. They are becoming fewer and fewer though. A local plantation put on a charity drive every year, but then somebody got shot (not fatal) and they discontinued it on liability reasons. It was too bad.
CraigThompson
02-05-2019, 05:33 PM
I would love to go on a old fashioned deer drive down here and do a Parker Pages article on it. They are becoming fewer and fewer though. A local plantation put on a charity drive every year, but then somebody got shot (not fatal) and they discontinued it on liability reasons. It was too bad.
Well if you find one preferably around Archibald Rutledge’s stomping grounds and you can get another person or three in please let me know I’d love to plunk one in that area with my own handloaded buckshot .
Daniel Carter
02-05-2019, 06:11 PM
Mills, just finished re-reading Rutledge's book for the third or fourth time. Looked up Hampton plantation on Google earth and found it and that it has been preserved as a park. A friend went to Virginia this year and hunted with a group with a large lease and a good pack. He enjoyed it but technology has changed every thing, think GPS collars on the dogs and reading them from the pick up and using it to get to the stands.
Mills Morrison
02-05-2019, 06:32 PM
Actually, the house and 300 acres are a state park. The Rutledge family still owns 1,000 or so acres of the property. I think they still use it for hunting
Mills Morrison
02-05-2019, 06:33 PM
Well if you find one preferably around Archibald Rutledge’s stomping grounds and you can get another person or three in please let me know I’d love to plunk one in that area with my own handloaded buckshot .
Will do
CraigThompson
02-05-2019, 07:10 PM
Mills, just finished re-reading Rutledge's book for the third or fourth time. Looked up Hampton plantation on Google earth and found it and that it has been preserved as a park. A friend went to Virginia this year and hunted with a group with a large lease and a good pack. He enjoyed it but technology has changed every thing, think GPS collars on the dogs and reading them from the pick up and using it to get to the stands.
I’ve never been a big hunter of deer with dogs . Nothing wrong with it , I just never was around it . I wouldn’t mind experiencing it once or twice however . The state of affairs in the Old Dominion for the deer hunters that use deer dogs isn’t the best . There has seemed to be a constant turmoil . And if I’m not mistaken the dog hunters in North Carolina are starting to have the same issues .
Mills Morrison
02-05-2019, 07:49 PM
South Carolina has the same issues. It is a dying tradition for several reasons.
CraigThompson
02-17-2019, 03:15 PM
Mills struck again ! I have an Grade 0 10 gauge 4 frame 34” coming :cool:
Mark Ray
02-18-2019, 01:52 PM
Well, I swore to myself that I wouldnt buy any guns this year until I had performd some serious “fleet maintenance”!!
But, a little tiny angel on my shoulder, that looked suspiciously like Mills, whispering “buy it, buy it now!” in my ear just made me push the buy it now button on a Philly Fox 20 Sterlingworth “Brush”, when it gets here I will post pics in Mills “Quail Guns” thread....
Mills, you my sir are a badd influence!
Mills Morrison
02-18-2019, 01:57 PM
Well, I swore to myself that I wouldnt buy any guns this year until I had performd some serious “fleet maintenance”!!
But, a little tiny angel on my shoulder, that looked suspiciously like Mills, whispering “buy it, buy it now!” in my ear just made me push the buy it now button on a Philly Fox 20 Sterlingworth “Brush”, when it gets here I will post pics in Mills “Quail Guns” thread....
Mills, you my sir are a badd influence!
Always happy to be of assistance!:cheers:
CraigThompson
02-18-2019, 04:21 PM
Ok I’m on hold for the year ! Well unless I can find a Grade 2 top lever 2 frame 30” 10 gauge or a Grade 2 top lever 4 frame 10 gauge or a Grade 2 top lever 5 frame 10 gauge (actually any grade of a 5 frame) or an EH 26” or an EH 24” :rotf::rotf:
Randy G Roberts
02-18-2019, 08:36 PM
Ok I’m on hold for the year ! Well unless I can find a Grade 2 top lever 2 frame 30” 10 gauge or a Grade 2 top lever 4 frame 10 gauge or a Grade 2 top lever 5 frame 10 gauge (actually any grade of a 5 frame) or an EH 26” or an EH 24” :rotf::rotf:
Ha. You're not on hold, sounds more like you're on pause to me. Just sayin :)
CraigThompson
02-18-2019, 08:51 PM
Ha. You're not on hold, sounds more like you're on pause to me. Just sayin :)
Need to replenish the bank a bit first :rotf:
Time to start preparing for my months vacation in July/August to the Philippines . My grandson likes toys and eating out A LOT . Nah he's not spoiled at all when Ampah is there !!!!!
Mark Ray
02-25-2019, 10:57 PM
Always happy to be of assistance!:cheers:
Mills, your bad influence continues to infect me!! A gun dealer that I have made some good deals with in the past, “twisted my arm”, and sold me a VERY late Meridan VH-12 bore. It shows really light 3# 9oz barrels, but an atrocious after market beavertail and a cut butt with a gorgeous petrified white line pad over an obviously cut down butt. Barrels and action and iron in like 85% condition...bought it cheap, part it or sell it?.
Mills Morrison
02-26-2019, 09:40 AM
Find out how well it shoots before deciding what to do with it
Bill Murphy
02-26-2019, 12:20 PM
Restock it. In 58 years of Parker buying, I have never parted out a Parker. I have always added parts to an orphan to make it good.
Mark Ray
02-26-2019, 06:56 PM
Restock it. In 58 years of Parker buying, I have never parted out a Parker. I have always added parts to an orphan to make it good.
Gun not in hand yet, but looks like it might be in decent condition other than the wood....maybe ill start looking for orphan wood.
Mills Morrison
02-26-2019, 07:44 PM
New fore end needed for sure
CraigThompson
03-18-2019, 11:16 PM
Well I got a semi expensive lesson today ! Bought a gun from the Rock Island Auction and it showed up today . I should have asked more questions ! The stock isn’t original , the upper grip tang is a bit different and the first two inches of the rib at the muzzle end are loose . A bit disappointed but I can’t blame anyone but myself for not asking more .
Mills Morrison
03-18-2019, 11:19 PM
That stinks.
CraigThompson
03-18-2019, 11:36 PM
That stinks.
That’s certainly a case of live and learn :shock: I set it aside for now , I’ll eventually send it to Merrington or someone and have the rib relaid . Think I have a line already on a pair of Parker hammers and hammer screws . But the upper tang not much can be done and no need looking for an original stock the same frame size . Amazingly the barrels still ring relatively well and they look very nice on the inside but I’d bet they’ve been polished at some point .
CraigThompson
03-18-2019, 11:41 PM
It needs to be tightened a bit . I’ll shoot it on paper atleast with buckshot before I worry about re laying the rib and perhaps plunk a deer next season . So now I have a hammer gun to fix a broken hammer retaining screw , another hammer gun to address a couple stock cracks and this new set of uh problems LOL’s . Took care of a dented twist steel muzzle dent earlier today and manipulated a set of scope bases on a Mannlicher Schoenauer. Looks like I get two issues resolved a half dozen more come into view !
Randy G Roberts
03-19-2019, 07:01 AM
Well I got a semi expensive lesson today ! Bought a gun from the Rock Island Auction and it showed up today . I should have asked more questions ! The stock isn’t original , the upper grip tang is a bit different and the first two inches of the rib at the muzzle end are loose . A bit disappointed but I can’t blame anyone but myself for not asking more .
Most of us have been there including me and about everyone I know It seems the older I get the less desire I have to buy a gun that I have not held in my own hands. Not that I won't do it mind you. I don't care how many questions you ask there's no substitute for holding it yourself especially if you plan on keeping it. Good luck with the repairs Craig...
Eric Eis
03-19-2019, 07:07 AM
Well I got a semi expensive lesson today ! Bought a gun from the Rock Island Auction and it showed up today . I should have asked more questions ! The stock isn’t original , the upper grip tang is a bit different and the first two inches of the rib at the muzzle end are loose . A bit disappointed but I can’t blame anyone but myself for not asking more .
Sorry to hear that Craig, been there and done that myself :banghead: That's why it's so nice to be able to have it in hand or have a friend at the auction that can look over the gun for you. I got burned once on a DHE Damascus that the auction house said had 30 thousandths wall thickness and it had 15 thousandths in the one barrel :eek:
Mills Morrison
03-19-2019, 06:36 PM
Tis the season
CraigThompson
03-20-2019, 09:01 AM
My Rock Island oversight/mistake .
CraigThompson
03-20-2019, 09:02 AM
Un struck weight is 6/15 incidentally .
Mills Morrison
03-20-2019, 09:06 AM
It could be worse
CraigThompson
03-20-2019, 09:54 AM
It could be worse
You are 100% correct . It’ll be okay it’ll just take a bit to get over the initial let down :rolleyes:
CraigThompson
03-20-2019, 09:58 AM
On a positive note a fellow I’ve done business with before tells me he has a wooden box with a bunch of Parker parts inside , hammers screws etc . Including a top lever hammer gun only missing the barrels . Supposed to send me pics and price soon . Now if the good lords willing the creek don’t rise and I follow my diet , that box of stuff might just have several pieces to get this 4 frame gun back on the right track :whistle:
CraigThompson
03-20-2019, 10:06 AM
I have my eye on two items in a local auction this weekend . An S&W 19-3 2 1/2” and a Remington 700 ADL 270 of 1962 or 63 vintage . It’s the first checkerung pattern ADL and the squared safety button . 270 needs a reblue but I’m looking at it as a donor to build a 6mm-06 with 1:8 twist so I can shoot Berger 105 and 115 VLD’s . The 19-3 I would like to have because it’s a pinned barrel gun with a recessed cylinder and it’s a match for the 19-3 4” I already own . For some innate reason I’ve recently become enamored with 19’s and 29’s provided they’re pinned and recessed .
Dean Romig
03-20-2019, 10:55 AM
And Remington hammers too...
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Bill Murphy
03-20-2019, 12:12 PM
Craig, you didn't show us pictures of the problem upper tang. The other problems are a piece of cake. The big beavertail on TX's VH may not be a problem either. I gave a Super Fox with a bigger beavertail than that one to a friend and he found a wonderful splinter forend buried in the beavertail, did a wonderful job of carving it to shape and recheckering it in the factory Fox pattern. Even the latch assembly fell into place.
CraigThompson
03-20-2019, 04:36 PM
Craig, you didn't show us pictures of the problem upper tang. The other problems are a piece of cake. The big beavertail on TX's VH may not be a problem either. I gave a Super Fox with a bigger beavertail than that one to a friend and he found a wonderful splinter forend buried in the beavertail, did a wonderful job of carving it to shape and recheckering it in the factory Fox pattern. Even the latch assembly fell into place.
Relaying the rib while possibly being easy for someone that does it is not an inexpensive proposition . A stock without a factory stamped correct serial number is also a big problem to me .
CraigThompson
03-20-2019, 04:40 PM
Shot it a couple times with 000 buck at 25 yards .
CraigThompson
03-20-2019, 04:41 PM
What I “assume” is an incorrect upper tang .
CraigThompson
03-20-2019, 04:44 PM
And last but most surely not the least . The screwed up top rib :eek:
CraigThompson
03-20-2019, 04:46 PM
The barrels actually ring relatively well even though the first two to three inches at the muzzle have popped up a skoosh . But I also assume they can’t just fix that but need to relay the whole damn thing .
Dean Romig
03-20-2019, 04:47 PM
And last but most surely not the least . The screwed up top rib :eek:
My money's on that rib being the reason it's patterning low...:eek:
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CraigThompson
03-20-2019, 04:58 PM
My money's on that rib being the reason it's patterning low...:eek:
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Whatcha talking about that’s prime trap elevation rib NOT :rolleyes::rotf:
CraigThompson
06-18-2019, 03:44 PM
The barrels of the 4 frame left today to hopefully be fixed . Ordered a set of hammers yesterday as well . Also the fellow that’s doing the rib work on the 4 frame barrels is going to refresh the barrels on my DH 10 .
Mills Morrison
06-18-2019, 03:50 PM
Very cool and keep us posted. I have lost count of how many 10 gauges I have. Wasn't planning to get any this year, but then a VH 10 fell in my lap
CraigThompson
06-20-2019, 06:59 PM
Received a text from my barrel guy that the ribs done on my 4 frame !
Mills Morrison
06-21-2019, 11:06 AM
I need a 5 frame now. All in good time
CraigThompson
06-21-2019, 11:12 AM
I need a 5 frame now. All in good time
You and me both :cool: A second grade 2 four frame would be nice as well !
Craig Larter
06-21-2019, 03:30 PM
And I thought I was nuts, you two have me beat no way to keep up . Who is relaying the ribs on the 5 frame.
CraigThompson
06-21-2019, 03:37 PM
And I thought I was nuts, you two have me beat no way to keep up . Who is relaying the ribs on the 5 frame.
It’s a 4 frame actually . Fellow by the name of Breck Gorman he’s between where I live and Richmond VA about thirty to forty miles away . He’s a Parker person as well .
Mills Morrison
06-21-2019, 04:45 PM
I am really trying to focus on small bores this year. Have only fallen off the wagon once with the VH 10
Harry Collins
06-22-2019, 10:25 AM
I'm feeling underprivileged.
CraigThompson
06-22-2019, 01:28 PM
I'm feeling underprivileged.
I know I’m “underprivileged” , I don’t own a VH 28 and I’ll probably never own a VH 410 :crying::rotf:
CraigThompson
06-24-2019, 01:03 PM
Well well the damned old Remington hammers have been evicted from my 4 frame and a pair of Dave Fjelline’s hammers have replaced them ! When the barrels make it back I’m going to pattern it again and in the front yard no less :eek:
CraigThompson
06-24-2019, 01:19 PM
Also added a pair of Dave’s screws almost forgot about them ! As they weren’t in those previous two pictures .
CraigThompson
06-24-2019, 01:21 PM
Don’t think I’ll loose to much sleep over looking for an original four frame stock . Just put this one back together and shoot it some and leave well enough alone .
Mills Morrison
06-24-2019, 01:22 PM
Hammers you mean? Looks good and a big improvement
Mills Morrison
06-24-2019, 01:24 PM
My 4 frame lifter has a replacement stock that is incorrect, but has character and works just fine.
Bill Murphy
06-24-2019, 02:24 PM
Mills, did your stock come from another Parker of a different frame size?
CraigThompson
06-24-2019, 02:26 PM
Hammers you mean? Looks good and a big improvement
Yes sir you are 100% correct ! To many things going on around here , it’s hell when you start having brain farts in your 50’s :rotf:
Mills Morrison
06-24-2019, 02:38 PM
Mills, did your stock come from another Parker of a different frame size?
I am pretty sure it is a handmade job. Looks like they made it oversize so it would not crack
Jeff Kuss
06-24-2019, 07:40 PM
Craig,
If you think it is bad in your 50's, just wait!
CraigThompson
06-25-2019, 01:02 PM
Craig,
If you think it is bad in your 50's, just wait!
Heck I can remember the time when I was young I didn’t think I’d reach 35 (I had a bit of a wild/rebellious streak) , so I didn’t really worry about taking care of myself . Now it’s beginning to show LOL’s ! My goal in life now is to live long enough to see our grandson graduate from college , wife and I’ll be 58 in 32 days so I figure we need to see 78 to accomplish the goal :eek:
John Dallas
06-25-2019, 01:07 PM
Wasn't it Satchel Paige who said "If I had known I was going to live this long, I'da taken better care of myself"?
Mills Morrison
06-25-2019, 02:57 PM
Our old neighbor said that and then he said, either that or he would have opened the throttle wide-@$$ open and made sure he didn't make it as long as he did.
CraigThompson
06-25-2019, 04:06 PM
Our old neighbor said that and then he said, either that or he would have opened the throttle wide-@$$ open and made sure he didn't make it as long as he did.
I held her open several times but always came out unscathed . And at that time I didn’t care , now that my outlooks changed 180 degrees every morning brings a new ache , pain or limp :rotf:
Eric Eis
06-25-2019, 04:07 PM
Wasn't it Satchel Paige who said "If I had known I was going to live this long, I'da taken better care of myself"?
Also Keith Richards of the Rolling Stones said the samething in an interview!
CraigThompson
06-25-2019, 04:12 PM
Also Keith Richards of the Rolling Stones said the samething in an interview!
You’ll never be able to convince me that Keith Richards wasn’t what got the movie folks thinking about “walking dead” “zombies” that type of thing :rotf:
CraigThompson
06-26-2019, 11:20 AM
Just got a text from my barrel guru ! As I stated earlier he had already fixed the rib on the four frame gun and now he’s already redone the DH barrels . So it appears I’ll have them in hand Thursday or Friday :cool:
CraigThompson
06-27-2019, 10:02 PM
My four frame and DH are barreled again ! With two pics of the four frame rib that I thought came out very nicely and a sub standard picture of the DH pattern . Thank you Breck Gorman :cool:
CraigThompson
06-27-2019, 10:08 PM
I think I’ll put a pad on the DH and remove the blueing from the action . And I’ll be mostly satisfied .
CraigThompson
06-28-2019, 11:32 AM
Just shot a shot from each barrel at 25 yards using my 00 buck handloads . Not the greatest but acceptable for my parameters and the POI is now where it should be ! Oh yeah these shells were loaded in brand new unfired hulls , that may or may not make a difference.
CraigThompson
06-28-2019, 11:39 AM
These pics should have been in the previouse thread but for some reason they didn't want to download from my I Phone so I went to the laptop and here we are !
CraigThompson
06-28-2019, 11:39 AM
And once again this damn site turns my pics side ways !
CraigThompson
09-25-2019, 03:48 PM
Shot the 4 frame 0 grade 10 at the range today . 630 grain solid base slugs I cast and loaded a few months back . These were at 25 yards from the bench . I was quite pleased .
CraigThompson
09-25-2019, 03:50 PM
000 and 00 from the bench today at 25 yards . Wasn’t so impressed with these but within my parameters a deer will most likely be in trouble if died upon .
CraigThompson
09-25-2019, 03:52 PM
The 4 frame I shot these with is the gun Breck Gorman relaid the top rib for me .
Mills Morrison
09-25-2019, 04:02 PM
Glad you are getting it out. I need to get some 10 gauge and 8 gauge buckshot myself. You are right the first group looks better.
John Dallas
09-25-2019, 04:17 PM
Looks like you're spending more on masking tape than paper. Good! Save a tree!
Dean Romig
09-25-2019, 04:24 PM
Pretty decent on the slugs, and that's without rifling!
Did you shoot the 000 and 00 at 25 yards too? What was the average diameter of the spread?
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CraigThompson
09-25-2019, 05:42 PM
Pretty decent on the slugs, and that's without rifling!
Did you shoot the 000 and 00 at 25 yards too? What was the average diameter of the spread?
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Yeah usually I shoot everything at 25 and occasionally at 50 . Never have measured the spread on any of the patterns I’m usually just intrested to see how many of them stayed on the box . Old gun isn’t doing to terribly bad for what i’d call a beater .
CraigThompson
09-25-2019, 05:52 PM
Glad you are getting it out. I need to get some 10 gauge and 8 gauge buckshot myself. You are right the first group looks better.
I’ve gotten someone I trust to stay in the house with my father , so I can get out for six hours two to four days a week . I have my Ravin crossbow ready , still need some more work with my new Remington 700 Ultimate ML , have my very new Remington 700 6mm-06 ready to go with Berger 6mm 115 grain VLD’s . Have the 338 Federal I got at the Jerry’s going out of buisness sale ready to go and I changed scopes on my Ruger #1H 416 REM Mag as I’d like to plunk one with it . Next week if able I wanna work some more with the ML and check my Mannlicher Schoenauer MC 30-06 carbine with the five loads I had for it last season . Also wanna get the little Ruger #3 that was a 44 Mag and was already a 444 when I got it with two or three of the loads I had for it last season . And last but not least the blued Ruger RedHawk that’s scoped!
CraigThompson
09-26-2019, 07:27 AM
Glad you are getting it out. I need to get some 10 gauge and 8 gauge buckshot myself. You are right the first group looks better.
When I started messing with 0000 and 00000 home cast buckshot I knew it was going to take a little outside the box execution in loading . But if I had an 8 gauge I bet the .380” (0000) and .395” (00000) would fit pretty well . By fit well I mean inside the SP-8 shotcup where as I remove the SP-10 petals and use a .003 Mylar wrap in my 10’s . Well actually in recent months I’ve started trying that with 000 and 00 as well .
CraigThompson
10-02-2019, 02:18 PM
FWIW I was at the range today and had along my nicer 10 lifter . I patterned 0000 and 00000 at 25 yards from both barrels .
Dean Romig
10-02-2019, 02:37 PM
Which barrel/choke do these targets represent?
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CraigThompson
10-02-2019, 03:28 PM
Which barrel/choke do these targets represent?
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White box is left brown box is right . I don’t think this gun has much if any constriction . But if it gets carried any this year it’s gonna be stuffed with 0000 buck !
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