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MichaelYacino
12-19-2018, 03:37 PM
Hi all!

I am new to this forum and, frankly, Parkers as well.

I am a FFL (a small 1-man shop in Massachusetts) and have consigned 4 Parkers, which is where my education began. Pretty quickly I picked up a copy of the Parker Gun Identification & Serialization which has proven a great primer and reference.

I am looking for some input on a 20 gauge DHE that has two sets of barrels. Serial numbers on both barrels match (as well as the receiver and forend). One of the barrel sets (26” and presumably the original) is marked “Titanic Steel” while the other (28”) is void of any rib markings. The Parker Gun Identification & Serialization does not reference a second set of barrels, only the option “2” (ejectors).

The serial number is 239154, putting the gun in the Remington years. My assumption at would be that after initial delivery, a second set of barrels was ordered which were made and fitted under Remington.

Thoughts?

Patrick Lien
12-19-2018, 03:45 PM
Show us the rest of it please. The second set could be original or added later by Remington. Show us the barrel flats for each barrel so we can see if there are Remington repair codes. DHE 20's are nice guns.

PML

allen newell
12-19-2018, 03:49 PM
Michael, where in Mass are you located?

Dean Romig
12-19-2018, 04:46 PM
Hi Mike! I know you... or I know your father... executive director of GOAL, right?

I live in Andover, MA and have held positions as BOD member and officer of a couple of shooting and fishing clubs. I'm glad you found us!

The set of barrels without the legend on the rib are late Remington production. But we should still see clear pictures of the barrel flats.

Where is your shop? I'd like to visit you there.

Best, Dean





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Gerald McPherson
12-19-2018, 04:47 PM
Are both sets 20 Gauge? One looks larger.

MichaelYacino
12-19-2018, 09:56 PM
Michael, where in Mass are you located?

Hi Allen - the shop is in Whitinsville.

MichaelYacino
12-19-2018, 09:57 PM
Are both sets 20 Gauge? One looks larger.

Yes - they both 20 ga, albeit different lengths.

MichaelYacino
12-19-2018, 10:01 PM
Hi Mike! I know you... or I know your father... executive director of GOAL, right?

I live in Andover, MA and have held positions as BOD member and officer of a couple of shooting and fishing clubs. I'm glad you found us!

The set of barrels without the legend on the rib are late Remington production. But we should still see clear pictures of the barrel flats.

Where is your shop? I'd like to visit you there.

Best, Dean

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Hi Dean - yes, that would be my Dad you're thinking of. I'll get some better pictures of the barrel flats posted tomorrow when I get to the shop.

Brian Dudley
12-19-2018, 10:17 PM
The second set looks to be remington made and remington fitted barrels. Fitted to the gun at a later date then the gun was originally made.

allen newell
12-20-2018, 09:10 AM
Michael, check your pm's

Dean Romig
12-20-2018, 11:49 AM
Ditto...






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MichaelYacino
12-20-2018, 02:10 PM
All - thanks already for the input! Here are some better images of the barrel flats.

Dean Romig
12-20-2018, 02:17 PM
The lower two pics are definitely Remington made barrels and the upper pictures are of Parker-made or Meriden era of Remington owned Parker gun works made barrels that have stamps only associated with Remington ownership.





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Rich Anderson
12-20-2018, 02:23 PM
I'm curious as to why the Remington barrels would be 12oz heavier unstruck weight.

Rich Anderson
12-20-2018, 07:01 PM
I'm sure the offers are pouring in via pm. A nice gun for the holidays.

Richard Flanders
12-20-2018, 07:11 PM
My dream 20ga for sure.

Ken Hill
12-20-2018, 08:20 PM
In the last picture, the bottom rib is drilled ahead of the fore end lug. Does this this indicate the barrels were reblued?

Ken

todd allen
12-20-2018, 08:52 PM
So, what's the rest of the gun look like?

Patrick Lien
12-20-2018, 11:07 PM
In the last picture, the bottom rib is drilled ahead of the fore end lug. Does this this indicate the barrels were reblued?

Ken

That’s a Remington trait. That; the absence of rib inscription; and the heavy unstruck barrel weight would tell me that remington built those barrels. Still not convinced they were added later though.

PML

MichaelYacino
12-21-2018, 09:57 AM
So, what's the rest of the gun look like?

It's on Guns International. I believe etiquette dictates I post/reference the listing in the Sales Thread, so I will do that.

Reggie Bishop
12-21-2018, 10:45 AM
Michael can you share with us what the other 3 Parkers are? I think you mentioned you had 4 on consignment?

Dean Romig
12-21-2018, 10:50 AM
Please tell us the GI item number.





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Randy G Roberts
12-21-2018, 11:49 AM
[QUOTE=Dean Romig;260940]Please tell us the GI item number.

I believe this is it. Interesting engraving.....

https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-for-sale-online/shotguns/parker-shotguns/parker-dh-ejector.cfm?gun_id=101135481

Dean Romig
12-21-2018, 11:56 AM
Nice Remington Parker DHE. I believe the engraving was done by Bob Runge.

It appears the stock and forend were done in Meriden by Parker Bros. Employees as the drop points and checkering are of that style, most likely done just before the move to Illion.

I wonder if it was Remington’s decision or that of the engraver to sidestep the traditional Parker Bros. positioning of the pointer on the left and the setter on the right side of the frame by reversing the position of the dogs.

I wonder what might be the first serial number Parker to display this new trend in engraving ‘style’?






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Dean Romig
12-21-2018, 02:03 PM
Some new thoughts just added to my previous post.






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MichaelYacino
12-21-2018, 02:06 PM
Please tell us the GI item number.
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All - I've posted links to all four in the "For Sale" forum.

Dean Romig
12-21-2018, 02:35 PM
Nice guns!

Somebody appreciated them and took really good care of them.





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