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Rich Anderson
12-11-2018, 11:33 AM
Several have posted about their 32 inch 20's and hunting with them. I'd like to know what frame size these guns are on. If these were meant for waterfowling I would think they would be an a one frame. I have one that came out of California with factory 3 inch chambers but it's an 0 frame, just seems light for a small bore duck gun.

Dean Romig
12-11-2018, 12:53 PM
The 3” 20’s weren’t developed for heavier loads or increased downrange energy. The 3” shells of the day just used thicker wads necessitating a longer shell and chamber. They had basically the same ballistics and charges of the shorter shells.





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Jay Gardner
12-11-2018, 12:56 PM
Rich; my 32/20 VHE was ordered with 3" chambers and is a #1-frame.

Jay

Larry Frey
12-11-2018, 01:43 PM
My 32" VHE 20 is a 2 Frame.

Reggie Bishop
12-11-2018, 01:45 PM
My 32" DHE 20 is a 0 frame.

Daryl Corona
12-11-2018, 01:46 PM
32/20 DHE, 3", 1 frame.

Bill Murphy
12-11-2018, 01:52 PM
I'm on my second #2 frame. I foolishly sold the first one, VH #153,333.

Randy G Roberts
12-11-2018, 01:58 PM
32/20 VHE O Frame 2 3/4"
32/20 VH O Frame 2 5/8"
32/20 DHE 1 Frame 3"

Reggie Bishop
12-11-2018, 07:35 PM
Nine and counting?

Patrick Lien
12-11-2018, 07:53 PM
32”/28” DHE 0 frame 3” chambers.
32” DHE 1 frame 2 5/8” chambers.

PML

Andrew Clark
12-11-2018, 08:08 PM
32/20 PHE 0, 2 1'2"

Ed Blake
12-11-2018, 09:52 PM
32” DH 20 #2 frame

Randy G Roberts
12-11-2018, 10:00 PM
Hope you don't mind me inquiring on this within your thread Rich but I would be curious as to the weight of these 2 frame guns. The general question seems to follow your original scope of interest on the thread.

Phillip Carr
12-11-2018, 10:44 PM
My 32” 20 VH is on a 1 frame and letters to 2 7/8” chambers.

John Truitt
12-11-2018, 11:02 PM
32" #1 frame 3" no safety
32" #2 frame 3" no safety

MARK KIRCHER
12-12-2018, 05:29 AM
1913 DHE 20 32" Pistol grip 1 frame 2 7/8" chamber - hang tags show 7lbs 2 oz - digital scale same
1920 GHE 20 32" Straight grip 0 frame 2 5/8" chamber - digital scale 6 lbs 8 oz

Jeff Kuss
12-12-2018, 07:09 AM
vhe 20 32" 1 frame 3"
ghe 20 32" 0 frame 2 3/4"

Reggie Bishop
12-12-2018, 07:17 AM
Running totals----8 0 frames
8 1 frames
4 2 frames

Total count to date 20 guns.

Rich Anderson
12-12-2018, 07:30 AM
Randy thats a good question. I'll weigh mine today and post results. I'm taking Ike out for a hunt then back in time to trade the Parker for a rifle for an afternoon deer hunt.

Randy G Roberts
12-12-2018, 07:54 AM
Randy thats a good question. I'll weigh mine today and post results. I'm taking Ike out for a hunt then back in time to trade the Parker for a rifle for an afternoon deer hunt.

Hopefully others will "weigh in" with the weights of their 2 frame guns. Enjoy the hunting.

Dave Noreen
12-12-2018, 09:49 AM
My gun is an 1889 vintage heavy 2-frame, 32-inch Damascus barrel, 12-gauge, GH-Grade that got a set of 32-inch, 20-gauge, 3-inch chamber, Vulcan Steel barrels in the 1918 to 1926 time frame. I get the time frame for the 20-gauge barrels from the fact they have the CT, U.S.A. rib legend but don't have the Overload Proved stamp. With the 20-gauge barrels weighs 8 pounds 4.5 ounces.

Larry Frey
12-12-2018, 05:16 PM
Hope you don't mind me inquiring on this within your thread Rich but I would be curious as to the weight of these 2 frame guns. The general question seems to follow your original scope of interest on the thread.

Randy,
My 2 frame 20 has an unstruck barrel weight of 4# 11oz and a finished weight of 4# 4oz. Its a straight grip no safety gun that weights in at just under 8# 8oz. Definitely not an upland gun but man does she crush clays.

Scott Smith
12-12-2018, 06:03 PM
I attended an estate sale in 2004 and foolishly passed on VHE 202,247, a 32” 20 ga on a 1 frame. It had a Parker trap style stock. I did not record the chamber depth. To compound my error I also passed on Fox Super 30,070 (Burt Becker) 12/32 3 inch, damaged stock. The Parker sold for $1200, and the Fox sold for $925. Live and learn.

Dean Romig
12-12-2018, 06:06 PM
The Parker sold for $1200, and the Fox sold for $925. Live and learn.

...I sure hope so.:whistle:





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Dean Romig
12-12-2018, 06:07 PM
Randy,
My 2 frame 20 has an unstruck barrel weight of 4# 11oz and a finished weight of 4# 4oz. Its a straight grip no safety gun that weights in at just under 8# 8oz. Definitely not an upland gun but man does she crush clays.

Larry, I think you need to bring that beauty to the New Year's Day shoot at Major Waldron's.





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charlie cleveland
12-12-2018, 06:07 PM
csott that hurts me just reading about the price of these 2 guns.....charlie

Scott Smith
12-12-2018, 06:11 PM
I had a young family and serious bills. I had just purchased a Model 21 the night before. Wish I had a do-over.

Larry Frey
12-12-2018, 06:15 PM
Larry, I think you need to bring that beauty to the New Year's Day shoot at Major Waldron's..

To back-up the 10's?:duck:

Dean Romig
12-12-2018, 06:21 PM
Absotivly!! :clap::cheers:





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Randy G Roberts
12-12-2018, 06:50 PM
My gun is an 1889 vintage heavy 2-frame, 32-inch Damascus barrel, 12-gauge, GH-Grade that got a set of 32-inch, 20-gauge, 3-inch chamber, Vulcan Steel barrels in the 1918 to 1926 time frame. I get the time frame for the 20-gauge barrels from the fact they have the CT, U.S.A. rib legend but don't have the Overload Proved stamp. With the 20-gauge barrels weighs 8 pounds 4.5 ounces.

Thanks for the info Larry. I bet that gun is a blast on the clays course. Outweighs my 1 frame by almost a pound.

scott kittredge
12-12-2018, 06:56 PM
Mine is a
32 in. On a 0 frame

Rich Anderson
12-12-2018, 08:53 PM
My BHE with straight grip, splinter, SST (Miller) to a pad weighs exactly 7lbs. O frame.

Michael Moffa
12-12-2018, 09:08 PM
What about short barelled 2 frame 20's?

Reggie Bishop
12-13-2018, 12:26 PM
10-0 frames
08-1 frames
05 2 frames

23 totals to date

Rich Anderson
12-13-2018, 12:38 PM
Reggie thanks for doing the tabulations. The 0 frame is more prevalent than I would have thought.

Reggie Bishop
12-13-2018, 02:01 PM
Rich I am surprised by that as well.

Dean Romig
12-13-2018, 02:17 PM
What no 1 1/2 frames?





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Randy G Roberts
12-13-2018, 02:32 PM
[QUOTE=Dean Romig;260307]What no 1 1/2 frames?

My thoughts exactly. Made me look at the frame size by gauge on the website to be sure it was offered.

Ed Blake
12-13-2018, 02:52 PM
My #2 frame DH has an unstruck barrel weight of 5.2 lbs.

Mills Morrison
12-13-2018, 04:14 PM
Rock Island had a GH 20 with 32" barrels on a 0 frame. The serial number would have put it in the mid teens or so. I was sorry I lost out on it

Kevin McCormack
12-16-2018, 08:45 PM
I attended an estate sale in 2004 and foolishly passed on VHE 202,247, a 32” 20 ga on a 1 frame. It had a Parker trap style stock. I did not record the chamber depth. To compound my error I also passed on Fox Super 30,070 (Burt Becker) 12/32 3 inch, damaged stock. The Parker sold for $1200, and the Fox sold for $925. Live and learn.

!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHAT WERE YOU THINKING!?

Ed Blake
12-17-2018, 06:47 AM
I wish you had not told that. My head hurts

Bill Murphy
12-18-2018, 06:18 AM
This thread may help me recover my 20 gauge VH #2 frame #153,333, 8 pounds, ball grip. It and my present #2 frame are east coast guns from the same Boston dealer, Orren R. Dickey. I have an O frame 32" 20 gauge A-1 Special, but am missing the back end.

Dean Romig
12-18-2018, 07:13 AM
Bill, if you want your above post to come up in a search someone does for that serial number you need to edit it to eliminate both commas and the # sign. The serial number must stand alone with a space on either end.





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Dean Romig
12-18-2018, 07:30 AM
I have an O frame 32" 20 gauge A-1 Special, but am missing the back end.

Is it a set of Whitworth barrels that you have?





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Patrick Lien
12-18-2018, 10:34 AM
I have an O frame 32" 20 gauge A-1 Special, but am missing the back end.

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