Doubling?

[Rick Riddell]

Anyone experience their gun doubling? I had it happen twice today....scared the life out of me! What may be some causes for it doubling?

[edgarspencer]

Rick, Single trigger or double trigger?

[CraigThompson]

I had a 16 gauge Trojan thirty years ago that doubled on me a few times . And it went down the road .

[Mills Morrison]

If you have a Super Fox double on 3 inch shells, you can join a club no one needs to join. That hurt even worse than my 10 gauge Parker doubling

[charlie cleveland]

i belong to that doubles club with an ole 10 ga...rough on the body....charlie

[Rick Riddell]

Double trigger, Parker Trojan. The only thing I can think of is the rear tang screw was tightened down pretty tight as it was proud coming out the top behind the safety. I loosened it back down, I'll get it out again and see if thats the ticket! Mills that 10 must have been loud!

[Steve Huffman]

I had a 16 gauge Trojan thirty years ago that doubled on me a few times . And it went down the road .

Just wonder if you told the next guy ?

[Mills Morrison]

It probably needs a good cleaning by a good gunsmith

[bobutler]

Yep, that will wake you up when that happens. Happened to me in the flooded timber two weeks ago with my VHE12 that had never given me a speck of trouble. Only happened once.
I had a piece of tape on my trigger finger knuckle to pad it from getting banged up by the front trigger when I shot the left barrel. I tend to use too much finger tip when pulling the trigger. Well in trying to figure out what happened, I think the edge of the tape caught on the front trigger when I pulled the rear and both went off.
My fix was easy - ripped the tape off. Hope your fix is as easy.

[Randy G Roberts]

Search the forum. There's a recent thread on this exact topic with DT's as I recall.

[Gerald McPherson]

Yes that was me I'm sure. Mine is a 1914 Vh that had never been taken apart. I had thought about it needed cleaning but never got around to doing it. It doubled about five times opening day of dove season so I put it away and used another one. It had doubled once last year. That should have been enough of a warning. After cleaning i discovered the stock had cracked. Although it did not appear to be real dirty cleaning seems to have taken care of the problem. I sure hated the crack because that one is my all time favorite. I think if one doubles once it is wise not to shoot it until the problem is taken care of. We live and learn.

[Rick Riddell]

Search the forum. There's a recent thread on this exact topic with DT's as I recall.

My tablet won't allow me to use the drop down for searches, I do apologize for a duplicate thread!

[Richard Flanders]

When my VH 12 doubled, it only did it when I pulled the rear trigger first, which told me that the front sear, which had always gotten the most use, was worn. I dismantled it and 'sharpened' the front sear a bit and it was fixed. I'd guess that this issue and just being grotty inside are the main causes of doubling. And this issue has been discussed at length in the forum.

[Rick Riddell]

It probably needs a good cleaning by a good gunsmith

Hey Mills it's clean, no crud or gunk in it, everything was oiled properly. I took it apart last night. My guess is it has replacement stock and the upper tang sits deep and that allows the rear tang screw to become proud. When that happens it brings the trigger plate up from the bottom and allows the triggers to press on the sears. I think with that pressure and recoil from the shot it engages the sears just enough to allow it to slip or the sear spring is getting weak. I think my first goal is to get the wood raised along the upper tang and see if that helps. Next step....new sear spring! I will say it's an eye opener when it does double, poor duck didn't stand a chance!
Thanks
Guys!

[edgarspencer]

The only thing I can think of is the rear tang screw was tightened down pretty tight as it was proud coming out the top behind the safety. I loosened it back down...

Which direction do you turn a screwdriver in order to loosen it back down?:vconfused:

[Rick Riddell]

Which direction do you turn a screwdriver in order to loosen it back down?:vconfused:

Ha Ha Nice, the screw back down level with the top tang? I guess that's a better way of saying it? Yikes, one is going down and the other is going up and vice versa, I guess it depends on what way you are looking at it, upside down?

[Gerald McPherson]

Righty tighty lefty loosey.

[Eric Johanen]

All good advise. I doubled my Grant twice on consecutive outings and it sacred me too. I dismounted the locks and could not find anything amiss. My opinion is that it was the first time using it since a long period in for repair and I had been too lax in my grip. After that I consciously applied a little more pressure on my grip and problem solved. Just a simple adjustment in using the gun. Strumming the rear trigger is a easy check for a problem that has not occurred before and when it happens is the first thing I'd think about. If nothing seems off, adjusting the grip pressure could be the cause for the problem.

[edgarspencer]

The joy of buying back a single trigger DHE 20 that my dad had traded away, was somewhat diminished when I had three doubles at the first four stations one day. I let others shoot it and no one was able to make it double, so I chocked it up to being a double trigger guy and not gripping the gun more tightly. That gun and I are not presently on speaking terms.

[Rick Riddell]

Thanks guys I got it fixed, unfortunately the POI changed as I whiffed on two grouse this evening! :)

[Mills Morrison]

Doubling is a real pain in the butt. Often takes several trips to the gunsmith to get fixed. My Super Fox has that problem now

[charlie cleveland]

hope this doubeling is not catching....ha charlie

[edgarspencer]

hope this doubeling is not catching....ha charlie

Doubling is a real pain in the butt. Often takes several trips to the gunsmith

Butt ? Charlie would be making several trips to the orthopedic surgeon if his 8 doubled on him a few times

[Scott Gentry]

Had my DH 10 double on me while hunting ducks in a layout blind, when I regained my wits all I saw was stars and feathers from the incoming mallard that received both charges.
Worn sear was culprit, bit of stoning and all good.

[Charles Shelton]

Happened first time out with my big brother with Parker VH 20 gauge. Dove on a pipeline and me with fingers on BOTH triggers! First shot went under pipe and second over. Dove flew away and THEN brother told me to NEVER use but one finger on triggers. More embarrassed than scared, but it has never happened again on any of three Parkers or two double rifles, all with double triggers.

[Randy G Roberts]

I have had it happen a few times over the years with various guns. I usually shoot lighter loads for targets so usually not to bad. However there was the time in SD on a pheasant hunt years ago with a Win M-21 20 gauge Magnum (30", F/F, 3" chambers) when I was shooting 3" Remington Nitro Pheasant loads with 1 1/4 of #5. Doubled on me twice and it got my attention both times. Time to swap guns out !