34" BHE-Gunbroker

[Randy G Roberts]

I believe this one was for sale some time ago and now it is listed as a no reserve auction. What a great gun it must have been back in the day. To bad it has been modified extensively. Still going to make a great fun gun for someone. Link posted below...

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/792614107

[Jerry Harlow]

With the DelGrego pad I would assume that they did work on the gun. There is a big weep hole in the barrel lower rib under the forend. Is it typical for DelGrego to believe in drilling weep holes to remove all moisture during a reblue? Are there other examples of DelGrego drilling holes on guns members own?

Just curious on the debate why some gunsmiths believe to drill. I know there is the opinion not to drill, but some disagree having seen the damage by mositure left behind from previous bluing jobs, when the relay ribs.

TIA

[Chris Travinski]

This gun was sold in the same venue by Ironman Arms a few weeks ago. There was some debate on this forum about weather or not the barrels were sleeved, it now mentions in the description that they were monoblocked.

[Randy G Roberts]

This gun was sold in the same venue by Ironman Arms a few weeks ago. There was some debate on this forum about weather or not the barrels were sleeved, it now mentions in the description that they were monoblocked.

That was a different gun that was sold by them a few weeks ago. It was a very similar gun but it was a 2 barrel set, also a different serial number.

[Chris Travinski]

I stand corrected, I do recall that being a two barrel set.

[Jay Oliver]

I looked at this a few times today. Even though it has had a lot of work done to it, I really like it. If it was monoblocked that means that the barrels were replaced from the chambers forward right? I wonder why they did that and then reverse choked it? I would have to trade a few to pull it off and the timing isn't right, but I really like that gun :)

[charlie cleveland]

if this gun was a 3 inch chambered gun what a water fowl gun it would have made...make a good turkey gun too....charlie

[Mills Morrison]

There has been a bumper crop of B grades on the market recently.

[Randy G Roberts]

[QUOTE=Jay Oliver;259418]I looked at this a few times today. Even though it has had a lot of work done to it, I really like it. If it was monoblocked that means that the barrels were replaced from the chambers forward right? I wonder why they did that and then reverse choked it? I would have to trade a few to pull it off and the timing isn't right, but I really like that gun :)[/QUOTE

Jay you MAY be surprised at how little this gun brings. You never know with an auction. I'm surprised at the Rock Island results. IMO there were some really good buys.

[Joe Graziano]

You are right about auctions. You never know. I rarely find good deals with RIA, but there were quite a few this time and I picked up something:) I will post pics once it’s in hand. I noticed as the bidding began, many of the guns weren’t making their low estimate, some not making their opening bid price. It was a rare RIA buyer’s market.

[Randy G Roberts]

Might also just be a sign of the times and market conditions Joe. Time will tell.
Looking forward to seeing your new toy, congrats on whatever it is.

[Bill Murphy]

I also would like to see Joe's gun, but real good guns continue to sell for what they should.

[Mills Morrison]

I bid on two guns in the Rock Island auction and was outbid on both. Where are the results posted?

[Bill Murphy]

Mills, you can go on the site now and see the results. I did and was not real happy.

[Mills Morrison]

Thanks Bill.

[Randy G Roberts]

You can also register on Proxibid and then watch particular guns that you are interested in. From what I can see you will have pretty much real-time results available.

[David Lien]

I looked at this a few times today. Even though it has had a lot of work done to it, I really like it. If it was monoblocked that means that the barrels were replaced from the chambers forward right? I wonder why they did that and then reverse choked it? I would have to trade a few to pull it off and the timing isn't right, but I really like that gun :)

Jay, You and I like the same kind of girls. This one is easy to like.
First off, that rib and barrel work looks to me like it was done at that old gun shop in Lee-Center NY. (Just my opinion). We own, and have seen a few of their ribs, always top shelf work.

I would like to know the point of impact of that open barrel on the left side. Maybe it shoots a little high.??? (Doubles Gun)????? Someone went to some serious expense here, and it was not to build a "pretty boy gun". This BHE Parker was a SERIOUS DEDICATED TOOL. I would bet in the hands of a SHOOTER it would still carry it's own weight today.
Could be, maybe all that work done to this old Parker will keep the
Quarterbacks, and Cheerleaders out of the bidding. David

[Austin J Hawthorne Jr.]

I don't mean to stray to far from the original OP, but since reverse choking was mentioned...How common was that?

[Michael Linn]

Who knows the numbers of pigeons shot, targets broken, and the amount of dollars this Parker may have won! Owning a Parker like this would be like owning Hank Aaron’s record setting bat. This Parker is truly a piece of shotgunning history!

[Alfred Greeson]

There is another fabulous BH on GunBroker now that some member needs to get. It has less than two days to go with no reserve. The book says it is one of only three in its configuration. If this is posted wrong, please correct it so our guys see it.

[Jerry Harlow]

Sold $6526.00

[John Davis]

The heart wants what the heart wants.

[Bill Murphy]

John, maybe you could elaborate, but I think I wanted that one. The provenance is worth more than the selling price. The only problem is that you, I, and the buyer are the only ones that understand and appreciate the provenance. I would like to meet the guy who bought the two B grade guns.

[John Davis]

Bill, that makes only two of us because I am the buyer. I loved the gun. A trap shooters dream and the provenance sealed the deal. I had to have her. I'm a sucker and "the heart wants what the heart wants."

[Reggie Bishop]

Awesome buy John!

[Jim DiSpagno]

An early Christmas present John. Well done and maybe Mike Franzen can collaborate with you an a Parker Pages article. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year my friend

[Randy G Roberts]

Congrats and Merry Christmas John. Hope you enjoy it. I assume/hope we'll see it at the Southern??

[Bill Murphy]

John, I knew that you and I are the only potential bidders who could appreciate that provenance. Second question, did you buy the two barrel set also?

[John Davis]

Bill, I did not buy the two barrel BH but was very tempted. Timing wasn't quite right for me. All the more reason I just couldn't let this one get away. The Kimble/Voorhees connection was strong. During my Kimble research I had contact with the Voorhees family and was aware of the existence of these guns. Unfortunately, my contact is no longer available so it's going to take a little more digging to really research this gun. I do know that about 4 months after D. W. Voorhees (Sr. or Jr.?) received the gun, D. W. Jr. won the Chicago Board of Trade medal at the Illinois State shoot, which was held in Peoria. D. W. Sr. was presiding president of the State Association during the tournament.

"Investigation continues." EDM

[Dean Romig]

I wish I could hit that “like” button a few more times.





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[Joe Graziano]

Bill, Randy, I posted pics of my RIA acquisition, a V. Bernardelli 20 ga, on the Other Fine Doubles page.

[John Davis]

The big 12 gauge arrived yesterday and I took her out today for a hundred 16 yard singles. Really nice gun. Despite the massive 3 frame, 34 inch vent rib barrels and all the girth (weighs almost as much as me), she swings quite smoothly. And she crushes targets. Virtually no recoil with lighter loads and very little with handicaps. Going to be a lot of fun shooting her.

[Dean Romig]

Have you measured the chokes John?






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[Mills Morrison]

Good job John

[Russ Jackson]

Congrats on a Good Buy John , That is a Beautiful Gun !

[John Davis]

Dean, all I have is a Galazan brass choke gauge. According to it, Right barrel extra full, left barrel full. The gun was advertised as Right barrel full and left improved modified. That's probably correct. Perhaps someone will bring more scientific equipment to the Southern and we can measure them accurately there. I will say that I seem to be picking up more targets at 16 yards with the left barrel over the right. Still experimenting. And still trying to figure out the advantage of reverse choking in trap. Don't see how it helps in doubles. Perhaps it was somehow advantageous in pigeon shooting?

[Randy G Roberts]

Hey John let's put a squad of 34's together at the Southern for a practice round. Oughta be fun. Hope you enjoy your gun.

[Dean Romig]

The only advantage to reverse choking that I can think of is in pass shooting ducks.





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[John Davis]

Dean, I agree. The Voorhee's were big duck hunters and members of the Duck Island Club outside of Peoria. But I would not have tagged this as a duck gun. However, it does have 3 inch chambers and could probably digest about any load you put down her. Maybe I'll take her out to the duck pond behind the house one morning this week and try her out for some double duty.

[John Davis]

This gun has had quite a bit of work done to it over the years. The stock was changed to add a cheek piece but that is documented in the Parker records. A beaver tail for-end was added and it appears to be factory work. The for-end iron is definetly for a beaver tail and it has the reinforcement rod. A vent rib was added and it is matted as a Parker rib should be but with no inscription like most Remington Parker's. And the barrels are monobloc but still measure 34 inches in length as original. I know Delgrego did some work on it at some point. I also know that according to the stamped repair codes that the gun was sent to the Remington repair shop for work in 1939, 1940 and 1941. Just don't know what work was performed.

Investigation continues. JND

[John Davis]

One other interesting observation. The gold is absolutely worn off the front trigger but still bright and shiny on the back trigger, as if the back trigger was rarely used. Which leads me back around to singles and handicap trap.

[Bill Murphy]

John, contact the seller and find out the name of the owner in the last 50 or so years. That may be the name you can submit to Del Grego for documentation of the barrel work. As others have guessed, it could be Del Grego or Frank Lefever and Sons. The rib looks very professional, but not Parker factory. I'm guessing Lefever.