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David Dwyer
12-01-2018, 07:17 AM
I love RST shells!
I have shot them exclusively for several years and
have never had a issue. I also enjoy Morris but...
I just ordered 8 flats to find my price went up an unbelievable 42% !!!! The very nice young lady explained they had not been making much money the past couple years and went up on their prices. UGG!!! Can anyone suggest a good low pressure, low recall alternative?? Sorry Morris.
David

Dean Romig
12-01-2018, 07:47 AM
42%...???

So for a flat of shells that was $112 plus shipping we will now be paying almost $150 plus shipping???

Morris has held his prices very well for a long time and an increase was inevitable but sheesh... :shock:






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Ed Blake
12-01-2018, 08:23 AM
I love RST shells!
I have shot them exclusively for several years and
have never had a issue. I also enjoy Morris but...
I just ordered 8 flats to find my price went up an unbelievable 42% !!!! The very nice young lady explained they had not been making much money the past couple years and went up on their prices. UGG!!! Can anyone suggest a good low pressure, low recall alternative?? Sorry Morris.
David

David - I’ll sell you a MEC 9000 for the price of one flat of RSTs and you can roll your own. I also have a MEC Grabber in 20 gauge. Teach a man to fish....

Eric Eis
12-01-2018, 08:39 AM
David, just took a quick glance at their website, 28 ga shells still show at 120 a flat which is up ten bucks, what did you order? If they have jumped prices that much I'll also be looking for a new vendor. Maybe Polywad

Garth Gustafson
12-01-2018, 08:51 AM
I’ve been buying 16 ga individual boxes of ultra lite and spreaders from RST for years. Both are up a buck a box in the past month, less than 10%.

Rich Anderson
12-01-2018, 12:06 PM
I have used Clever shells in 20 and 12 gauge. The 20's I use are 3/4 oz at 1150 FPS and the 12 is a 7/8 oz load also about 1150. I don't know the pressures but they are a mild shooting shell. I have only used them in fluid steel barreled guns.

Brian Dudley
12-01-2018, 12:12 PM
From what I understand, they were making the habbit of giving dealer pricing to a lot of people who were not dealers, or hardly volume buyers at that. I know they have stopped this recently. So maybe that is the large difference in price that Dave speaks of.

Jay Oliver
12-01-2018, 06:40 PM
On the some of the shells I see the they have gone from $11 to $12 a box. Did your shipping cost more...which lead to the higher overall cost? I just ordered a few flats of 16's for the new to me Parker I'll post about as soon as I get it.

I think the only other alternative is Polywad or to reload. I am reloading now for 12 and 10 gauge. RST's 7/8 and 3/4 12 gauge loads are great. If you don't reload I think RST is probably the best option even with their recent price increase, which I didn't even notice until I saw this thread. They have a great selection in every gauge and shipping is quick.

Robert Rambler
12-01-2018, 07:21 PM
Morris has done a lot for our shooting community through the years, and a company has to make a profit to stay in business. I'am sure their cost for components have increased just like everything else. I would hate to see the RST line of shells go away. So if a price increase is needed to keep us all supplied with first class shells for our favorite guns, so be it.

Austin J Hawthorne Jr.
12-01-2018, 07:58 PM
Double what Robert said.

Mills Morrison
12-01-2018, 09:09 PM
The cost of clay targets has gone up too. Tough times

John Dallas
12-01-2018, 10:15 PM
I wonder if his price increase reflects the apparent softening in the interest/usage/price of old SxS guns (and therefore the usave of his shells.) Sorry

Joe Graziano
12-01-2018, 11:02 PM
I’ve changed my opinion on this over the past few months. RST is invaluable to our little double gun community. I’ll buy my 2 1/2 in 16 gauge RST paper shells for the Belgian hammer gun and 2 1/2 in 12 ga shells for my Parker lifter. I’ll hapoily pay a bit more to keep RST in business.

David Dwyer
12-02-2018, 08:52 AM
I agree with what Robert said also but an increased cost to me of that amount is unacceptable. I was purchasing about 50 flats a year and had been for several years . They did extend to me a good discount on shells and shipping that I feel was justified for purchasing that volume. It Morris's business and he needs to make money but...
David

Brian Dudley
12-02-2018, 09:12 AM
Well... there you have it.

Good to hear that they are starting to stick to dealer pricing going to actual dealers. That is the way it should be. Offering too many discounts to too many retail buyers always ends up biting any business in the butt eventually.

Bruce Day
12-02-2018, 09:47 AM
You mean that some individuals who are not dealers were able to buy RST shells at lower prices than other others? I always paid the list price and would not think to ask for a dealer
price because I am not a dealer and do not resell.

Did I pay too much? I guess I feel kind of foolish now by not getting the discount others did .

I don’t mind a quantity discount if there are reduced handling and shipping costs but with RST I don’t generally see that situation unless there is an order for thousands.

Eric Eis
12-02-2018, 09:55 AM
Well... there you have it.

Good to hear that they are starting to stick to dealer pricing going to actual dealers. That is the way it should be. Offering too many discounts to too many retail buyers always ends up biting any business in the butt eventually.

Fifty flats might just qualify for a discount........

Rich Anderson
12-02-2018, 10:03 AM
I knew I should have bought two flats of 12ga 2 inch paper shells last year:banghead:

Ken Hill
12-02-2018, 11:33 AM
Rich,

It looks like the 2" papers went up quite a bit. The bird numbers are down where I go so I'm not using a lot of shells.

Ken

Dean Romig
12-02-2018, 11:55 AM
I would never ask Morris for a discount and I don't think I have ever received one either.
Heck, he gives so much to the PGCA and its several venues each year I would be embarrassed to ask for more. I know his generosity doesn't benefit me directly but it benefits all of us and enriches our shotgunning lives considerably.





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Ed Blake
12-02-2018, 01:03 PM
50 flats ain’t chicken feed guys. If I were buying that many flats a year I’d ask for a discount too. I don’t get the mindset of not asking for discount on large purchases.

charlie cleveland
12-02-2018, 02:13 PM
dean that is a good post you just made...charlie

Gary Laudermilch
12-02-2018, 03:48 PM
I just heard that Graf & Sons, the importer of Vectan powders will cease importing them because of tariff increases. I am sure RST uses Vectan powder in at least some of their shells along with other imported components. I would not be surprised that RST if feeling the tariff squeeze.

Thirteen bucks a box for RSTs or $4 per box for quality reloads. Hmmm!

John Davis
12-02-2018, 06:53 PM
Speaking of RST. Has anyone tried the new 2 3/4 inch paper Trap shells?

Randy G Roberts
12-03-2018, 08:20 AM
Took a quick glance at the 16 gauge 7/8 and 1 ounce loads which is primarily
what I use in the RST line. As mentioned earlier in this thread the cost did increase one dollar per box to $12, however the cost per flat is still at $110 which is what they were previously.

Dean Romig
12-03-2018, 09:02 AM
So by buying the flat you get the ‘quantity discount’.





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Mills Morrison
12-03-2018, 09:31 AM
Speaking of RST. Has anyone tried the new 2 3/4 inch paper Trap shells?

No, but I saw those as well.

Rich Anderson
12-03-2018, 02:35 PM
I see that Ken. A flat of 2 inch paper is up to $150 but I only use them on grouse and quail so a flat lasts a long time. Better to have them and not need them than to need them and not have them.

Bill Holcombe
12-05-2018, 08:32 AM
Well it must not be too big of a hurdle for buyers, they are currently sold out of the paper 2.5 12g spreaders at 150 a pallet. When I looked the other day they were available.

Jim Pasman
12-05-2018, 08:37 AM
Speaking of RST. Has anyone tried the new 2 3/4 inch paper Trap shells?

Yes, John, great shells as expected. Have they improved my scores.....? Let's say they haven't hurt them.