The Du Bray AAH. What was the Result?

[Bill Murphy]

It should be sold by now. Was anyone watching?

[Wayne Owens]

I believe it sold for $45k without buyers premium. A steal in my opinion.

[Mills Morrison]

Did it meet the reserve? Going from memory, but that is around the low estimate, if not below

[Josh Loewensteiner]

Its sold.

[Mills Morrison]

It is a beautiful gun. It was great seeing it at the Vintagers.

[Brian Dudley]

A sign of the times when a gun like that does not meet the low estimate...

But the 23% BP will make things look a little better in future advertising... about $56,000.

[Josh Loewensteiner]

The buyers premium is 20%.

[Brian Dudley]

After cash/check discount it is 20%. 23% for cards. At least that is what the terms on the website told me yesterday morning.

[Bill Murphy]

The best Parker any of us will buy for $56,000. We may see it again.

[Dean Romig]

A sad day that this esteemed one of a kind (3 sets of factory documented barrels on a 1 of 5 pigeon gun) sold so cheaply...a sad day indeed.

It was said to me when I made reference to the documented duBray provenance that nobody even knew who buBray was until EDM brought his history to the forefront 10 or 12 years ago, so that provenance shouldn’t weigh very heavily into the bidding...
My arguement to that was that the duBray history is well-known (even if it is because of EDM’s research) probably by every member of the PGCA as well as many who are not members.

I will say only that I am shocked.






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[Brian Dudley]

Take for instance the AA hammer that sold at Wooten and Wooten about 6 months ago.

The gun had a non-original buttstock, very poor photos and description on the auction so condition was hard to establish, it had one barrel set and had no provanance.
And that one sold for only about $10k less than the Dubray gun!

[Robin Lewis]

AA fluid steel Parker's: I had the opportunity to buy one back in the 1990's for 49K and then Jack Puglisi had one for sale just before he passed (2010/11 I think) and when I talked to him about it he told me he was asking 125K. All to rich for me.

I too am very surprised at this sale price. I expected it to surpass the Czar's gun; after all, it has stronger provenance and there were fewer of them made than A1S;and it is just as impressive to behold as any A1S (IMHO).



The Czar's gun was made for him but never delivered but duBray had this custom fit to him and used it!

[Dean Romig]

Typo Alert.... “Zara’s” should be Czar’s gun.





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[Dave Noreen]

Six months ago the market was hot. Now we are in the midst of a "correction."

[Dean Romig]

I rather think INcorrection is more appropriate in this particular case.





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[Victor Wasylyna]

Those surprised that an anachronism with Parker-specific provenance sold for a mere (whopping?) $54k would be well advised to carefully read and consider John Campbell’s current post in the “off topic” section of this forum.

-Victor

[Dean Romig]

I have.





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[Patrick Lien]

I think it sold for exactly what it was worth in the world today. High or low, it had one or two bidders that wanted it for their COLLECTION. I would GUESS it was one bidder and the auction house bidding low estimate but I am only guessing. It is a very very small market for 50K american hammer guns. I think you guys are blowing smoke on "it sold cheap". Fat Jack P and 250K screaming bids for RARE parkers are in the past and it only happened once. Show me a comp, show me a 50K Parker hammer gun in the past 2-5 years. I don't follow hammer guns but I don't recall seeing one. Just my opinion so rage if you like but I want to see a comp too.

PML

[Reggie Bishop]

If it sold so cheap I am sure one of our members purchased it? Surely one of us would not let a bargain pass by?

[Ed Blake]

Six months ago the market was hot. Now we are in the midst of a "correction."

The correction started several years ago with the 12 gauge shooter grade stuff. The high grade stuff has held its value longer but even that has to face the reckoning of the market. $56k is still a lot of money where I come from. It’s a buyers market

[Bill Mullins]

In any "market" there are only a handful of individuals that have the discretionary income and desire to pay $50k plus for a used shotgun. 😊

[Kevin McCormack]

I am not surprised at the outcome at all. I examined the gun closely at the Vintage Cup when it was on display there and came back periodically to catch things I may have missed earlier. I found a certain degree of non-excitement in the fact that the gun's documentation described having been sent back to the factory for restocking, new barrel sets, choke alterations and the like. This seemed to diminish the image on face of this being Du Bray's 'personal' and/or 'favorite' gun. Was it in fact one or both, or was it the product of a quest to build the perfect pigeon gun to score that one additional bird, and that may have ultimately become a more appealing example to prospective buyers that DuBray often pitched to at the bigger shoots? I found that very interesting to contemplate.

[Mills Morrison]

The B 8 gauge appealed to me more than the DuBray gun. I am biased, of course

[Dean Romig]

I am not surprised at the outcome at all. I examined the gun closely at the Vintage Cup when it was on display there and came back periodically to catch things I may have missed earlier. I found a certain degree of non-excitement in the fact that the gun's documentation described having been sent back to the factory for restocking, new barrel sets, choke alterations and the like. This seemed to diminish the image on face of this being Du Bray's 'personal' and/or 'favorite' gun. Was it in fact one or both, or was it the product of a quest to build the perfect pigeon gun to score that one additional bird, and that may have ultimately become a more appealing example to prospective buyers that DuBray often pitched to at the bigger shoots? I found that very interesting to contemplate.

And why not? It was, after all, duBray's gun to do as he pleased. If it was to kill one more bird, why not? It's all part of the provenance.





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[Chuck Bishop]

I was watching the live bidding for a while but after the DuBray gun sold. The majority of the guns didn't bring the low estimate.

[Reggie Bishop]

It looked like at least one of the reproduction guns sold well above the minimum, not sure about how they did overall?

[Brian Dudley]

Whoever, this morning, bought the cased repro 28g 2bbl set for $3,250 got a hell of a buy!

[Mills Morrison]

Whoa! That was a good buy, assuming nothing was wrong with it.

[Bill Murphy]

What did the unengraved Repros bring?

[Brian Dudley]

$3,000, $3,250, $3,500 (one barrel) and $6,000 (the two barrel set).

I bought two of them. A 26” and a 28”.

[Kirk Potter]

$3,000, $3,250, $3,500 (one barrel) and $6,000 (the two barrel set).

I bought two of them. A 26” and a 28”.

Nice!

Guess I need to pay more attention to these auctions.