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Drew Hause
10-06-2018, 09:34 AM
Was a "Brush Gun" ever offered?

October 5, 1911 Sporting Life
http://library.la84.org/SportsLibrary/SportingLife/1911/VOL_58_NO_05/SL5805020.PDF
"Shoot the finest brush gun made."

http://pic20.picturetrail.com:80/VOL1373/6511424/24189170/414018733.jpg

Outdoor Recreation, 1918
“Parker Brush Gun”
https://books.google.com/books?id=0Hs7AQAAMAAJ&pg=PA379&lpg

Tom Flanigan
10-06-2018, 10:18 AM
That is a very interesting ad Drew. This is the first time I have ever seen a Parker referred to as a brush gun in its advertising. Usually long range and handling is touted in advertising. The Parker brush gun that I would order if it was 1927 would be a 16 bore, 28 or 30 inch barrels bored cylinder and improved cylinder. That would be my dream brush gun.

Tom Flanigan
10-06-2018, 10:20 AM
Meant to say 1918 in my post. Thanks for posting this type of stuff Drew. It is very interesting.

Gerald McPherson
10-06-2018, 10:47 AM
Looks like high brass for the brush gun. HHHUUUUMMMMM. That will get through the brush

Tom Flanigan
10-06-2018, 10:51 AM
OMG!! Shooting high brass in the brush. I'll bet that gun has cracks behind the tang today.

Drew Hause
10-06-2018, 11:19 AM
That same "high brass" illustration was used in Sporting Life ads starting at least 1909

http://pic20.picturetrail.com:80/VOL1373/6511424/24189170/413971292.jpg

Dave Noreen
10-06-2018, 11:54 AM
Those three rings around the top of the high brass is the Winchester LEADER shell which was offered in a "Brush" version.

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The Western RECORD shell had a knurling style in the high brass --

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Remington - UMC's high brass ARROW shell used the company name crimping the brass --

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Peters Cartridge Co. used a different style of knurling on their high brass PREMIER and IDEAL shells --

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Richard Flanders
10-06-2018, 12:01 PM
Maybe brushes are hard to kill??

Dean Romig
10-06-2018, 12:31 PM
Wish I had some of those “Brush” shells this morning..... I came back to camp with five empties of Morris’ best “Paper Lites” with nothing to show for it. It’s doggone hard to see through the foliage this time of year. Actually, I’m sure the RST’s did their job... I just couldn’t uphold my end of the bargain... or maybe it was the Fox I was shooting.

Yeah, that’s it - it was the gun’s fault!





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Dave Noreen
10-06-2018, 12:41 PM
Back in the day, high brass indicated the quality of the shell, not necessarily a heavy load. Here from the 1915-16 Remington Arms - Union Metallic Cartridge Co. catalog one can see the wide range of 12-gauge loads from 2 1/2 drams pushing 1 ounce of shot to 3 1/2 drams pushing 1 1/4 ounce of shot available in their high brass ARROW shell --

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All of those same loads were offered in the low brass NITRO CLUB shell except the 10A and 10F loads.

CraigThompson
10-06-2018, 01:02 PM
Maybe brushes are hard to kill??

I’m pretty sure “brush” like “dove” can be both singular and plural :rolleyes:

Rick Riddell
10-07-2018, 07:22 AM
So does "brush gun" in the ad just reference any 26" open choked barrels?

charlie cleveland
10-07-2018, 09:41 AM
them fellas sure new how to name a gun...brush gun versus long range gun sure wish they had inscribed this on the gun....charlie

Drew Hause
10-07-2018, 02:41 PM
"The Small Bore Shotgun" p. 10
http://parkerguns.org/pages/PDF%20Documents/Small%20Bore%20Shotgun.pdf
"For all kinds of shooting in the brush..."

No specific mention of a Parker "Brush Gun"

Harold Lee Pickens
10-08-2018, 09:48 PM
Happy to hear you are in camp Dean, be sure and post some pictures>

Dean Romig
10-08-2018, 10:39 PM
Woke up at "grouse camp" Saturday morning to a beautiful sunrise and right away I just knew it would be a great day. First two pics are from the open door of camp.

Grace made some really nice points on both grouse and woodcock but I just couldn't connect. In fact, I fired both barrels at a towering, twittering, corkscrewing woodcock that didn't level off until it was about thirty feet straight over my head.... both barrels...

And she pointed two other woodcock and several grouse but all we could get were sporadic glimpses of the birds in the sparse openings in the foliage.

My brother-in-law Jamie connected on a woodcock and one grouse - a big male with impressive black ruffs.

My grandson Cam didn't connect either despite firing six shots at departing grouse.


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Harold Lee Pickens
10-08-2018, 10:49 PM
Beautiful pic of Grace, kind of reminds me of Leon danchin's setter Heads portrait.

Dean Romig
10-08-2018, 11:03 PM
I've seen some of his paintings and I admire them greatly.





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Tom Flanigan
10-09-2018, 10:03 AM
That picture of Grace is wonderful. Georgeous dog. Looks like there is still a lot of green where you were hunting. Hunting early before a lot of foliage is down is not easy.

Dean Romig
10-09-2018, 10:10 AM
Thanks Tom for the compliment on Grace.

We’re doing our best to remove the foliage, but it gets pretty expensive...





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Garry L Gordon
10-09-2018, 09:16 PM
Dean, that is one gorgeous setter (and a great photo)! Beautiful country, good dog work, a nice gun...kinda makes not getting a bird easier to take.

Gary Laudermilch
10-10-2018, 08:07 AM
I have an all original 1903 P grade 1 frame 12 ga. with 26" twist barrels. At 6-10 it is superbly balanced and a delight to carry in heavy cover. It handles like a 20 and when loaded with 7/8 oz shells it shoots like one as well. If Parker created brush guns this one probably epitomizes that effort.

Harold Lee Pickens
10-10-2018, 08:45 AM
Early Fox Sterlingworth "pin guns" advertised a Brush gun model. They were 28" cyl/M
and had the lightweight 4wt barrels. I have one, and it is under 7 lbs.

Mark Ray
10-10-2018, 11:01 AM
Early Fox Sterlingworth "pin guns" advertised a Brush gun model. They were 28" cyl/M
and had the lightweight 4wt barrels. I have one, and it is under 7 lbs.

I always understood that the Fox Sterly's were:

26" Brush
28" Field
30" Standard
32" Trap

Drew Hause
10-10-2018, 11:08 AM
Dave posted an A.H. Fox catalog page thereof here
http://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=525059&page=1

So in summary, there apparently was no "Brush Gun" listed in Parker catalogs?
A concept rather than a grade?

Harold Lee Pickens
10-10-2018, 07:58 PM
Mark, you were right on the Fox "brush" gun having 26" barrels. Thanks--still at under 7 lbs and cyl/M chokes, not a bad gun for tight covers.

Bill Jolliff
10-10-2018, 10:16 PM
Here's one of those Fox Sterlingworth Model 1911 Pin guns in the 26 inch "Brush" model with serial number 57979 and the factory letter.

Interesting that it was shipped on October 24, 1911. Exactly 25 years to the day when I was born (October 24, 1936).

Nice light gun that shoots great. I've had the gun 38 years.

https://i.imgur.com/bCx160l.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/RyqZEQx.jpg