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Mike Kobos
10-05-2010, 04:59 PM
I just got back to Boston from the Julia auction today where there were Parkers and other fine doubles sold. Well there is good news - and bad news. First a US President - Teddy Roosevelt - trumped the Czar of Russia. The bad news is that Mr Ansley Fox of the Fox shotgun company gave President Roosevelt a Fox shotgun to take on his famous 1909-1910 African safari - Mr. Parker did not.

The Roosevelt Fox gun today sold for $750,000 plus a buyers fee of either 15% or 17%. As virtually everyone know the Czar Parker sold for $250,000.

The other good news is that many Parker lovers were able to add to their collections with some very different Parkers for very low prices. About 24 of the Parkers sold for BELOW their projected selling range.

When I get the chance to get back to the computer I will post some of the prices.

Mark Landskov
10-05-2010, 05:40 PM
Wow! Jack Puglisi paid $250,000 plus, I think, 20 or 30 thou for the buyer's premium. A week or so after he bought it, I went to peek at it, but it was already gone!

Dean Romig
10-05-2010, 06:14 PM
Word has it that he had it sold long before he placed that historic "A quarter of a million dollars!" bid.

George Lander
10-05-2010, 08:29 PM
Dean: Do you have any idea who bought Teddy's Fox?

Best Regards, George

Eric Eis
10-05-2010, 08:38 PM
Word has it that he had it sold long before he placed that historic "A quarter of a million dollars!" bid.

No that's not true. Gun was sold after he received it from Julia's

Austin W Hogan
10-05-2010, 08:41 PM
I missed you Mike; where were you sitting? I was near center with Daryl Middlebrook.

Best, Austin

Austin W Hogan
10-05-2010, 08:53 PM
According to my estimate, there were at least 4 phone bidders on theTR gun. It opened at 250000 and went by 100000 increments quite quickly to 750000, when at least three phone bidders were still standing.
The Fox "Director's Special" brought $35000.

The Lefever A brought $45000

The LC Smith Deluxe grade also hammered at $45000

The Remington Galazan Parker AAHE 28 brought $34500

The Walter Chrysler M21 brought $100000

Best, Austin

Dean Romig
10-05-2010, 09:25 PM
I have no idea George.

Mike Kobos
10-05-2010, 09:43 PM
Here is the Julia page with the descriptions of each gun in detail: http://jamesdjulia.com/auctions/div_catalog_296.asp?pageREQ=1

Here are some of the prices from today:
#1152 AAHE Single Barrel Trap Upgrade 12ga: $5000
#1153 SC Single Barrel Trap 12ga: $3500
#1160 P grade hammer 8 ga: $8000
#1161 B grade hammer 10 ga: $6000
#1162 C grade hammer 12ga: $5000
#1163 grade 2 hammer 12ga: $2250
#1164 D grade hammer 10 ga: $3250
#1165 grade 3 hammer 10 ga: $1750
#1166 D grade hammer 10 ga: $1500
#1168 U grade lifter hammer 12 ga: $1250
#1169 grade 1 hammer 10 ga: $1700
#1170 O grade lifter hammer 10 ga; $1600
#1171 $125 grade lifter hammer 14 ga; $3000
#1172 N grade 8 ga; $9000
#1173 AHE grade 12 ga; $10750
#1174 AAHE(new Remington/Galazan) 28 ga;$34500
#1175 VHE .410; $23500
#1176 VHE 28 ga;$12,000 (one bid only)
#1177 DHE 20 ga; $20,000
#1178 DH 20 ga; $4500
#1179 DHE 20 ga; $5000
#1180 DHE 20ga; $7500
#1181 GHE 16ga; $6000
#1182 DHE 12ga; $2000
#1183 DHE 12ga; $6000
#1184 DHE 12ga; $5000
#1185 CHE 12ga; $5600
#1186 AHE 12ga; $4000
#1187 DHE 16ga; $2000
#1187A AAH Upgrade 20 ga; $8000
#1187B AHE Upgrade 12ga; $3000
#1187C GH 16 ga; $6000
#1188 DH 12 ga; $2500
#1189 PHE 20ga; $3400
#1190 VHE 20ga;$4500
#1191 VH 20 ga; $3000
#1192 VHE 12ga; $1500

On top of these prices is of course the buyers premium. These were the prices receiving the powerful "SOLD" verdict at Julia's today. They will of course publish the "final prices" online.

Kevin McCormack
10-05-2010, 09:49 PM
"The horror; the horror......"

James T. Kucaba
10-06-2010, 06:10 AM
Dean: Do you have any idea who bought Teddy's Fox?

Best Regards, George

I was a phone bidder, and while waiting for the gun I wanted to come up, the woman from Julia's told me the TR Gun sold to a Phone Bidder ... Hmmmm ... The story has the familiar ring of the way the "Czar Gun" was sold ... Which leads me to speculate that the $862,500.00 TR Gun may be on its way to Duluth soon ... Just a wild guess ... For what little it's worth.

Jim Kucaba ... AriZOOna Cactus Patch ... Email: JimKucaba@aol.com

Mark Landskov
10-06-2010, 07:08 AM
The last time I looked at Puglisi's website, all of his Parker Hammer Guns were gone. I wonder if he had them on consignment with Julia's? That would be a good way to move them along quickly.

Mark Ouellette
10-06-2010, 07:20 AM
Mark,

Maybe to finance the TR Fox...

Scuttlebutt starts with ideas such as this!

Mark

James T. Kucaba
10-06-2010, 09:06 AM
The last time I looked at Puglisi's website, all of his Parker Hammer Guns were gone. I wonder if he had them on consignment with Julia's? That would be a good way to move them along quickly.

Mark ... You're right, I hadn't visited the Puglisi site for over a week, but like you said, there's not a single Parker hammer gun on Puglisi's website ... I wonder what's up with that ?

Jim Kucaba ... AriZOOna Cactus Patch ... Email: JimKucaba@aol.com

Dean Romig
10-06-2010, 09:56 AM
Mark,

Maybe to finance the TR Fox...

Scuttlebutt starts with ideas such as this!

Mark


There are a lot of collectors out there who could easily afford such a gun. It could be any of them or it could be a museum. Museums can't possibly depend on 'donations' alone and most of the larger ones like the National Firearms Museum (home of the three Parker Invincibles) and the Buffalo Bill Museum in Cody WY. receive handsome endowments in order that they be able to acquire such artifacts.

Bill Murphy
10-06-2010, 10:01 AM
The National Firearms Museum missed a bet if they didn't buy the TR gun to go in with other TR artifacts.

Dean Romig
10-06-2010, 10:12 AM
We shall see...

Greg Baehman
10-06-2010, 12:36 PM
Gosh, it begs the question on what that $34,500 gavel price of the Remington/Galazan 28-ga. AAHE will do to future sales at the $50,000 retail and reported year long wait to obtain one?

Dean Romig
10-06-2010, 12:41 PM
The good ol' law of "Supply and Demand" will answer that question Greg.

Jared Valeski
10-06-2010, 05:59 PM
Anyone have the hammer prices of the reproductions?

Mike Kobos
10-06-2010, 08:35 PM
Jared,

I also took the Reproduction prices which in general were good.

#1193 A1S 20ga; $11500
#1194 DHE 28ga; $13,000
#1195 DHE 28ga; $7500?
#1196 DHE 28ga; $3600
#1197 DHE 20ga; $4000
#1198 DHE 20ga; $3250

However the best deal of the day was the MIG 21 - which is still airworthy for $20,000. (I know it is not a Parker but the cockpit is big enough to hold one)

Jared Valeski
10-06-2010, 09:11 PM
Thanks Mike.

The prices that the reproductions brought seem in line with what I've been seeing elsewhere especially when the buyer's premium is tacked on.

I looked at the MIG pictures as much as I did the TR Fox. 20K seems cheap. However, it would be more difficult to hide the MIG from my wife compared to another side by side...
JJV

Bill Anderson
10-07-2010, 03:41 PM
I missed the auction. What was lot #1194 DHE 28ga. for $13,000 exactly? Three barrel set?

Thank you,
Bill

Greg Baehman
10-07-2010, 04:19 PM
I missed the auction. What was lot #1194 DHE 28ga. for $13,000 exactly? Three barrel set?

Thank you,
Bill

28-ga./.410 DHE Bi-gauge set, SG, 2-beavertail forends, SST, 3- sets of barrels (28-ga. 26" Q1/Q2, 28-ga. 28" M/F and 26" .410 IC/M.

http://jamesdjulia.com/auctions/catalog_detail_shots.asp?Details=40872&sale=296&lot=1194

Dean Romig
10-07-2010, 04:34 PM
http://jamesdjulia.com/auctions/catalog_detail_shots.asp?Details=40872&sale=296&lot=1194

That would be a good deal in anybody's book. If you were to buy a couple of 28 ga. Repros for $4K each and a .410 Repro at $5K you'd be right there but I don't think you could.... even if Winchester made a .410 by itself.

Bill Murphy
10-07-2010, 07:24 PM
For those unfamiliar with Repro small gauge guns, the beavertail on a .410 barrel set is about as rare as rare gets in the Repro world if it is factory. Repro collectors almost always hit the jackpot in auctions where lots of original double guns are sold. The Repros are not looked at as serious guns in these auctions and are sold at less than retail in many cases. Yes, in many cases, but not all.

Greg Baehman
10-07-2010, 07:45 PM
Speaking of .410 Repros...do the barrels have the same stepped down contour to save weight as the originals have?

Gill Frye
10-07-2010, 07:59 PM
The ones I've seen don't.

Dean Romig
10-07-2010, 08:48 PM
No, they don't have the deep step from the barrel flats that the originals had.