Opinions on this Critique

[John Roberts]

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Here's the gun:
https://stevebarnettfineguns.com/parker-1-shotguns-for-sale/parker-dhe-20-gauge?rq=19098

Thanks
JR

[Rich Anderson]

Very nice gun with lots of condition. Small bore Parkers and Fox's aren't going to get any cheaper. Steve is a good guy to deal with.

[Reggie Bishop]

This gun was listed originally as a pair with an almost identical CHE 20. The CHE sold recently. Small bore, long barells, straight stock, lots of color and original finishes. They don't get much nicer. I have considered trying to buy it several times. It just needs another trigger!

I wouldn't take too many points off for what is noted in the critique.

[Brian Dudley]

The observations noted are bordering on nitpicking. The combination of them may suggest a repair done to the rib extentuon at one time, but no more than that.

[Richard Flanders]

Bordering on nitpicking? You can often see that 'screw' on the to rib and the dolls head is fit better than most. I can't even see what the mismatching matting is referring to.

[John Roberts]

All your thoughts pretty much mirror mine, gentlemen. Thanks, and others please feel free to comment further. I'm enjoying my first couple of threads here, nice bunch of guys.
JR

[Chris Travinski]

James,

Forgive me if you already know this. The top rib is made in two pieces, the second being right behind the rib legend where the matting is (possibly) slightly off. The rear piece includes the dolls head extension. Maybe that piece was replaced? Just a guess...perhaps the dolls head was damaged beyond reasonable repair?? Regardless, if that's the case it was probably factory work. I wouldn't let any of that bother me.

[Dean Romig]

A bit more nit-picking -

It would be nice if we could see a top view of the comb.
It has been my experience that we (normally) only see that kind of fluting of the comb nose on Parkers made with the ‘Trap Comb’ and it would be difficult to explain it otherwise.





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[Rich Anderson]

This is a consignment gun and belongs to a very knowledgeable collector of high condition original guns by the major American companies. IMHO the gun is correct and the nit picking is from someone who probably couldn't/wouldn't spend that kind of cash.

This along with the CHE was on Steve's table at the Southern.

[Bill Mullins]

I have seen and held this gun and it is an outstanding example of a DHE 20!
The cosignor personally told me the only reason he was selling the gun was that
he had another slightly better ( if you can imagine that ) otherwise the gun would not be for sale.. the same for the CHE 20 that Steve recently sold. I saw both guns and if my "retirement budget" had allowed they would already found a home. :)

[Todd Poer]

If there was any repair done to that gun, as others have mentioned, it was done very early in that guns life. Maybe on assembly somebody dropped the barrels on the dolls head. No the gun is not a mint condition never fired gun that was hidden in original box in grandpa's closet, but its close enough by my standards. By looks of it it appears only time it has been handled was by someone with an oil cloth doling over it. That gun might have less than 500 rounds fired in it. Beautiful gun.

BTW I think anyone that go to trouble to nitpick that much is campaigning or trying to manage the narrative on that gun. It worked. I am now sorely convinced that gun is a POS made completely worthless with that SST trigger since no market for that at all. And that engraving is gawd awful, my cat can scratch better scenes in the litter box. All that busy grain in the stock makes it weak and fragile and will probably snap at the wrist with a half ounce load and probably why gun was never shot much. That gun shop should be ashamed of trying to pass off such an unsafe hoax. I got maybe a couple of hundred bucks that I'm willing take a risk on that gun, maybe for parts or something.:)

[Joe Graziano]

Why the obsession to critique a shotgun you don’t intend to purchase? It’s a bit odd and off putting to criticize other people’s ads. If you aren’t involved at all in the transaction or invited, as Vicknair often is, by a potential buyer to evaluate a firearm, why are you involving yourself?

[Todd Poer]

Why the obsession to critique a shotgun you don’t intend to purchase? It’s a bit odd and off putting to criticize other people’s ads. If you aren’t involved at all in the transaction or invited, as Vicknair often is, by a potential buyer to evaluate a firearm, why are you involving yourself?

Exactly, they have ulterior motives. Common high stakes negotiation tactic, or they are just an ass. Answer is probably somewhere in between.

[Frank Srebro]

IME, nit pickers on vintage gun sites are often driven by an air of superiority or by jealousy, or worse yet by both.

[John Roberts]

Why the obsession to critique a shotgun you don’t intend to purchase? It’s a bit odd and off putting to criticize other people’s ads. If you aren’t involved at all in the transaction or invited, as Vicknair often is, by a potential buyer to evaluate a firearm, why are you involving yourself?

He was asked to by a fellow member @ Doublegunshop.com. Only reason DV would have on this particular gun. The guy who requested the critique hates Parkers. He said this example "is the kind of gun you should feel excellent about paddling a canoe with, should you break both paddles...".

[Dean Romig]

Wow - That’s pretty harsh! Fenceposts maybe, but canoe paddles?!?

Some people feel the need to trash that which others admire and appreciate, or they just don’t feel they are important. And they simply don’t know how to act in a public social setting. I guess it’s okay to act boorishly with their buddies when they’ve had enough amber elixer or “tongue lubricant” where they just don’t care or even feel anonymous... but some people are just born that way.





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[Todd Poer]

Some people are just haters. I guarantee even you look closely enough at some high end English guns in 6 figure range you could find something to nit pick and disparage, even beyond the price.

[Dean Romig]

Right.

If I am examining a gun that I fully intend to buy I have every right to nit-pick the merchandise to my heart’s content, but IMO, not on a public forum... even if asked to join in on the nit-picking.

And I’m sure neither Steve or the owner of the gun never asked folks to publicly nit-pick or thash this nice gun.





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[Jim DiSpagno]

That’s correct Dean. Some people never learned from Grandma when she said “ keep your words soft and sweet because you’ll never know when you’ll have to eat them”

[Bruce Day]

Trap comb on an A 20. Disregard the purple face above . Unintended and I can’t delete it.

The Barnett gun looks like a really nice one to me.

[Jeff Davison]

Man, looks like a lot of work went into that critique. There are certainly easier ways to prove you’re a jackass.

Wonder if Steve copyrights his pics?

Also, I’m sure glad no one wrote a critique of the hammer gun I picked up from Dean. The fit on that butt plate, make a man cry.

http://parkerguns.org/forums/showthread.php?t=23632&highlight=Parker+grade

[Dean Romig]

I hope that gun becomes all it can be Jeff.






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[Jeff Davison]

It is Dean, slowly, but getting there.