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Bryan Perry
08-08-2018, 08:24 AM
What has been reported as some of the highest serial numbers among the membership? The book shows a 241788 16 Gauge D Grade as the last gun in the list. Would that gun have been kept by the family?

Just curious really - but it would be great to see that gun or anything produced near the end of the run!

bryan

Brett Souder
08-08-2018, 09:59 AM
I know where a DHE 12ga., 30" vent rib gun is that is serial number 2423xx.
-Brett

Dean Romig
08-08-2018, 10:04 AM
Actually, the last Parker made by Remington Arms in Ilion, NY when production was halted at the outbreak of WW II was something like 242464 or something very close in the last digit of the serial number. After the war, a few guns were assembled but it was not cost-effective so Parker Gun production was permanently terminated.





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Paul Ehlers
08-08-2018, 10:21 AM
Bryan,

There are guns out there with higher serial #'s than the one you mentioned. I have owned one that was about 200 higher myself. There some Parkers in the 242000 range as well. I always try to keep in mind what was going on when the last Parkers were produced. The bombing at Pearl Harbor changed everything in the gun industry in a very short period of time. As I understand it all gun production in the US was cut over to making military arms & our beloved Parkers were victims of that cut-over and never came back after the war. I feel it's only reasonable to assume that some of the records dealing with the last Parker's produced could have been lost to the dust bin of history during those crazy times.


The other thing that comes to mind is the possibility of someone assembling guns from surplus left over parts they acquired along the way, which my account for some of the higher serial numbered guns as well. I hope others with more knowledge of the subject will chime in to correct me if I'm off base.

Patrick Butler
08-08-2018, 01:45 PM
I owned a Parker DHE 20, #242,09X. Fantastic wood, as the last ones tend to have.

Dave Suponski
08-08-2018, 02:09 PM
242487 is it guys

Dean Romig
08-08-2018, 03:28 PM
Dave - where is that recorded so we can refer to it in the future?





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Kevin McCormack
08-08-2018, 04:31 PM
The very last of the Remington Parker inventory of completed guns produced at Ilion was "frozen" at the outbreak of WW II and much of the specialized equipment used in producing the Parker Gun was similarly isolated and immobilized when the company formally initiated arms and ammunition production for the war effort, and much of the machinery declared obsolete and was scrapped for same.

Once the war was over and the company returned to sporting arms production, an evaluation of the feasibility and profitability of producing a side-by-side gun was carefully examined from a number of standpoints (existing market, market values, appeal, profit margin per individual graded guns, and other factors involved in advertising and marketing a product relative to these aforementioned essentials.

When the decision was made to not resume production of the Parker Gun, the existing inventory of completed guns on hand at Ilion when the war broke out was first offered to selected dealers and then to the employees of Remington at Ilion at modest discounts. Surprisingly, very few were purchased by the workers.

According to Ed Muderlak's "Parker Guns - The Old Reliable' the last gun built by Remington at Ilion was a GH .410 built from parts inventory in 1947. The serial number is 242387

Pat Dugan
08-08-2018, 05:25 PM
I think I have the last single barrel Trap

Serial Number 242055 , its SC

John Dallas
08-08-2018, 07:34 PM
Kevin and Dave are 100 numbers apart. Typo?

Dave Suponski
08-08-2018, 08:14 PM
John,I believe I have the correct number

Kevin McCormack
08-08-2018, 08:45 PM
Kevin and Dave are 100 numbers apart. Typo?

Could very well be, John - shuffling all of these records and correspondence have produced some significant transpositions in the past. Personally, I wouldn't care much in a 100-number variance if I could have that little GH .410 in my gun safe!

todd allen
08-08-2018, 09:50 PM
I have number 242122, on my lap right now. 65 numbers from the end of the line.
This is the sweet little two barrel set DHE 20, "Doctor's Gun" that I wrote about in the Parker Pages last year.

Mark Ray
08-09-2018, 04:17 PM
I know where 242021 DHE .410 00frame, Vent Rib, Beavertail, Skeleton, DT, is. It is unfired....and @#$#@%!! Beautiful!

Gary Bodrato
08-27-2018, 02:13 AM
I have in my possesion receiver number 242393 a GH, number 0 frame by its measurements. I have not gotten a research letter yet, but the serial number check list says its available hard is that is to believe. Probably impossible to find all the origional parts, plus some wank sanded all the engraving off, if in fact it was ever engraved.

Dean Romig
08-27-2018, 06:20 AM
The PGCA most probably only has the Remington IBM card on that serial number. It would give gauge, if it had ejectors, grip style (maybe) forend type (again maybe) and barrel length (if it was ever fitted with barrels) and possibly where the gun was sent (if it was).

Most IBM cards have minimal information.





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Brian Dudley
08-27-2018, 07:48 AM
I have in my possesion receiver number 242393 a GH, number 0 frame by its measurements. I have not gotten a research letter yet, but the serial number check list says its available hard is that is to believe. Probably impossible to find all the origional parts, plus some wank sanded all the engraving off, if in fact it was ever engraved.



Was that action purchased on ebay maybe 2 years ago?

Bill Zachow
08-27-2018, 03:37 PM
At one time I owned a new in box, cased, 28 gauge VHE that may have been the last gun madeprior to the War Dept shutting down civilian gun production. The serial was 242103 produced in April, 1942 if my memory is correct. In my files I have a letter from Remington to their dealers and distributors telling of the required production shutdown. I gave the PGCA a copy of that letter when Ron Kirby was involved.

Gary Bodrato
08-27-2018, 04:39 PM
Brian, the time line is about right but it was purchased from the Parker Club sale section from a member, as I recall or it may have been advertised here first and then bought on Ebay,one followed the other, just not sure which now. The member was from Westchester NY. Are you familiar with this receiver?
Thanks, Gary

Dean Romig
08-27-2018, 05:21 PM
Gary, by the “Parker Club sale section” do you mean the PGCA members only for sale page?

I’m not trying to be a smart a$$ but I would like to know if there is another Parker Club where we can buy Parker’s and parts.





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Gary Bodrato
08-27-2018, 08:31 PM
No its the PGCA members only for sale page,, sorry for any confusion

Brian Dudley
08-27-2018, 08:46 PM
I just recall an action on ebay that was very late and in the white. It was actually unfinished or should I say partially finished. I was trying to buy it when it was on ebay as I was trying to fill a hole in a display I am putting together.

Bill Murphy
08-28-2018, 01:49 PM
A receiver for sale on ebay. Fancy that!

Gary Bodrato
08-29-2018, 04:41 PM
Here are some photos taken today. To my untrained eye it looks to have been assembled at one time. Any thoughts?

Brian Dudley
08-29-2018, 04:55 PM
Yup, that is the one. Notice that the hammer lock screws are not countersunk yet. And the axle cover screw holes are not threaded either by the look of it.

Gary Bodrato
08-31-2018, 12:31 AM
Brian, question is the O stamped on the upper tang a Remington frame size stamp or something else altogether? Thanks, Gary

Brian Dudley
08-31-2018, 09:04 AM
It likely is. Remington marked things differently on the gun in various places than Meriden did. And since the frames at Meriden, never did have any marking on them as to frame size, Remington likely decided to mark them accordingly. I have had very few Remington Era guns apart to be able to say that I have noted this mark before on those frames.

Gary Bodrato
09-02-2018, 03:03 AM
Brian, I just might pull my Remington era 16 on a number 1 frame and see if this was a standard practice. Thank You