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Todd Poer
07-31-2018, 11:16 PM
Was goofing around and saw this with Blaser shotguns. Don't know much about them, but this slo mo video of busting clays has to be one of the best I have ever seen. Thought it cool to share.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8LPRHEhAuw

Mike Poindexter
07-31-2018, 11:43 PM
I really like the scene about 2/3 of the way through where the girl dusts the bird with one pellet without breaking it. From the video, it looks like she had the bird in the pattern, just not enough density to make several hits. Makes me feel better about some of the shots I've missed when I thought I had it.. Maybe just not enough pattern. Dont get me wrong--I miss plenty that arent even close, just that sometimes you think "why?" when everything looks and feels right. Thanks for posting.

Daryl Corona
08-01-2018, 06:56 AM
I've seen that video before and I think it would be an interesting study if they did it with different choke constrictions, say cylinder vs. full. The chipped bird looks to me to have been shot over and behind by her and I'm betting that if she had a tighter choke in she would have at least broke a chip off it. If you stop it at 2:15 and advance the video frame by frame to 2:18 you'll see the holes in the pattern. It just confirms my fondness for tight chokes and 7 1/2's.

Todd Poer
08-01-2018, 08:24 PM
Sometimes you hit em and they don't break. I looked at her shot then also one of his and it looked like both were in edge of pattern except his broke and hers was just dusted. BTW if its dusted don't they score that a hit? Not up on all the rules.

I like the shot string and how relatively tight the pellets were. Some of those angles it was hard to tell if there was a shot string. My guess is that they were also about 15 to 20 yards or maybe 10 yards. That wad hitting the target so hard makes me think those were close shots and open chokes. Just a guess though.

Carl G. Bachhuber
08-19-2018, 09:08 AM
Got to wonder how close those birds were to the shooter? In some of the photos the wad was hitting pieces of the pigeon.
C.G.B.

Richard Flanders
08-19-2018, 11:40 AM
I have always been under the impression that even a single pellet hit that causes enough disruption of the clays flite for the caller to see is considered a hit. I miss so many clays shooting left handed that I have been shooting on a sand bar this summer where the clays land in soft sand and often don't break. I fetch and reuse the whole ones, sometimes as many as 3 times, and some have 3-4 holes in them and are still not broken. BTW, I like my little Atlas battery-powered thrower with a foot switch. Makes it easier to get at least a half decent gun mount when shooting alone. Much better than a Trius step thrower. It's very portable also. Breaks down to fit in a small tote and goes into the back seat of the plane.

Daryl Corona
08-19-2018, 12:35 PM
It has to be a visible piece to be considered a broken target. I've seen more dust off targets with #8, 8.5 and 9's than I do with 7.5's. That's why I prefer tight chokes and 7.5's. Your mileage may vary.

Todd Poer
08-19-2018, 08:12 PM
Thank you was not really proficient on actual rule and to lazy to look it up. I recall watching some skeet shooting competitions and seeing them score hits when it looked like targets were not broken but did see dust flying of them. Semantics of competition. But I like seeing the targets pulverized.

Carl I agree with you. They were probably within ten to fifteen yards, maybe 20, for the wad to be busting into the target like that. BTW have no idea what chokes they are using either or even what gauge. What I thought was interesting was even in those relative short distances for filming you could see the effect of shot string.

John Dallas
08-19-2018, 08:22 PM
I admit I've never seen the calculation, but the wad will be 'way slower than the shot string. Think about all the wads you walk around going to st station 8 on the sleet field. For the wad to hit a skeet target, I think you would have to be 'way out in front of it

Dean Romig
08-19-2018, 11:14 PM
I have actually seen the shot string under favorable light conditions.

The camera caught this one.

It's not often that I miss in front... this is one of those rare occasions.

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Todd Poer
08-20-2018, 06:55 AM
Did a little more digging. No shocker but it appears they were shooting 12 gauge which is the F16 model. Which is confusing because I think gun is only offered in 12 gauge then why not F12. For a kind of blase looking gun that all they did was add an R to make name, it has a nauseous list price $4,195. I jest though I think they do make some other fine guns and I'm sure they are probably solid guns.

I agree the wad hitting chards of target with that much force, but close behind the pellets probably means they were dang close, especially in the black screen shots probably taken in an indoor range.

Remember when I was kid and shooting dove and after wasting a box of shells with nothing to show for it my dad said you can't lead a dove enough. Took it literally, very frustrating afternoon. First I was way behind until given advise on lead and then birds were dodging the wads since I was to far out in front. Trial and error.

Brian Dudley
08-20-2018, 12:27 PM
2:16 in the video is proof positive that you can hit a bird with a few pellets and not break it.

Craig Larter
08-20-2018, 12:37 PM
I run the Clay's setup at our hunt club. We use the harder compounded Clay's from Lawery. You can't believe how many full Clay's I find with up to three hits. Many of our shooters use 8, I feel 71/2 is a better choice.

Todd Poer
08-20-2018, 01:52 PM
Still remember several years ago when I got a new to me 28 gauge. So during Christmas was first chance I had to shoot it while visiting family in Kentucky. Up till then only smallest gauge ever hunted or shot with was 20 gauge. My dad called 28 gauge a sissy gun and so did his old hunting cronies and well as uncles and cousins. Unfortunately only shells I could find for the 28 gauge in a rush were #9 shot loads.

Went to family farm to bust some targets and poke fun with guys I don't get to see that often. It was colder than a well diggers ass after third shift but we were still out there busting targets and give each other a hard time. So out comes the 28 gauge. Man we were blasting away at those targets and could see dust flying off them but not breaking. Would go and pick them up most targets would be three, four, five hits but no breaks. There for a while I thought gun bore was out of alignment. BTW I actually think the targets were frozen because even with 20 and 12s we also shot were not smoking targets but just clean breaks but were using 7.5 and 8 shot. That was a rough time trying to defend my little sissy 28 gauge purchase.

Now I know the 28 gauge puts up great velocity numbers but less shot in the pattern but dang good enough on 20 to 25 yard shots. 9 shot just doesn't have down range energy. I don't shoot anything but 7.5 shot it in it now and would love to find 8 shot but for some reason most just make it in 7.5 or 9 loads. However, when I win the lottery will get some 28 gauge 10 or 12 shot tungsten loads worked up. That could be the ultimate upland gauge with those tungsten loads. I can hear it now, Carries like a 410 but hits like a 16 gauge.