VH #1 frame

[Daniel Carter]

What percentage of VH 12g a. were made on # 1 frames? I am looking at one and am wondering how common they are. Thank you.

[Brian Dudley]

That information is not known. One can only speculate.

[charlie cleveland]

had to be several thousands made...charlie

[Daniel Carter]

Charlie in my wandering of gun shops and the internet, admittedly limited, i had not seen many. It has one glaring wart, a shortened stock, now a spacer and pad but it is otherwise good to my purposes and has a new home now.

[Rick Losey]

I would think that the 1 frame would be close to a standard for the 12

[Dean Romig]

The 1 frame, the 1 1/2, and the 2 are the common standard sizes for the 12 gauge.

The 1 1/2 made it's debut just before the turn of the century and eventually caused the 1 frame to be phased out.





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[Daniel Carter]

Once again in my limited experience i have seen many 2 frame 12 ga. but this is the first 1 frame i have been offered. Any how it suits me and the price was fair.

[Rick Losey]

I would think that the 1 frame would be close to a standard for the 12

[Daniel Carter]

Thank you Dean. This gun is from 1922. Your answer was very helpful.

[Mills Morrison]

There seem to be a lot of 1 frame 12 gauges in the early days of hammerless Parkers, but not as many once the 1 1/2 frame came in

[Brian Dudley]

The "Standard" frame size for the 12g. was the 2 frame when things started out. It came to be 1-1/2 later on.

Generally speaking, standard frame sizes are:

20g. - 0
16g. - 1
12g. - 2
10g. - 3

Then if a lighter or heavier gun was needed within a given gauge, the frame size could be altered depending on needs.

[Patrick Lien]

I would like to see some pictures of these 1 frame V grade 12 gauge guns. Serial range and clear pic of the lug showing the the frame size would be appreciated.

PML

[Harry Collins]

I had two #1 frame 12 gauge GH Parkers from 1893 within 60 or so serial numbers of one another. Kevin Kelley purchased the best one. I have a PH with Twist barrels and a set of DH Damascus barrels that fit it. Nice little 7 pound guns.

Harry

[Bill Holcombe]

Not the best quality pic I will grant you, but it appears to be the best I can provide at the moment. 1891 Parker GH 1 frame. 65962. weight is 7lbs 12 oz.

[Dave Suponski]

Austin, Was always of the opinion that the 1 frame 12 gauge was the standard gun. 2 frames and up were for heavier guns.

[Dean Romig]

Right Dave - In the days of the exposed hammer Parkers the 1-frame 12 bore was the standard but the 2-frame was ordered by those who shot waterfowl and at pigeon and clays games for a purse of prize. This practice generally carried into the hammerless era until just before the turn of the century when the 1 1/2-frame was introduced.





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[Daniel Carter]

Photo of barrel lug as requested, s/n in 199 range from 1922.

[Bob Hayes]

Here is a 1 frame D grade I found last year,made 1902.Skeleton butt plate with dam. barrels.Rough shape but a nice little gun with 28" barrels.

[Bill Holcombe]

I bet that is a light 12 with 3lb 10 oz barrels. I had a 1 frame 3 dog at one time that was 6lbs 12 oz...man those barrels flew.

[Daniel Carter]

7 pounds even, fits very well and feels alive in your hands. I was hooked as soon as i mounted the gun. It came from the estate of a fellow club member who was what i call a gun hoarder, would buy anything with no clear purpose just to have it. There were 6 Parkers, this being the only one of good condition.

[Brian Dudley]

Why are photos of 1 frame VH guns being requested/provided? To prove they exist?

I own a VH 1 frame 12g. But you will just have to take my word for it.

[Daniel Carter]

Post #12 asked for a photo of the lug and a serial # range, never having posted a photo here i thought it was time to learn.

[Wesleymoore]

I think the 1 frame was the standard frame for the 16ga, the 2 frame is standard for the 12ga