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Bryan Perry
07-02-2018, 08:18 PM
Looking for some background that might explain why this gun does not appear to have a dark finish... the wood is beautiful! Any insight would be much appreciated. I am assuming this is a Trojan model. Any general advise or comments on the gun? This will be a new addition if all goes well. Thanks, bryan

charlie cleveland
07-02-2018, 08:21 PM
really nice wood on that gun and the gun looks to be a keeper to me...charlie

William Davis
07-03-2018, 05:38 AM
It’s been cleaned and polished, stock seems to have some sort of treatment too. Is that wood grain or applied grain.

WillIiam

Rick Riddell
07-03-2018, 05:40 AM
All the bluing and case colors are gone, giving it that white or silver look. I was curious about the wood as well, was it flamed?

Bill Murphy
07-03-2018, 06:38 AM
It looks like a maple restock, very interesting.

Bryan Perry
07-03-2018, 07:15 AM
It’s been cleaned and polished, stock seems to have some sort of treatment too. Is that wood grain or applied grain.

WillIiam

Thanks for the reply, I am in the process of buying the gun so I have the same kinds of questions. It sounds like the original stock would have likely been walnut but the pattern is similar to a tiger maple. It could be that the pattern was applied as others have suggested. I will know more in a week or so but I really appreciate the comments and questions from everyone.

Rick Riddell
07-03-2018, 08:12 AM
Awesome keep us posted!

Dean Romig
07-03-2018, 08:21 AM
It is a restock - probably with wood from a grade 2 gun. Trojans did not come with a capped pistol grip.
Sure would like to see more of the forend. If it is latched that would suggest donor barrels too.






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Brian Dudley
07-03-2018, 09:07 AM
Parkers have blued barrels/trigger guards. And all other metal is case colored. This particular gun has either had all of it’s original finish worn off or removed.

The wood is not original. Not from another gun, just plain non-factory wood. The type of wood was not used on Parkers, and the shape of the stock is just plain not right, especially in the grip.

Not that any of that means the gun will not go bang and do it’s purpose. But i just hope you are not considering paying more than $400-500 on it.

Channing Will
07-03-2018, 09:43 AM
It looks like a unfinished project. I can't tell from the pictures but it appears the forend was checkered with a custom pattern and there is no checkering on the stock. Whoever started the project likely prepped the receiver and barrels but never got around to completing the job.

Phil Yearout
07-03-2018, 10:30 AM
My 16ga Trojan also has had the receiver buffed or polished at some point before I got it. I don't think the barrels were re-blued or the wood refinished but I don't really know for sure. I like it anyway...especially since it accounted for my first true double on pheasants last fall :)!

https://i.imgur.com/gmXnLswl.jpg

Dean Romig
07-03-2018, 11:32 AM
It looks like a maple restock, very interesting.



It's what is called "tiger maple".





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William Davis
07-03-2018, 01:56 PM
More I look at the wood more I think it is painted tiger maple pattern. If it’s mechanicaly sound and priced to reflect the finishes may be a good buy. Consider I have been looking at a very nice all Original Trojan 12, it’s been for sale on consignment long time at 1100 dollars. My guess Gun pictured half that.

William.

Brian Dudley
07-03-2018, 04:41 PM
The look of antiqued tiger maple can be replicated with a pencil torch. Not that I am saying this is that, but I have seen it done.

Phil Yearout
07-03-2018, 07:41 PM
There were some double guns available with figured maple stocks like that; trying to remember...was it Bill Hanus Bird Guns that had them :confused: ?

William Davis
07-03-2018, 09:43 PM
Most Tiger Maple I have seen is on full stock muzzleloaders. Stripe is not as bold as the Trojan pictured. However it’s not a wood I have worked with or know much about.

William

Joe Dreisch
07-03-2018, 10:19 PM
Hatfield doubles had tiger maple stocks when they first came out....

Phil Yearout
07-03-2018, 10:40 PM
Hatfield doubles had tiger maple stocks when they first came out....

I think that's what I'm thinking of.

Bryan Perry
07-11-2018, 10:57 PM
Thanks for all the kind replies.... this does appear to have been a project gun. Clearly not in original configuration - someone had a Trojan and decided to give it a look all its own.

Here are some interesting points I have noted on it since picking it up. The stock is tiger maple and is not original however, the fit is excellent.

The numbers on the receiver, barrel and fore grip all match! 164419

Inside of barrels are like mirrors.

Everything seems to function nicely.

Butt plate is fishtail and fits perfect (not original of course!)

Any insight on the original specs or configuration are definitely appreciated. Thanks for everyone's help and suggestions.

My criteria was that it function - obviously, my next one will need to be in original condition....

Brian Dudley
07-12-2018, 07:44 AM
http://parkerguns.org/forums/album.php?albumid=604

See here for photos of what an original Trojan looks like.

edgarspencer
07-12-2018, 11:12 AM
I can't remember the name of the process, but that stock is not naturally striped like that, but is applied by wrapping the stock with twisted lengths of cloth, soaked in a chemical, and left in place. The chemical essentially bleaches the wood where it is contact.