View Full Version : What is Up With This?
Dave Noreen
05-28-2018, 10:56 AM
http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?f=107&t=470138
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Frank Cronin
05-28-2018, 11:36 AM
Cool gun. Never seen the Damascus pattern on this one like on other Parker grades.
Rick Losey
05-28-2018, 11:57 AM
i would like to see a close up of any marks on the underside of the barrels
maybe this "maker" fitted new damascus barrels to a Parker frame
wayne goerres
05-28-2018, 04:26 PM
Maybe not a barrel address but requested with the new owners name and add on the barrel. A letter may be in order.
edgarspencer
05-28-2018, 05:05 PM
I can't seem to get a close-up view, but it may be an 'added' inscription atop the Parker rib.
Dave Suponski
05-28-2018, 05:43 PM
Bernard variation?
Brian Dudley
05-28-2018, 05:50 PM
The photo are terrible quality. But it does look very similar to Bernard barrels.
The rib extension fit looks iffy. And the forend lug is a lot fatter than normally seen of Parkers. My guess would be the barrels were replacements made from new, custom.
Dean Romig
05-28-2018, 07:42 PM
Mr Weston was obviously not really the "maker" but more probably the custom 'assembler' of non-original (to that particular Parker) barrels and possibly other parts as well.
Definitely Bernard - possibly "No. 16 Bernard I"
Robert Brooks
05-28-2018, 09:00 PM
What caused that circle in center of rib in front of dolls head?I have a Parker that has that mark? Thanks Bobby
Brian Dudley
05-28-2018, 09:01 PM
That is the screw that helps retain the extension.
Dean Romig
05-28-2018, 09:27 PM
And it is usually only observed on barrels that have been refinished.
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Robert Brooks
05-29-2018, 08:57 AM
Thanks for the info. Bobby
Bill Murphy
05-29-2018, 09:21 AM
Can we get better pictures and a serial number? Thanks.
Robert Brooks
05-29-2018, 03:08 PM
Bill if you are asking me I do not take pictures but the Parker is a 20 ga GHE # 2365XX.Bobby
Bill Murphy
05-29-2018, 03:53 PM
Hmmm. 1900 GHE, serial number 236,5xx.
Dean Romig
05-29-2018, 04:33 PM
Parker Bros. never produced a gun with letters in the serial number.
Without the real serial number we can't verify how and with what features it was manufactured.
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edgarspencer
05-29-2018, 04:53 PM
Who's on First?
We've got two separate conversations going on here. The OP still hasn't given a SN of the Cleveland Gun, Bobby's talking about a 236,XXX GHE. Bill's trying to confuse us with 1900 on a 1928 gun, and Dean, well, you know Dean, He's just being silly.
Brett Hoop
05-29-2018, 05:08 PM
Who's on First?
We've got two separate conversations going on here. The OP still hasn't given a SN of the Cleveland Gun, Bobby's talking about a 236,XXX GHE. Bill's trying to confuse us with 1900 on a 1928 gun, and Dean, well, you know Dean, He's just being silly.
Abbott
Thank you. I thought it was just me.:eek:
Dean Romig
05-29-2018, 05:34 PM
Alright Lou, listen to this... A Parker with serial number range 236,5-- would have a 1934 date of manufacture.
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Michael Meeks
05-29-2018, 06:00 PM
SN 95095 according to OP. I don't see it in serialization book. There's a gap btwn 95021 and 95097.
edgarspencer
05-29-2018, 06:39 PM
Parker Bros. never produced a gun with letters in the serial number.
Without the real serial number we can't verify how and with what features it was manufactured.
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Alright Lou, listen to this... A Parker with serial number range 236,5-- would have a 1934 date of manufacture.
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Parker did not use hyphens in their serial numbers either.
Dean Romig
05-29-2018, 09:46 PM
The word 'range' qualifies the dash.
(Dash - def. a mark of punctuation used to indicate a missing letter or number.)
'Numbers in this case, and when two or more dashes are used together without spaces or other letters, numbers, or marks of punctuation, indicate a range.
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Bill Murphy
05-30-2018, 06:44 AM
I have no idea how Mr. Brooks got a late GHE into this conversation. The Bernard gun has a "2" on the forend lug.
Robert Brooks
05-30-2018, 09:11 AM
I ask about the circle in middle of top rib and then stated that I had a GHE Parker with the same mark as pictured on the beautiful Damascus bbls pictured.Sorry Bobby
Dean Romig
05-30-2018, 12:27 PM
No reason to be sorry Robert. A bit of a variation from the topic but that happens all the time on this forum. There are so many questions on such a huge variety of topics that people need to ask a question when it presents itself.
Now, back on topic - a "2" stamped on the forend lug would indicate barrel set No. 2, is there a corresponding 2 on the forend iron?
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Rich Anderson
05-30-2018, 03:55 PM
Parker Bros. never produced a gun with letters in the serial number.
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Ok now I'm confused (not a big leap:)) by your statement. I have guns that there is a letter usually a N prior to the serial number. Did you mean something like 123N456?
Could just the rib have been replaced for some reason?
Dean Romig
05-30-2018, 04:35 PM
Wow - you are confused....
Parker never produced a gun with letters in the serial number, i.e. 2365XX, the two X's being the letters I was referring to.
On the guns that you have with a N preceding the serial number, the N is not a part of the serial but if you look closely it is actually a No. (with the right vertical stroke of the N intersecting or touching the o) meaning "Number" and you will only find that engraved in script on the trigger guard strap on grades 3 and higher.
See example on a Grade 4 hammer gun.
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Rich Anderson
05-30-2018, 07:06 PM
I have never noticed the 0 before. I have several guns with the letter N. Never to old to learn something new:). My eyesight is bad, I can't hear worth a damn and my knees are starting to argue with me. Getting old isn't for sissies:nono:
Dean Romig
05-30-2018, 08:56 PM
My eyesight is bad, I can't hear worth a damn and my knees are starting to argue with me. Getting old isn't for sissies:nono:
That was my mother's favorite saying... and she was old - but I'm quickly learning how true her words were.
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