Any Old Car Gurus Here

[Jack Cronkhite]

Can anyone correctly identify the two vehicles in these pics. Not a contest. I don't know the answer. I am going to an auction in September that has plenty of this vintage on the block. Most are projects for the not faint of heart. But, if I found either one of these makes/years, I would likely get myself into that bottomless money pit of old iron that you can't shoot just because of family history. The young boy has passed a few years back at almost 93. His sister, the baby in the pic, is still going. I think she will make it close to 100. Going strong and independent at 92 in her own home. Anyway, anybody know the vehicles?? Cheers, Jack

[Bill Murphy]

Looks like the '26 T Tudor that I am looking at a picture of. However, many early cars look similar. From what I understand, Model Ts are a bit soft and have been for years.

[Todd Poer]

That looks like a Ford Model A but hard to tell. Go to google and type it in and you will see a ton of pictures of them. Henry Ford: Customers can have any color vehicle they want, as long as its black. But even that is wrong.

Actually stand corrected, I think Bill could be right. It looks more like a Model T with that rear window that is round and wooden spoked wheels. But it is hard to tell.

My grandfather had an old Model T and still have parts of the tool kit like wrenches and and a ball pen hammer from it.

BTw that car in second picture on right edge looks like the back end of Ford Model A Coupe as well.

[charlie cleveland]

think bill hit it right a model t.....charlie

[Jack Cronkhite]

Well this one is part of the auction. No round rear window though and wire wheels

[Dean Romig]

That one looks like pre-1925. When did Ford start wire spoke wheels?

The one in the right background of the second picture looks like some sort of cabriolet...

Pictures were taken at a railway station... there's "CANADIAN" painted on a railway car or engine in the left background of the second picture.





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[Todd Poer]

I don't know but think some model years may have oval windows and then or an arch or oval casing at the top. That might not be a qualifier and picture might not show the window correctly. Hard to say. I do know that wood spoked wheels were an option for base models and they even had metal spoked wheels as more expensive option since they were less prone to warping. Just remember seeing an old marketing piece saying get the wire spoked wheels for a more refined ride. I think they made wire spoked wheels pretty early though.

Will have to admit no expert on old cars just got exposed to it at very young age since a childhood friend of mines dad used to work on these cars as hobby. I think the Model A replaced Model T so not certain. I also think the parts could be interchangeable. Someone might of had some wooden spoke wheels from a Model T and put them on a Model A. They were pretty savvy back then about adaptive reuse of things.

[Dean Romig]

I think that oval or oblong window might be the back glass rather than a side glass.





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[Todd Poer]

I agree its the rear window but have never seen one that small and mostly the oval shape was for soft tops and not the hard tops. Did see a picture of Model T that had an oval rear window but it was much larger and the door further back. Anyway cool old pictures but definitely whether a Model A or T it is a 1920's era vehicle.

[Bill Murphy]

The '26 I am looking at in a picture has a rectangular back window. I don't know what the round window signifies in Jack's picture. I still think it's a T, but the year is in question. I found some T Models on the internet that are priced more reasonably than others. Jack should have no trouble finding one.

[Dean Romig]

If that 1-year-old baby girl is currently 92 that makes the picture was taken about 1926 but that is not really an indicator of the year of the car. I say between 1915 to 1925. The one in the barn appears to be earlier.





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[Jack Cronkhite]

Thanks all. Never looked deep into the background but definitely parked outside a railway station. Likely a Canadian Pacific rail car - good eye!!
I'll keep looking around. I have it in my head that I want to do a restoration project but would not be adverse to just driving one away either. I would miss the great pleasure and or frustration of a project but my wife might prefer to actually get to go for a ride before we end our time on the planet. Cheers, Jack

[Jack Cronkhite]

The wooden gun totin' youngster looks about 6 and he was born 1920. So if brand new, we are looking at 1926 vehicle. The grandfather (not in the pic) was fairly well to do for the era so it could be new(ish). Grandma in the pic was a strong farm woman and outlasted hubby for many years. Cheers, Jack

[Bill Murphy]

Jack, there is a dealer in Michigan that lists several T Models in the twelves that seem to be in clean condition. Some dealers think T Models are worth 20 to 30 thousand in running condition. No way.

[Jean Swanson]

Well

I am not sure ,but it looks like a two door 1921 Chevrolet coupe.

Google "1921 Chevrolet pictures"

I just sold a 1921 Chevrolet touring car rag top two weeks ago.

[Jean Swanson]

Jack

Fords and Chevrolets in that error looked almost identical, after closer checking the picture of the car in question right side photo, I noted an air scoop on top of the front cowl---Chevrolet did not have that option in the 20's.

I stand corrected, it appears to be a 1925+/- Ford model T

Allan

[Jack Cronkhite]

So, I went to the source - the only still living person in the pic. She filled me in on the picture, not that she had memory of it rather memories of how many times in life she heard stories about that time. My math wasn't quite right on her age. She was the New Years baby for Calgary Alberta in 1927. She says she was 6 months old in that picture. Her Grandparents had taken them on a trip to Spokane via Radium Hot Springs in British Columbia. That is likely the train station picture. She called the car Grandma's new Ford. So the trip would have been June 1927 and if it is a new vehicle it would be a 1926. (I don't think 1927 models would be on the market in June of '26 but stand to be corrected on that assumption). I wouldn't discount 1925 as that might still be considered newish.

Funny story added. The toy gun was purchased in Spokane. Upon crossing the border back into Canada and being asked if they bought anything, Grandpa said NO. The honest six year old immediately corrected him saying Grandpa bought me a gun. I'll bet he was popular at that moment. Cheers, Jack

[Craig Hahn]

The oval back window would indicate that it is a non Ford.
If you look at the car in the background, it has the square back window that indicates ford.
The thing on the cowl is the gas cap. Back in those days, the top half of the front cowl was the gas tank. On the inside, in the dash, would be a sight glass to tell you your fuel level. not exactly the safest way to store a flammable liquid.

[Paul Ehlers]

If the dates mentioned are correct. This would be a last year Model T. Ford introduced the Model A in 1927. One of the big changes between the T & the A was relocating the gas tank. The Model A introduced the cowl mounted tank which could be identified by a round gas cap in the top center of the cowl. I believe that the Model A was the crossover for wire wheels as well. Another big change which can't be seen in the picture was a change in transmission types and how the clutch worked.

One thing to keep in mind about Model T's. There were many versions of them over their life span. They started out in the brass era and morphed into what would eventually would be refined into the Model A.

[charlie cleveland]

the model a was far ahead of the model t but the model t had its place and use....charlie