Setters and Woodcocks..

[Jerry VanHorn]

We had the house painted a short while ago..and the BOSS finally gave her OK for me to decorate the family room..Picked these out to hang first..1...Dupont Dealer Print..One in a series. This is GENEVA 1903/Federal Ammo. print...2..1939 calendar sample/Peters calendar top...3..Ithaca poster/and a painting from 1980 by my ex-wife..From a picture I found...4...Savage-Stevens-Fox....First in the Field..

[Harold Lee Pickens]

Great prints Jerry, love the English setters

[Rich Anderson]

Very nice. Where did you find the dealer and manufacturer prints?

[Jerry VanHorn]

I found the 1903 Dupont in a shop in Maine. ..several years ago..The SSFox and Federal were found at other shops..These are some of about 60 that I have collected over the years.

[Dean Romig]

Fabulous prints Jerry. I am envious. My very small collection is growing though.
A neighbor here in Andover has a WHF print of an English pointer. If it was of a setter I would pester him until he cried "uncle" and sold it to me.






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[Michael Meeks]

Very nice collection, Jerry! I love seeing sporting art on display year-round in our house. It helps carry me from one season to the next!

[Rick Losey]

some of my favorite artists there - thanks

i am trying hard not to add more prints - several have not seen a wall in years

but i also never count them :rotf:

[Rich Anderson]

I'm not breed specific as I favor a GSP in the field but they are seldom encountered in artwork.

Dean what's a WHF print? An English Pointer is a stylish dog. Do you have a picture of that print?

[Rich Anderson]

I'm not breed specific as I favor a GSP in the field but they are seldom encountered in artwork.

Dean what's a WHF print? An English Pointer is a stylish dog. Do you have a picture of that print?

My wall space is at a premium as well so I bought another house in the U.P. and it's at a premium there also:)

[Michael Meeks]

Just a guess... William Harnden Foster (WHF)

[Rick Losey]

Just a guess... William Harnden Foster (WHF)

did his location give you a hint :corn:

[Michael Meeks]

Dean,

My WHF print with setter...

[Dean Romig]

Yes, William Harnden Foster is the artist. His paintings and prints are truly coveted.

The upper picture is in my neighbor's house. Could both pictures be of the same dog?

Bill Foster's friend and owner of the original skeet field here in Andover, Charles Davies, also owner of Glen Rock Kennels at the same address, raised, trained and sold English Pointers.

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[Dean Romig]

Michael, I have that same print.





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[Michael Meeks]

Was the other WHF setter print you were referring to his 1939 CH Sports Peerless Pride?

[Dean Romig]

I believe it is Michael.





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[Rick Losey]

since he got some some WHF illustrations from me - i think there is a shine wall some place


my stack has many Osthaus (go figure) and more than a few A B Frosts - then a mix of others i just liked

[Dean Romig]

I just noticed the painter of Jerry's bottom picture is "Hy" Hintermeister - another of my favorite sporting artists.





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[John Taddeo]

Dean, If you ever wrestle your neighbor into submission let me know... My current Grouse buddy "Parker" bears a slight resemblance....

[Tom Jay]

It’s interesting you never see a GSP in a classic grouse/woodcock painting. Nouveau dogs...

[Dean Romig]

That's because the GSP was only introduced to the US in the 1920's and wasn't recognized by the AKC until the early 1930's. The classic paintings of American bird dogs were done in the late 19th century and early 20th century.





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[Dean Romig]

What a beautiful pointer John! Classic looking.





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[John Taddeo]

I have a Robert Abbott print."Shorthair and Grouse".. it's one of my favorites...

[allen newell]

That 1903 print of Geneva is framed and hangs in my living room. classic setter. Original print. Love it

[Rich Anderson]

I've hunted over some pretty stylish English Pointers in my day. There great dogs but I'll stick with my GSP's. I've had one continuously for over 30 years until 12/27 but that will change come May. Maybe I can find that Robert Abbot print.

[Jerry VanHorn]

I keep telling myself that I really don't need any more advertising/prints..etc..But...I must be weak, because if I do run across a new one...well..you know how it goes.. For example, Dupont did a post card that matched all the prints they gave to dealers. There is one on Ebay for $30...I offered $25 and he declined. I had a friend in Palm Beach that owned an art shop. I had him frame many of these. The SS Fox print is framed in sassafras cut from our farm in Indiana..I pegged the corners and did the copper on the corners. When I find a new one, I put it under the bed with the others..and bring it out later..and tell my wife......" I've had this a long time..don't you remember ?"..Sometimes it works..

[John Taddeo]

Abbett... Sorry about the misspell

[Greg Baehman]

Speaking of Robert Abbett . . . I'm the current caretaker of an Orvis "Light Salmon" 8'6", 3/2, 7wt. fly rod formerly owned by by him. (There are a few GSP hairs stuck to the bag.)

[Dean Romig]

A great rod for grilse and the occasional salmon!





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[Michael Meeks]

Parkers and Orvis Impregnated Bamboo... Two things I cherish!

[Rich Anderson]

Thanks John, I'll have to look for that the dog reminds me of Gunner and Daisy.

[Tom Flanigan]

Parkers and Orvis Impregnated Bamboo... Two things I cherish!

Nothing more American than Parkers and Orvis cane rods.

This is an Orvis Ron White built cane rod in my mouth, a snake river finespot cutthroat in my hand. Both are beautiful.

[Tom Flanigan]

Like the rGSP, you don't see many Brittanies in prints. But they can make great grouse dogs. I favor the setter because they are traditional but I have owned Brittanies also. One of my best grouse dogs, Rusty, was a Brittany. Unlike some Brittanies, he was also stylish on point, as the picture shows.

[Dean Romig]

I had a great male Brittany named Rusty too. Mine was shot and died in my arms... one of my saddest days ever.





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[Tom Flanigan]

I can't even begin to imagine that. Horrible.

[Dean Romig]

It was a 14 year old kid home from school - no adult at home with him - shot a .22 rifle from his bedroom window at my dog that was in the woods behind his house.
Some people knew who did it but wouldn't tell me until the transient father and his two teenage boys moved away a month later. I think they were afraid I might take the 'law' into my own hands. That was forty years ago, and in those days I might have...






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[Tom Flanigan]

Unfortunately that memory will stay with you for life. I never had anything like that happen to me fortunately. But I did have a dog that was stolen from my back yard. The dog was a great grouse dog and he was known as such in the Pawling area. Word gets around and some idiot saw a chance to make a quick buck.

I was beside myself with grief. That dog was my best friend in addition to my grouse partner. Word got out about the dog being stolen. Old Chet Sprague, the dog trainer and gamekeeper at the old Dutchess Valley Club, heard about a finished grouse dog for sale in Connecticut, about 20 miles from my Pawling home.

He took a trip to investigate and found my dog who he knew. The seller swore that it was his dog. Old Chet told him, "you have three minutes to get that dog in my car, or I will thrash you within an inch of your life". The guy put the dog in the car and Chet brought him home to me. I was overjoyed. I asked Chet who had my dog but he would never tell me. He was afraid that I would do something and get arrested. He was right!

[Dean Romig]

I'm glad yours had a hpppy ending.





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[Gary Laudermilch]

Tom, that is a "Jenny Willow" story, almost.

[Tom Flanigan]

What is a Jenny Willow story?

[Gary Laudermilch]

Jenny Willow is a fictional book written by Mike Gaddis. I found it a wonderful read and worth the time. It is about a setter and a man that loved to hunt grouse. I'll leave it at that lest I spoil the story.

[Dean Romig]

"Pocono Shot" is also a fictional tale, written in the 1920's I believe, of a setter and his various owners by John Taintor Foote. A great story of fishing and hunting and mystery and intrigue with a real tear-jerker of an ending.






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[Michael Meeks]

Tom,

Jenny Willow, written by Mike Gaddis. It's about a man and his setter. You need to read it; you won't put it down once you start. One of my all time favorites!

[Tom Flanigan]

Thanks for letting me know about the book guys. I'll make sure to get a copy.

[Christopher Lien]

On the subject of wall space and Setters. Sometimes one might have to be creative with organization, (Up high or Down low) but there is always room for another Setter or Sporting related item on the wall...;)

Best, CSL
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[Dean Romig]

Right Chris... I may need to rearrange some of mine, or rotate some off the wall to make room for some more recent acquisitions.





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[Jerry VanHorn]

This one has a permanent spot at our house. It is a Rosseau..measures 50x30..and is above the downstairs fireplace. My note on the back..with only a partial gallery sticker says "________ Autumn". I bought it in Palm Beach in 1997..and as I recall it was $225..and we ended up at $175...

[Phil Yearout]

Dean's story brought back an unfortunate memory. When I was in college I got a Springer pup. Took her home for the summer; my dad was unhappy, said how was I gonna take care of that dog at school? I said I'd figure it out. I named her Lucretia, but dad couldn't ever pronounce it right and he just called her Crissy. Dad was devoted to Nip, our family dog. That summer old Nip was run over and killed; it broke my dad's heart, and when fall came I just couldn't take Crissy away from him. They became inseparable; she'd ride beside him in the pickup with her front feet on the dash.

Shortly after I went back to school Dad looked out in the field near the house and saw something white; sure enough, it was Crissy. She'd been shot. I don't remember how dad found out who had done it, but it turned out to be a home town kid; someone said he drowned a whole litter of kittens the same day, just for fun. Dad confronted the kid's dad, and he said, "It's just a damned dog." All Dad asked was that the kid bury Chrissy, but he told the father, "That kid is gonna kill somebody some day."

A few years later a bunch of kids were at a party; the shooter was one of them, and sure enough, a kid ended up dead, shot. I really don't remember the rest of the details. I always wondered how the shooter's dad felt about that.

My dad never got over it. When he retired and he and Mom sold the house, he said the hardest thing for him was leaving when Nip and Crissy were buried there.

Sorry for the downer.

[Dean Romig]

Not a downer really - it all just shows how a dog can be devoted to a person but more, how a person can be so devoted to a dog.

I sobbed the whole time I was digging the hole and burying Rusty.





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[Dean Romig]

Jerry - Did that wonderful frame come with that print?





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[Gary Laudermilch]

The right hand print in the original post seems typical of a Rosseau. He seemed to have a penchant for depicting dogs in water.

[Rick Losey]

a Rosseau water scene
http://parkerguns.org/forums/picture.php?albumid=588&pictureid=10329

[Jerry VanHorn]

Dean..Yes..that's the way I found it. It had thick layer of dust..and had obviously been there a while. I think that's why he met my price..

[Christopher Lien]

Right Chris... I may need to rearrange some of mine, or rotate some off the wall to make room for some more recent acquisitions. .
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Dean,
Those previous images are from a couple years ago, took some old prints and calendars that had been put away for a while and made a tight collage display in a spare room. Prints in image below, top left to right are, P. Rosseau, M. Arnolt, Osthaus, Osthaus, and T. Blinks. The two large angling calendars are part of the Humorous 1940-50's "Dave" Fishing series by Hy Hintermeister, and at center is the 52"x24" Dupont Powders 1899 & 1900 National Champ Setters by Osthaus... After 30+ years of collecting all things "Old Setter", many items here are now going to other collectors, even took a few Old Setters to the Vegas show this year as seen in the second image below... CSL
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[Dean Romig]

Chris - I don't know if others are experiencing the same thing that I am but in neither your previous post nor this one can I see the images you included...





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[Phil Yearout]

Me neither.

[Christopher Lien]

Chris - I don't know if others are experiencing the same thing that I am but in neither your previous post nor this one can I see the images you included... .

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Dean,

The images on my two previous posts should be there now... My mistake.:rolleyes: .... Thanks for the heads-up.

Best, Chris
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[Jerry VanHorn]

Speaking of Hintermeister..I put this together a few years ago. Found a print shop in Florida that matched the paper..and the red is very close..

[Jerry VanHorn]

Another Osthaus..The BOSS let me hang this one in "my" bathroom !

[Rick Losey]

this is the one that took the spot on the wall when I took down the "Joe Cumming" print by Osthaus that I listed for sale

I have looked around the house for this print for a while, could not figure out where it went, while getting out a Frost print- my wife found this behind the armiore in the bedroom

a sure sign there are too many prints in this house :rotf:

now that its found- it needs to go get a proper job of matting and framing

an aside- in case you don't know- matting did not seem to be common in the late 1800's - the issue is Chromolithographs, when setting against glass will sometimes stick to the glass and due to the printing process the "ink" will stick to the glass better than it does to the paper - causing loss of image. so if you find one - slow and careful is the way to go

anyway- another Edmund Osthaus Chromolithograph - i liked the theme on this one

http://parkerguns.org/forums/picture.php?albumid=835&pictureid=10351

[Dean Romig]

Beautiful Rick!

I've seen that one on a period calendar at auction not so long ago.
I love the theme and that setter is perfect! Reminds me of Cam and me a couple of years ago.
I wish I could have commisioned Osthaus to paint Grace for me.
He must surely have been a bird hunter - he really 'nails it' in every one of his paintings.





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[John Dallas]

Here's an original painting by Bob Kuhn. It ended up as a Remington calendar. I'm guessing it was done in the 50's or 60's. It's titled "Up too soon". Anyone who has hunted behind a poorly trained Springer understands.