This one has me stumped...?

[Jerry VanHorn]

Bought this gun from a collector out West. Saw a lot of pictures...and the price was right..In readying to do a good cleaning, I noticed this...Gun is 223469..In book as 28" 16 ga. Trojan.Receiver and FE numbered. Varnish looks original..Has a DHBP instead of a plain Trojan BP..but it looks like it's been there forever. NOW...Barrels have no serial number on the flats..Has 16 and 1 on the lug. Has correct stamping on top rib. Bores are like new. Both flats are stamped..Parker Bros. Overload Proof..has GV stamp on right flat..3/5 barrel weight..and HT over an A.?? Then on the bottom rib, just ahead of where the forend wood ends..16ga BV or BY ? (Hard to tell)..Lynden Wa. Screws are like new..barrel blue is 95+. Traces of color..I know the seller, and I'll bet he never saw the stamp on the rib...Any guesses ??...Chokes are tight full and IM..

[Dean Romig]

You're saying there is no serial number stamped into the left side of the lug??





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[Jerry VanHorn]

Dean..I was wrong..The number is at the very top of the lug ..and was hard to see in the dark colors. It matches..

[Jerry VanHorn]

Tried to get a picture of the marking on the bottom rib. Too small to show up..and it's a tiny roll stamp..Not an engraving..I've searched 16 GA BY LYNDEN WA..I found nothing that gives any clues ? LOP is 14 1/8 to the DHBP...and it matches the patina of the rest of the gun..

[Bill Murphy]

Jerry, it's probably a Canadian import, imported by a Washington company. Morphy's (formerly Julias) has been using this company to bring guns in from the Great White North. Borderview I think is the company name, explaining the "BV" mark. The markings are the neatest and least intrusive import marks I have ever seen. The marking is mandatory for imported guns. Google Borderview Imports for information on company procedures.

[Jerry VanHorn]

Bill..Makes sense. The gun came from Oregon. I tried again for a photo with a better camera, but it's still too small. Measures about 3/8" long with letters about 1/16"...Thanks..j..

[Jerry VanHorn]

Bill...Found some info....Borderview Logistics is a gunshop in Lynden, Wa..since 1957. They import from Canada..and have an office there too. Cost is $299 for first gun..and $199 for next 4 in same shipment..PLUS 5% of total value to 5K..then drops to 2 %. BVLYNDENWA is approved by the ATF here to be the import mark..They state letters are, indeed, 1/16"..and maximum stamping depth of 0.003.....Thanks again..j..

[Dean Romig]

I wonder if there is a company on the East coast that will send guns to Maritime Canada?





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[Jerry VanHorn]

This company says it will do the paperwork to import guns, parts, ammo, etc..from USA to Canada..

[Jerry VanHorn]

Talked to Borderview people yesterday...The looked up the SN on this gun, and told me it was imported in Oct/2016 by a "well known collector"..whose name she would not give me. It was sent straight to Morphys Auction..where it was sold..I don't know if my seller was the buyer at the auction..

[Brian Dudley]

Well that answers your question.

It has always been a shame that guns end up getting marked up one way or another when traveling from country to country. But, the law is the law I suppose.

If anything, it is at least documentation of it's travels.

[Jerry VanHorn]

She said that importers have to give the ATF their import stamp design. ATF will either approve it..or reject it...Theirs is so small that it could be easily removed. I guess its better than the ATF requiring BIG letters on the receivers..