BAD NEWS

[Gary Carmichael Sr]

I just received the 16 Gauge Trojan via UPS, The Damn stock is broken at the wrist ! It was packaged in a plastic gun case inside a box very bad packaging, Now up shit creek without a paddle. Cain't send it back with all thats going on in Brads family Maybe I could reach out to Brian Dudley only have 1 month before the event, fellows I need some idea's Gary

[Brian Dudley]

Gary,
I was literally just clicking on this thread as you were calling me.

As per our discussion, get it to me asap and i will see what i can do. At this point, every day is precious time.

[Gary Carmichael Sr]

Brian thanks a million ! and I am sure I speak for everybody that is trying to get this youth shoot off the ground, As I mentioned in our telephone conversation I will get it out ASAP. I was floored when I saw the gun. The UPS man made a comment that they sure don't pack them like you do, should have not let him go till I opened it but the package did not look damaged, Brian I am sure I speak for everybody Thank You! Gary

[Mills Morrison]

Ughhh. Thanks Brian.

[Mike Franzen]

Wow Gary, we were just talking about this gun. What a shame. If anybody can do anything, Brian can.

[Brad Bachelder]

Hello everyone, this is Parker Bachelder. This gun was packed by myself personally and done with great care. I have been incurring frequent damages from UPS lately.
Gary, please contact me in regards to the repair. We have full capabilities to complete an undetectable repair.
Thank you, Parker

[Alfred Greeson]

Guys, I hate to say it but I have had a nice DHE damaged and it appeared to be slammed down to do it. It was properly packaged, almost two weeks late on delivery and it appeared to have been intentionally damaged in the post office. Don't have an answer but honestly believe we get sorry handling because it is obviously a gun being shipped at times. Damn shame.

[Brian Dudley]

Al, If it is so obvious, then there is a problem. Did you write “Gun” on the side of it or something?

Never put anything on a package or in an address to even suggest the contents may be a firearm.

If a gun breaks down, ship it broken down and well wrapped & padded. An assembled gun is just asking to be broken (which is what happened to this trojan by the way).

Boxes inside of boxes are a good idea too. One for barrel, one for back half and then both inside of one larger box.

Taking the proper precausions will nearly always avoid damage from handling. Short of being run over by a truck or getting plain lost, you will be good.

Some would be surprised the condition that some guns show up to me as shipped from their owners. I have, more than once, had to call an owner and say “good thing we were replacing the stock anyway, because it is broken“.

Understandably, an individual may not have the materials on hand to pack something this well regularly like a business would (or should). But then again, there are many individuals that take the time to build wooded boxes to ship their guns.

It all just boils down to how much you care about the gun you are shipping and it not getting damaged.

[Craig Larter]

Here is a box I buy. Excellent box in my opinion. Craig
http://www.cameronpackaging.com/gun_boxes.html#TakeDown

[Jeff Davis]

Guys, I hate to say it but I have had a nice DHE damaged and it appeared to be slammed down to do it. It was properly packaged, almost two weeks late on delivery and it appeared to have been intentionally damaged in the post office. Don't have an answer but honestly believe we get sorry handling because it is obviously a gun being shipped at times. Damn shame.

So in this case with the Trojan it was in one of those plastic Plano like cases right? How in the heck would a gun get broken in one of those even if not broken down? I’d hate to think it was intentional, but jeez, you are doing something if you manage to break a gun inside of one of those.

I’ve shipped quite a few at this point - always broken down in corrugated of some type and not had an issue.

[Mike Franzen]

Hello everyone, this is Parker Bachelder. This gun was packed by myself personally and done with great care. I have been incurring frequent damages from UPS lately.
Gary, please contact me in regards to the repair. We have full capabilities to complete an undetectable repair.
Thank you, Parker

Thank you Parker for reaching out like this under very difficult circumstances. I’m sure you know everyone here is grieving with you and your family. Best to all of you and again, thank you for your offer.

[Gary Carmichael Sr]

I am sure it was done by UPS, But this is the first time it has happened to me, I did not want to bother Parker with this he has enough of a difficult time right now, Gary

[todd allen]

You can't tell me that whoever damaged that package didn't know it contained a gun.
Intentional package mangling by postal, or other shipping employees should be punished with jail time.

[Bill Murphy]

I have the same question the earlier poster had, how do you break a gun inside a Plano case and a cardboard box? The insurance payment should cure all ills. Am I right or wrong?

[Brian Dudley]

I can twll you that those cheap plano gun guard cases have foam in them so thin that things slide around inside of them like no tomorrow. Unless you add a ton of padding. And the plastic is not very thick either. They flex. I had a rifle come in once for a transfer and the barrel was sticking put the end of one of those cases.

[Brad Bachelder]

Brian, I am familiar with the specifics of these cases and shipping firearms in general. There is no circumstance in which the package should endure handling rough enough to cause such damage. We wrap firearms in bubble wrap before putting them in to the cases and put additional packaging materials around the case before putting it within the cardboard box.
-Parker Bachelder

[Phillip Carr]

Parker you are right. Clearly any gun can be damaged if subjected to enough abuse. I once had a gun shipped back from Delgrego’s in a fine sturdy card board box that they use and was desighed to ship shotguns disasembled.
It arrived with several holes in the box and a number of scratches and gouges in the buttstock. UPS tried to claim it was not packed properly. After I pointed out that Delgrego’s has been shipping guns since the 30’s they paid off for the damage.
Its my guess Bachelder Master Gunmakers has shipped 1000’s of guns with relativly few issues in the 40 plus years of business.
Drive on young man. I wish you great sucess in carrying on the fine Bachelder business.

[Bill Zachow]

Over the years I have shipped 3 very heavy firearms to purchasers. The guns were an 8 gauge DH,an 8 Gauge hammer T grade, and a Winchester model 54 Sniper’s Match. All three guns weighed in excess of 12 pounds and I feared the heavy handed shippers. In all three cases I built screwed and glued wood cases with internal wood supports that locked the guns in place and also made the cases crush proof unless a tank drove over them. After completing and filling the cases with properly protected guns, I then covered them with cardboard as UPS would not take wooden boxes. The guns went to Idaho, Missouri, a,d Georgia with no problem. I think I may have frustrated a few anti gun UPS emplyees.

[Ed Blake]

I “inherited” one of Alan Swanson’s heavy duty wood shipping boxes. I’ve used it many times via USPS and never had a problem. Thank you Alan.

[edgarspencer]

UPS would not take wooden boxes.

Bill, I have never had UPS refuse to take either my wooden boxes, built just like you build yours, or a customer's box, BUT, they always seem to claim they need "Add'l Handling $12.00"
The same trip to UPS was with another gun, boxed in the customer's high quality cardboard box, Bigger, Heavier, and going farther, but $12 less.
I built two boxes for guns going out next week, 1" Pine frame, 7/32" Plywood top and bottom, Cabinet screws all around, and wrapped in Cardboard this time. Most of the time, I'm returning a customers gun sent to me for case making and fitting, so I make sure they get back in one piece. My cases go out in Double wall U-Line cardboard boxes. $5 ea, but worth it.

[Dean Romig]

I “inherited” one of Alan Swanson’s heavy duty wood shipping boxes. I’ve used it many times via USPS and never had a problem. Thank you Alan.


I build replicas of Allan's boxes and shipped a gun stock and forend to Chris in Newfoundland in one. I used 2x3 for the framework and 7/32" luan for the top and bottom and 1 1/4" screws every 4". Canadian customs wanted to see what was inside the box but they didn't have the tiny square bit for the screws. A silly little thing like that didn't deter the all-powerful Canadian customs folks.... they just smashed and pried until they had totally destroyed the luan cover.

I guess nothing is indestructible.






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[edgarspencer]

Canadian customs wanted to see what was inside the box but they didn't have the tiny square bit for the screws. A silly little thing like that didn't deter the all-powerful Canadian customs folks.... they just smashed and pried until they had totally destroyed the luan cover.

Next time you send something over the border, maybe don't use those square drive screws.

[Mills Morrison]

We went fishing in Canada one time and the airline sawed our plastic travel tube in half to check our rods. Sawed the rods in half too. They were not expensive rods but I am still mad about it.

[Russell E. Cleary]

What's wrong with those Bluenose Customs officials?

The Robertson (square) Drive is a Canadian invention, no less.