View Full Version : Now that’s a beavertail..
Kirk Potter
03-23-2018, 06:50 AM
http://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-for-sale-online/shotguns/fox-shotguns/a-h-fox-ce-12ga-.cfm?gun_id=100973079
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Dean Romig
03-23-2018, 07:54 AM
We've seen a few factory stock and forend oddities on Meriden Parkers. That Fox doesn't look too far-fetched to be an effective trap gun. We've sure seen stranger aftermarket modifications on classic trap guns.
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Robert Brooks
03-23-2018, 08:35 AM
I like beavertails but not that one. Bobby
Kirk Potter
03-23-2018, 08:59 AM
I love the engraving on the Fox CE’s, but they’d have to drop the price quite a bit for me to consider that.
Randy G Roberts
03-23-2018, 09:04 AM
And a Simmons VR to. All that to a Fox CE. I'm gonna be sick !:vconfused:
Brian Dudley
03-23-2018, 12:09 PM
They destroyed a good gun.
Imagine the weight added to the front of that thing with a forend that big.
Channing Will
03-23-2018, 01:06 PM
I wonder what the forend lug and latch mechanism look like. It’s a shame it has likely been heavily modified for that extra large and ugly forend.
Scott Janowski
03-23-2018, 04:41 PM
I agree double o frame. The latch on the outside of the forend is fit perfectly. I would like to see how that was achieved.
wayne goerres
03-23-2018, 08:43 PM
Well Brian at least when one of the members buys it and sends it to you you will have plenty of wood to work with. Man that is ugly.
Dave Noreen
03-24-2018, 07:33 PM
I've always thought this Ithaca Flues forearm pictured in Clyde Baker's gunsmithing book was a bit over the top.
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Dean Romig
03-24-2018, 07:45 PM
Looks more like a manatee tail.
Do you remember the Parker with the original beavertail with the huge lump thet the shooter rested in his palm? And the Parker with the stock that had the weird sloping comb that sloped up and away from the shooter's face?
Both were original examples of what Parker Bros would do upon a customer's request.
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Channing Will
03-24-2018, 08:14 PM
Not sure what’s worse, the forend or the Simmons vent rib!
Brian Dudley
03-25-2018, 07:29 AM
Wide is one thing, but a belly in a forend just destroys the lines of the gun.
Other posters are right about mentioning the work thag had to have been involved to make that forend work. Not only are super long screws needed, but either the barrel lug of hook on the latch would have been needed to be extended, by nearly an 1”! Likely the hook on the latch.
A new latch, new screws and new wood would do wonders for that gun.
Todd Poer
03-25-2018, 09:13 AM
That is definitely a love it or hate it gun. If you like unique guns with extreme features, then that is the gun for you.
No doubt that the form of that gun is maybe....butt ugly to most, to put it politely. When I first saw the post like others, I wondered as to how the heck the hardware would work on that fore-arm and that could be quite a feat as Brian suggested. I also think that gun had a distinct purpose, hunting probably not one of them. I also don't think it a trap gun due to length of barrel and choke. However given the short barrel, chokes as described in listing, and the weight forward profile I would think the function of that on a skeet course could help produce some interesting scores. Looks like an interesting experiment. Don't know if it worked or not, but obviously some one commissioned the work of a skilled gunsmith to put that all together on a decent piece of wood.
Since we don't see a whole lot of them out there, guess just consider it a one off relic in the heap of good thought, bad idea gun modifications. As others pointed out, maybe there is some salvage value of that forearm since it does have extra wood, guess it could be reshaped and maybe gun purchased at a deep enough discount to make sense to accommodate a reasonable repair.
todd allen
03-26-2018, 10:58 PM
It's a trap shooter thing. If you want to see some odd gun mods, hang out at a trap range for a day or two.
Bill Murphy
03-27-2018, 07:33 AM
Too bad it's at CSMC for pricing. I would like to own it at a fair price. I bet the gun will letter to a known NSSA shooter of the early days.
Brian Dudley
04-15-2018, 08:40 AM
This example was posted recently on the fox facebook page. Nearly the same. Different gun. Interesting...
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Robert Brooks
04-15-2018, 09:11 AM
I would call that one a double splinter one on bottom of the other. Bobby
Dean Romig
04-15-2018, 09:13 AM
Is that a Sterly or a higher grade ejector gun?
It appears to have some engraving but when I try to enlarge the pic on my phone it just goes blurry.
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Kirk Potter
04-15-2018, 09:17 AM
Is that a Sterly or a higher grade ejector gun?
It appears to have some engraving but when I try to enlarge the pic on my phone it just goes blurry.
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Looks like an A grade.
Dave Noreen
04-15-2018, 09:38 AM
Here is another unusual forearm for someone with gorilla arms that showed up on the Fox collectors site not long ago --
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Dean Romig
04-15-2018, 10:01 AM
I can fully appreciate that one Dave.
Long and far away for better barrel control and wide for competition induced heat. I like it!
Good thing it's not a friction fit or snap-on forend!
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JasonPeck
04-15-2018, 12:35 PM
This example was posted recently on the fox facebook page. Nearly the same. Different gun. Interesting...
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What my photo doesn't show is that the Deeley latch was removed and a push button release added. Bizarre doesn't begin to describe it. This was a second generation single trigger AE grade with the initials "W. STC. WILSON" engraved on the trigger guard. Unfortunately the serial number on the frame did not match serial number on the barrels/forend iron/trigger guard. And the frame appeared to have been blued at some time. But it was owned by his great-grandfather and the collector value was irrelevant.
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