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Robin Lewis
03-20-2018, 05:32 PM
I was just looking at the Parker's listed for tomorrows auction in Maine. I am not going to bid BUT I will be watching item #1314. It is a 20 gauge lifter presented in a nice case and it has an estimate value set at $12,500 - $17,500. If it sells in that range, I think I'll be kicking myself for not bidding. But, I have to draw a line somewhere so ..... it's a time in my life to think of selling and not buying so I'll just be watching from the sidelines.

A 20 ga. lifter is a rare bird indeed. Going on the data in The Parker Story, Parker only made 54 20 ga. hammer guns in all grades total (lifter + top lever) and of those only 13 were lifters (all grades) and of those only 4 were grade two guns. So, this gun is one of 4 grade 2 in 20 gauge! This gun has been worked on but being so rare, I think it will sell higher than the estimate???? I have been told that the market is soft now, so maybe they are correct, but it will be interesting to watch this one!!!!

I may just drive up to watch this one sell. FYI - for those that don't know me, I like Parker hammer guns and the lifters are my favorite of them all.

edgarspencer
03-20-2018, 06:31 PM
I have cased two for a member. One was a grade 3, the other, the very first Parker 20ga, was a $250 grade. Both were on display on his table at Baltimore this weekend.

Gary Carmichael Sr
03-21-2018, 10:03 AM
Yea I owned this gun and sold it to Daryl, hope to get it back today! gary

Dean Romig
03-21-2018, 10:20 AM
It is a beautiful and exceedingly rare gun for sure but the thing that sets it off (for me anyway) from other rare guns, and most probably a unique feature on any 20 gauge hammer gun, is the beautiful Parker-made (P) Laminated barrels.





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Rich Anderson
03-21-2018, 11:45 AM
good luck Gary

Kevin McCormack
03-21-2018, 11:59 AM
Gary, good luck and I hope you get it. Thanks so much for filling me in on the information about Daryl last weekend at the Baltimore Show. He was a great friend and I really miss him.

Gary Carmichael Sr
03-21-2018, 01:59 PM
Well Guys I did get the little twenty, glad for it to be back home , Gary

Mills Morrison
03-21-2018, 02:14 PM
Very nice gun. Congratulations Gary!

Randy G Roberts
03-21-2018, 02:34 PM
Ditto that, nice gun and congrats !

Dean Romig
03-21-2018, 02:36 PM
Hey Gary - it went to the right guy!

Congratulations!





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Reggie Bishop
03-21-2018, 02:38 PM
Excellent!

Eric Eis
03-21-2018, 02:48 PM
Well Guys I did get the little twenty, glad for it to be back home , Gary

And I got Daryl's H&H 28 ga Hammer gun with the 410 barrels. I talked to him about that gun and knew that he really liked it and I am so I'm glad that I got it.

Dean Romig
03-21-2018, 03:58 PM
Congrats Eric!





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Dean Romig
03-21-2018, 04:00 PM
It is good to know that Daryl's favorite guns are finding new, caring custodians, we just wish it could have been under different circumstances.





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Rich Anderson
03-21-2018, 04:10 PM
It comes full circle Gary congratulations:bowdown:

Garry L Gordon
03-21-2018, 05:14 PM
And I got Daryl's H&H 28 ga Hammer gun with the 410 barrels. I talked to him about that gun and knew that he really liked it and I am so I'm glad that I got it.

Eric,

Your new H&H is a very sweet gun! Congratulations. You got a real bargain that should serve you well for many years.

edgarspencer
03-21-2018, 06:20 PM
And I got Daryl's H&H 28 ga Hammer gun with the 410 barrels. I talked to him about that gun and knew that he really liked it and I am so I'm glad that I got it.

Eric, was that one of the many H&H Rook rifles that were re-barreled into small smoothbores? I had a Hammerless H&H Rook rifle, that was originally .360 Rook, but re-chambered to .38/.357. Fun to shoot, but I wish it hadn't been altered.
H&H will give you a letter on it.

Eric Eis
03-21-2018, 07:18 PM
From what I remember talking to Daryl he said it was built as a 28 ga shotgun, I will probably check with H&H after I get the gun.

Rich Anderson
03-21-2018, 07:22 PM
I do believe Edgar is correct.

Eric Eis
03-21-2018, 08:43 PM
You guys might be right I'm not sure, it will be interesting to find out though.

Daryl Corona
03-22-2018, 06:55 AM
Well done Gary. What a gem for your collection and I'm glad that it went to you where we can see it from time to time. Nice display at the Balto. show by the way.

Gary Carmichael Sr
03-22-2018, 07:53 AM
Eric, congrats on the H&H Daryl shot the gun several times at the Hendry Co sheriff range where we shot skeet in Florida thats a real nice gun I hope it will bring you as much pleasure as it did Daryl guess I need to have another Gin and Tonic for my old friend, Gary

Todd Poer
03-22-2018, 08:12 AM
This time of year being basketball tourney time and hearing Dick Vitale groan on, Jim Valvano's moving speech comes to mind. "If everyday you laugh, you think and you cry, then that's a hell of a day"

Sounds like yesterday was a great day when people are thinking of their friend Daryl and their shared joy of classic SxS's.

Bill Murphy
03-22-2018, 10:01 AM
I think I said it before, but "Thanks Gary for the great display at Baltimore".

Garry L Gordon
03-22-2018, 10:02 AM
You guys might be right I'm not sure, it will be interesting to find out though.

And even more interesting to shoot in the meantime!

edgarspencer
03-22-2018, 10:15 AM
Gary, Let me echo the sentiments of Daryl and Bill; That was the best display of Vintage Guns I recall seeing in my 12 years of that show. I give you tons of credit for staying at the table and speaking to everyone. Did you ever get time to walk around the big room?

Jay Gardner
03-22-2018, 11:10 AM
This thread would be a lot better with photos.

edgarspencer
03-22-2018, 11:56 AM
Plenty of high quality pictures in the catalog. #1314

edgarspencer
03-22-2018, 11:59 AM
Eric, was that one of the many H&H Rook rifles that were re-barreled into small smoothbores? I had a Hammerless H&H Rook rifle, that was originally .360 Rook, but re-chambered to .38/.357. Fun to shoot, but I wish it hadn't been altered.
H&H will give you a letter on it.

From what I remember talking to Daryl he said it was built as a 28 ga shotgun, I will probably check with H&H after I get the gun.

Eric, I just looked at it again in the catalog. No question, it’s original.

Reggie Bishop
03-22-2018, 12:25 PM
There is a H&H Rook rifle for sale at vintagefirearms.com. I just saw it today. I didn't even know they existed until this thread.

edgarspencer
03-22-2018, 12:34 PM
There is a H&H Rook rifle for sale at vintagefirearms.com. I just saw it today. I didn't even know they existed until this thread.

Nice to see one not bored out to .410, or sleeved to .22LR. Sadly, most were.

todd allen
03-23-2018, 02:16 PM
Links are a nice touch.
https://jamesdjulia.com/item/53097-6-402/

Rich Anderson
03-23-2018, 04:26 PM
I don't know how they came up with the appraised value of 12-17K, that seems awfully low for such a rare gun. Just another sales ploy I guess:whistle:

Richard Flanders
03-23-2018, 08:18 PM
I'm hoping that someone in Daryl's family has and appreciates the awesome black wolf pelt I sent him 10 yrs ago. I know he sure liked it.

The 20ga lifter Gary got is absolutely gorgeous and would make me a great ptarmigan gun! I like the Annie Oakley takedown Marlin levergun too; great airplane gun! These auction lists sure are some serious eye candy.

CraigThompson
03-24-2018, 03:33 PM
Does anyone remmember what the CH 10 gauge 3 1/2” brought ?

Garry L Gordon
03-24-2018, 03:38 PM
Prices are posted and can be seen on line.

CraigThompson
03-24-2018, 03:52 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong . But if there's no price beside a gun that means it didn't meet the reserve . If that is the case that CH sold a good bit less then I was expecting .

Robin Lewis
03-24-2018, 06:25 PM
I am more than surprised at the results, I expected it to be at least 2 times its hammer price. But that's auctions .....

Gary Carmichael Sr
03-25-2018, 11:11 AM
I am going to request that Julia double package the little twenty lifter, I sure do not want anything to happen to it, guess I am getting a little gun shy, Gary

Robin Lewis
03-25-2018, 12:11 PM
Good idea Gary! That little gun is special and would never be worth whatever insurance would pay, let alone it's loss. You got a great gun! I'm glad I didn't go to watch it sell, I don't think I could have remained in control of my hand, if you know what I mean.

:cheers: Congratulations!

Gary Carmichael Sr
03-25-2018, 02:22 PM
Maybe Daryl had a hand in me getting the gun who knows, gary

Dean Romig
03-25-2018, 02:41 PM
Gary, I left a message on your cell phone.

Dean





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Gary Carmichael Sr
03-27-2018, 11:58 AM
A photo

Gary Carmichael Sr
03-27-2018, 12:01 PM
maybe someone can turn these around

calvin humburg
04-19-2018, 08:22 AM
Glad u got the gun Gary. Good day ch