Nice Shot sticker shock

[Pete Lester]

Loaded some 1 3/8 oz Nice shot (ecotungsten) BB load for 2 7/8" 10ga. Ran the reloading cost calculator on them...... $2.61 per shell or just over $65 per box of 25 :shock:

Oh well gonna be fun to hammer some Canada geese with them.

[Bill Murphy]

Use a gun with serious pits, shoot steel, be happy, have a gun with clean barrels when you get home.

[charlie cleveland]

bill you made a good statment by using the steel shotkeeps cost down.ive not noticed any damage to the old doubles that ive shot steel in...thanks charlie

[Bill Murphy]

Charlie, you're the first person who has ever acknowledged the idea of shooting steel in thick shot cups in old guns. It is just no big deal and will not damage a gun that has already been somewhat damaged with minor pits and corrosion. Just keep an eye on the choke area every time you clean the gun. Thanks, Charlie. Another thing that can be done is to use chamber inserts and shoot 12 gauge steel in 10 gauge guns. There is hardly any chance of damage at the muzzle with a 12 gauge load.

[Bill Murphy]

By the way, Pete, how much does that Nice Shot cost per pound?

[Kurt Densmore]

Pete, I have been loading a 1 1/4 oz of #2 bismuth load at about 1300 f/s (8000 psi) that is killer on big honkers. You could probably drop back the amount of shot and still have a formidable goose killer.

I had a 70 year old man tell me that during WWII one of the shotshell companies was having a hard time getting lead and was loading up a steel shot shotshell for hunting purposes...........they called it "chilled shot".....????

Old wives tale or true ??

Kurt

[Robin Lewis]

Lead pellets are classified by their alloy content. Antimony is the metal used to harden lead. Antimony is a brittle flaky, crystalline metal with a density of 6.697 grams/cc. Like lead, antimony is toxic. Lead, when alloyed with antimony, becomes a harder pellet. However, when more antimony that is added, the overall density of the pellet is reduced.

"Chilled" shot contains about 98% lead and about 0.5% to around 2% antimony.

[Mark Ouellette]

Gentlemen,

A very knowledgeable LC Smith collector shoots Hevi Shot #4's in a LC Smith Long Range 12 Gauge. The Long Range Smiths have 3" chambers and a slightly tapered bore ending with choke constrictions of .040+" Thus far his trusty duck gun has suffered no damage.

Since I have a few cases of 12 ga 3" Hevi Shot, I wonder how well those shells would shoot perform from a 10 bore gun using gauge reducers? The larger bore would reduce the pressure somewhat or at least down to the 10 gauge limit of 11,000 PSI. A problem may be encountered from those "welding slag" pellets slipping past the front of, or through the slit in the wad as it expands to fill the bore. Do you have any experiance using Hevi Shot and gauge reducers in a 10 gauge Damascus gun?

Thanks,
Mark

[Bill Murphy]

Apparently, steel shot damage is not caused by scraping in the bore. The damage is normally done in the choke area. The 12 gauge load in a 10 gauge bore and choke should eliminate that worry.

[David Holes]

I have not heard of a 10-12 guage reducer can someone enlighten me thanks

[Dave Suponski]

David, Check out Gauge-Mates and Chamber-Mates on the web.

[David Holes]

looks interesting but makes me wonder, what if

[Dave Suponski]

David, I have a set Chamber Mates in 10 to 12 gauge that I use in my NH Parker with good results.

[Pete Lester]

By the way, Pete, how much does that Nice Shot cost per pound?

It was $60.00 for 2.2 pounds and they were offering free shipping last month.

Here is the website: http://www.ecotungsten.com/shots.html

[Mark Ouellette]

Bill and Pete,

Nice Shot is $60 per 2.2 pounds (kilo) or $155 per 6 pounds.

The shipping is a flat rate of $8.

The trick about Nice Shot is that a little goes a long way due to great patterns! I previously posted of dropping two geese at 55+ yards (determined by a laser rangefinder) with 1&1/8 oz Nice Shot #2 at 1250 FPS. The pressure was around 8500 PSI. For a 40 yard shot I think 7/8 oz would be enough!
-- Note: 7000 PSI for the load plus an additional 1500 PSI for the extra hardness of Nice Shot and that is does not compress as much as lead when fired. Something to keep in mind!

Mark

[Pete Lester]

I've loaded up some 1 3/8 nice shot BB's for the 10 bore. The big shot really seems to hit them like Thor's Hammer. I had thought about shooting 1 1/4 but there are only 72 pellets to a load of 1 3/8 and I wanted to keep pattern density up.

[charlie cleveland]

ive shot 12 ga 3 inch with the chamber mates in a 10 ga lc smith hammerless....they pattern very well and will kill a turkey stone dead at 50 steps....will put 13 pellets in a pepsi can at 55 yards...try this in your gunspatterning......charlie ps these were remington 3 inch no 4 shot 1 7/8 load....these gauge mates do work well... good hunting

[Paul Harm]

David, the ones I use are Gauge Mates. They sell a "Silver" pair for about $45 and a "Gold" pair for about $145. Buy the "Silver". There is a lip around the top that sits on the extractor. Grind everything off except what sits on the extractor you will then be able to remove a shell without removing the Gauge Mate. I have both and bought the Gold before I knew of this trick. The Gold comes with a brush, little tool to remove the Gauge Mate, and a case. It's not worth the money. Oh ya, the Golds only have enough lip to sit on the extractor. They work real good - had a pair that were 12ga to 28ga. Seemed to break skeet targets ok. They claim your chokes still work and not hardly any pressure loss. Paul

[David Holes]

can you grind that lip off if going from a 10 to a 12. will it compromise the metal ?