Short Ten Winchester Super Field (WSF) Loads: Test Results

[Victor Wasylyna]

I just received test results for three Winchester Super Field (WSF) waterfowl loads (using bismuth). The components are: (1) a 10 gauge Remington (green) hull (cut to 2 7/8''); (2) a Winchester 209 primer; (3) an SP-10 wad; (4) 1/4'' 16 gauge fiber filler in the wad cup; (5) 1.25 ounces of #4 bismuth; (6) one 16 gauge overshot card; and (7) a 6 point fold crimp. Load #1 has 23.0 grains of WSF, Load #2 has 24.5 grains of WSF, and Load #3 has 26.0 grains of WSF.

Load #3 hit the mark: 1204 fps @ 6805 psi. Assuming Load #3 patterns well, it will take ducks next season.

Also, as a comparative example, Load #4 was assembled the same as Load #2, but with 1.25 ounces of #4 lead (instead of #4 bismuth). There is no significant difference between the bismuth load (1056 fps @ 5900 psi) and the lead load (1055 fps @ 5748 psi).

-Victor

[charlie cleveland]

them ducks are in trouble...charlie

[Patrick Barrett]

Forgive me for asking but what are you shooting these loads out of? Very interesting load charts! wonderful !

[Victor Wasylyna]

... what are you shooting these loads out of?

The Duck Hammer:

[John Dallas]

Is there anything neater (and better eating) than a bull can?

[Matt Buckley]

That picture belongs on the front of the website for a month. Awesome pic.

[Patrick Barrett]

Very nice picture! Your load data is an inspiration! Im shooting a 10 ga Remington double 1894 steel 32" bbls. I have not owned it that long but she feels very similar to my Parker. Solid and robust....like a bigger brother. The workmanship in these fine old guns is second to none.

Thank you for sharing.

[Joe Wheeler]

Thank you for these.

The powder WST is the Winchester WSF Ball Powder correct?

[Aaron Beck]

How are you metering the bismuth, by weight or volume?

[Victor Wasylyna]

The powder WST is the Winchester WSF Ball Powder correct?

Can’t answer your question, as I don’t know. I do know that WSF is Winchester Super Field.

-Victor

[Victor Wasylyna]

How are you metering the bismuth, by weight or volume?

For testing purposes, everything was precisely weighted.

In practice, shot and powder are volumetrically metered using the appropriate MEC charge bar and bushing.

-Victor

[CraigThompson]

For testing purposes, everything was precisely weighted.

In practice, shot and powder are volumetrically metered using the appropriate MEC charge bar and bushing.

-Victor

I’m like you when I first started loading Bismith I weighed each load , now I just drop it as I would lead shot .

[CraigThompson]

Thank you for these.

The powder WST is the Winchester WSF Ball Powder correct?

No it isn’t ! There’s WSF and there’s also WST . As stated WSF is Winchester Super Field and WST is Winchester Super Target . There’s also a WSH Winchester Super Handicap . I took pics of WST and WSH but sorry to say all my WSF is in at the shop .

[Joe Wheeler]

Thanks for clarifying it for me.

[Rob Lewis]

Your post is old, but I just wanted to Thank You for sharing your pressure test data.

[Victor Wasylyna]

Rob:

You are welcome. This is still my go-to load for 10 gauge. I use 24 grains of WSF and 1.25 ounces of shot (lead or bismuth, depending on the target). Smokes clays and kills ducks dead.

-Victor

[CraigThompson]

I’ve got 8 plus pounds of WSF . Was using it for 16 gauge , but since I e just about quit shooting the 16’s now I think I’ll try some of your WSF 26 grains with 1 1/4 ounces of shot . And just so happens I have a fair amount of fired 10 gauge hulls both green Remington’s as well as red RST/Cheddites . Perhaps a box of each .

[Victor Wasylyna]

Craig:

Start with 24 grains. I think you will find 26 grains a bit too spicy (high velocity).

-Victor

[CraigThompson]

Craig:

Start with 24 grains. I think you will find 26 grains a bit too spicy (high velocity).

-Victor

Well I thought that as well after making my post . I took screenshots of all three pressure test sheets . I’ve gotten a pretty decent number of 1 1/4 ounce loads , several 1 1/8 ounce loads , a couple ounce loads and one 1 1/2 ounce load . Seems SR7625 , Unique , Red Dot , Green Dot , WSF , W572 and Universal Clays all fit in , in atleast one weight range and some several weight ranges .

[CraigThompson]

I loaded 25 with REM hulls using the MEC 25 bushing which supposedly drops 23.8 of WST and did the same with RST/Cheddar cheese hulls only difference I used a 3/8” 16 wad in the RST’s . Today I decided to try the MEC 24 which supposedly drops 23 grains of WST . Tuesday I shot two of the 23.8 loads and they weren’t bad in an EH 2 frame 28” .

[CraigThompson]

I’ve still got a fair amount of Winchester Super Handicap . They don’t show any 1 1/4 to adapt to the 10 but I see several for ounce and 1 1/8 ounce . Might give the 1 1/8 with WSH after lunch today . :whistle:

[Samuel Conrey]

Has anyone here tried a 1-1/8 oz. load using WSF? I am trying to find a good starting point for a powder charge.

Victor, I just saw your reply to my other thread. Thank you!

[Terry Schneider]

WST is Winchester Super Target