Pointer Grade Superposed

[Bill Holcombe]

I know it isn't a parker, but I thought some of you miggt enjoy it. It is double signed by Vandersmissen? Haven't seen much about him. Excellent shape and seems factory original acvording to what Mr. Reis told me. Cabellas sold it to me for just over $2500. The gun library guy said it had been cut or else they would have wanted 6k for it.....It may very well be cut with that spacer, but the recoil pad is factory as is the LOP. I am halfway tempted to yank off the pad and put one of those red pads that is on my Parker, but that would affect originality. Forgot to add that it has 28" barrels. Factory length. A little short for most broadways.

Anyway, I am thrilled with it, it hasn't been shot much and it is gorgeous. Now to figure out what I shall sell to make up the money before my wife hunts me.

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[Rich Anderson]

Nice find, you have to love the "experts" at the gun library:rotf:

[Bill Bates]

LOL...A wee better than any Pointer Grade I've seen...that one is worth a letter from the Browning historian for sure.

[James J. Roberts]

Bill,Thanks for sharing the photo's of the Browning Superposed with engraving,Gaston Vandermissen also engraved scrolls & game scene's on A-5 Browning's. J.J.

[John Campbell]

At the risk of perpetuating a non-Parker thread, I have one observation:

The key to this gun's real worth may well be "Richard J. Levin" as inlaid in gold on the frame.

[Bill Holcombe]

Yeah I know the gold inscription is factory from talking to the browning historian. It wad sold to someone in Los Angeles in Dec 1964 but I haven't really found anything yet.

[George Davis]

I also really appreciate the "superposed" and shoot them on regular bases. Broadway with 32 inch barrels is hard to beat.

[Brian Dudley]

That is a super gun! And i highly doubt the stock is cut down. Is it a Browning marked pad? Even if the pad is not original, the value would not be effected as much as they figured. You got a great buy. I would contact the Browning historian on it for sure.

[Bill Holcombe]

That is a super gun! And i highly doubt the stock is cut down. Is it a Browning marked pad? Even if the pad is not original, the value would not be effected as much as they figured. You got a great buy. I would contact the Browning historian on it for sure.

It is a Browning pad which according to Mr. Reis the Browning historian, it came facrory with it. Signature is also factory.

[Bill Holcombe]

Also, that was what I was thinkimg regarding it being cut. When I first saw it in Ft Worth it was simply labled Browning Superposed so I figured thwy didn't have a clue what it was. I contacted Mr. Reis to ensure it was what I thought and not a later acid etched P grade. When he confirmed it for meI bought it. I was shocked when the fairly knowledgeable Gun Library director said it was a nice pointer and that it would be 6k if not for the cut stock... I can't see that it is cut and even if it is, that is way to big a discount for that minor an alteration. Its the same price I got my pigeon grade that has a screwin briley choke in top barrel....

[John Campbell]

If Mr. Levin lived in LA in 1964, this Superposed might well have been ordered/sold through Pachmayr in downtown LA. Their records may be traceable...

[Bill Holcombe]

Any idea where to look for them? I have found a DR RJ Lewin who graduated from UCLA med school in 1962 according to LA Times and set up shop in long beach I think.

[Brian Dudley]

The engravers signature is marked in a similar way that the earlier master Browning engraver Funkin signed his guns.

[John Campbell]

Your best and most efficient course is to pursue Browning records first. The gun was special-ordered through some US shop and a trail of it should still exist at Browning UT or Liege. At least hopefully. That might give you a name, address, time frame, etc.

Although not the top-of-the-line, this gun was NOT cheap. Especially in 1964. Expensive guns have records. Or should.

[Patrick Lien]

Alex Kerr,s shop was known to order/supply guns with owners name engraved on the sides.

Patrick

[Bill Holcombe]

Your best and most efficient course is to pursue Browning records first. The gun was special-ordered through some US shop and a trail of it should still exist at Browning UT or Liege. At least hopefully. That might give you a name, address, time frame, etc.

Although not the top-of-the-line, this gun was NOT cheap. Especially in 1964. Expensive guns have records. Or should.

I have already spoken with Mr. Reis the browning historian, he was having trouble reading the record sheets. I will speak to him again, I was just curious if you knew where to check pachmyr?

[John Campbell]

Pachmayr as we knew it is gone. Absorbed by Lyman. I'm not sure if the sales records went with the rest. But you can check with them:

https://www.officer.com/tactical/firearms/company/10032156/pachmayr-a-division-of-lyman-products-corp

[Kevin McCormack]

The Pointer Grade is a beautiful and scarce gun. They were only manufactured from 1959 thru very late 1964. The engraving pattern went through 3 iterations by FN's top engravers before being "standardized' as the gun went into production. The final version was selected in November of 1960 based on the exquisite work of Marie Louis Magis, FN's top lady master engraver, whose rendition of the game scenes executed on a 20 gauge gun, surrounded by the scrollwork of Jacquez Lodewyc remains a hallmark of FN engraving at its very best. My RKLT Pointer Grade factory 2-barrel set is the work of Mdm. Magis, and I cherish it.

[FRANK HALSEY]

Mr. Cobb, you got a steal !!!! the last three that I saw at an auction went for the $7,000-$9,000. I don't think your stock was cut. Get the letter from Browning hist. about the length of pull. I just looked at my Pointer gr., it is new in the box, and it has a recoil pad just like yours. That is why I still go to gun shop and the big box store because their "experts" sometime real miss the mark. Sometimes it is high, mostly, but I have gotten a couple of bargains. I got my Pointer grade from Gander Mountain. They did not know what it was so I made an offer and they took it. They are a rare grade but they are nice. Enjoy yours and when you go to sell it, don't make the same mistake. Have all your documents in place and you will enjoy the profit you will make when you figure it time to sell. There are a few guns that went up in value as much as this one you bought for $ 2,500. : )

[Bill Holcombe]

The Pointer Grade is a beautiful and scarce gun. They were only manufactured from 1959 thru very late 1964. The engraving pattern went through 3 iterations by FN's top engravers before being "standardized' as the gun went into production. The final version was selected in November of 1960 based on the exquisite work of Marie Louis Magis, FN's top lady master engraver, whose rendition of the game scenes executed on a 20 gauge gun, surrounded by the scrollwork of Jacquez Lodewyc remains a hallmark of FN engraving at its very best. My RKLT Pointer Grade factory 2-barrel set is the work of Mdm. Magis, and I cherish it.

I have seen a Magis pointer once and it was a work of art. Congrats.