View Full Version : For you model 12 lovers
Brian Hornacek
09-24-2017, 05:23 PM
All 16's and 20's, some 30", some, target, some solid rib......wipe down day.
Steve Huffman
09-24-2017, 05:53 PM
Looks like you like them too ! Like to know how you made them stand like that ???
Kevin McCormack
09-25-2017, 12:22 PM
A fine and very rare original M12 20 ga. Trap Grade, so marked, with solid rib and some other factory 'nickings' sold over the weekend at the Vintage Gunners Cup.
Brian Hornacek
09-25-2017, 02:15 PM
Wow tough to find!!! The 7th gun from the right with lighter wood is a 16 gauge 28" solid rib marked "Standard Trap" or "Model 12 Trap" (can't remember exact writing) on the magazine tube extension with the ultra rare "Imp. mod" stamped choke. Its condition is fair with refinished correct wood. I have 2 other small gauge trap marked model 12's in storage, a 20 ga 30" and another 16 ga in 28". My gun addiction started with model 12's and 42's. I always found myself selling the fine examples and keeping the guns with a few issues.
Bill Murphy
09-25-2017, 04:36 PM
A commonly found gun collecting strategy. Does anyone have an explanation? Another common collecting strategy is "Buying high and selling low".
Mills Morrison
09-25-2017, 05:03 PM
There is a fine line between a diamond in the rough and a money pit. Finding where the line is can take a lifetime.
I have a 16 gauge Model 12 that is a diamond in the rough for sure. One of these days, I am going to get a 12 gauge and a 20 gauge.
Larry Stauch
09-30-2017, 01:42 PM
A fine and very rare original M12 20 ga. Trap Grade, so marked, with solid rib and some other factory 'nickings' sold over the weekend at the Vintage Gunners Cup.
Hi Kevin; do you have any idea what the model 12 20 gauge traps sold for?
Frank Srebro
09-30-2017, 08:50 PM
$3450 on the tag when I saw it.
Larry Stauch
09-30-2017, 09:21 PM
Thank you Frank.
edgarspencer
10-01-2017, 07:35 AM
I believe I got this for my 12th birthday. It's a Super Field Grade, but the box label calls it a Super Grade. I always liked the wood on it.
Larry Stauch
10-01-2017, 12:15 PM
Yeah, I think I got a Tonka truck and a roll of Life Savers.:rotf:
Reggie Bishop
10-01-2017, 06:39 PM
Edgar that is a beautiful 20 gauge Model 12.
Jack Kuzepski
10-02-2017, 02:42 PM
I have a model 12 problem. While there over a million of them made and parts are still available. I have one in 12 ga that I need a fore end for. It is the featherweight model. Any ideas on where to get one?? I got the gun from an old friend, it even still has the screws for the fore end, just no wood.
Thanks,
Jack Kuzepski
Frank Srebro
10-02-2017, 03:22 PM
Make that over 2 million Model 12's made from 1912 to 1980. I PRESUME the Featherweight wood is the same as regular Model 12's made circa 1958-62 but I don't know for sure. Model 12 forends are commonly seen on E Bay.
Jack Kuzepski
10-03-2017, 03:05 PM
No, unfortunately a Featherweight model 12 fore end is held on by 2 screws kind of in the same way as the older model 97's (model 97's use 3 screws).
Jack Kuzepski
Mike Koneski
10-04-2017, 09:26 AM
Edgar, that does have a pretty slab o' wood on it!!
Mike Koneski
10-04-2017, 09:28 AM
I did make out better than a Tonka truck and a roll of life savers. Not a Win model 12, but I got an Ithaca M37 Featherlite at 12 years old. Good stuff guys!!
Mike Koneski
10-04-2017, 09:31 AM
All 16's and 20's, some 30", some, target, some solid rib......wipe down day.
Check out the Cutt's Compensator on that RH shotgun!! Just saw one here last week on a shell shucker too.
Brian Hornacek
10-04-2017, 03:23 PM
Check out the Cutt's Compensator on that RH shotgun!! Just saw one here last week on a shell shucker too.
Unfortunately it's not a factory Cutt's but it was a factory 16 ga Skeet with WS-1 choke and it was a factory ordered gun for sure. The stock is factory special order with a ridiculous amount of drop at heal. 3 1/2" as I remember, shouldered it is like a Kentucky long rifle.
Mike Franzen
10-19-2017, 03:15 AM
Love seeing all these model 12’s. My second favorite shotgun. Edgar yours is really special. If you ever want to sell it .....
Dave Noreen
10-19-2017, 10:25 AM
My favorite Model 12 memory was watching Dempsie kill six birds in six shots on the covey rise with his Model 12 --
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Jay Gardner
10-19-2017, 12:22 PM
Curse you all. Just when I decided to sell my 16 M12 you post this and I realize just how much I like the gun. I'm keeping mine and will probably hunt it this weekend. You all are bad influences.
JDG
charlie cleveland
10-19-2017, 05:40 PM
he was a good shot for sure...charlie
Bill Murphy
10-19-2017, 06:18 PM
Researcher, is there a video?
Rick Losey
10-19-2017, 07:59 PM
Researcher, is there a video?
if so -is it a talkie
Gary Laudermilch
10-20-2017, 08:36 AM
That picture brings back memories. While working as a forester on Ft. Campbell there was an older guy that worked as a laborer on the forestry crew. I had been walk up hunting quail and I guess he felt bad for me as he invited me to hunt with him. On the appointed day I arrived to see him with a 20 ga. model 12 with the barrel sawed off just in front of the magazine tube, no blueing whatsoever, and not much finish on the stock. He had two of the roughest looking pointers I've ever seen. Well, so much for first impressions. Those two dogs knew the business of finding quail and were rock solid. The dogs soon had a covey pinned and when we walked in and the birds flushed all hell broke loose. I swear the old guy had 5 birds on the ground before I fired my first shot. His comment, "Boy, when they gets up you gotta shoot". I'll never forget that day and his model 12.
Frank Allegra
10-21-2017, 08:55 PM
Model 12s still hold a special place in my heart. It was the gun that started my hunting and collecting interest. In fact, it was the first gun on the list to start out this years dove season.
http://parkerguns.org/forums/picture.php?albumid=784&pictureid=9576
edgarspencer
10-21-2017, 08:59 PM
Frank, that's a beautiful stock.
Frank Allegra
10-21-2017, 09:48 PM
Edgar,
Thank you but it doesn't even come close to the nice one that you have.
Henry McRoberts
10-22-2017, 08:49 AM
Are those two 28ga, shells I see there? If that is a M12, 28 you have one great gun.
Frank Allegra
10-22-2017, 10:42 AM
Henry,
The yellow shells were for that particular gun. The red empties were reserved for a little hunting partner ( Model 42).
Brian Hornacek
10-22-2017, 12:01 PM
Here is a cool trap grade that was past return, loose action, broken butt stock, but it had the base for a refinish. I had it fixed up a bit by the Lemieux team in Quebec. They are hands down the best in Canada.
charlie cleveland
10-22-2017, 01:45 PM
nice...charlie
Merv Boyd
10-22-2017, 10:26 PM
WOW! Very classic looking.
Makes me wnat to start a M12 project.
Frank Srebro
10-25-2017, 04:32 PM
I got my first Model 12, a 30-inch Heavy Duck with solid rib, more than 4 decades ago. Her first hunt was for Canadas, Blues and ducks on James Bay in Ontario, southern end of Hudson Bay and that's where I learned first hand what M-12 Duck guns can do with 3-inchers. Since then we've hunted together quite a bit, close and far away. She's still with me today along with several other M-12's. So far this year I've had her on the water twice. Duck weather isn't cooperating .....
First two pics are digitized copies of old 35mm's taken back then, sorry for the poor quality. That's me on the right and friend Eddie on the left. Second pic shows her with some Blues on the same trip, and third one is today. Every time I pick her up I'm a young man again.
Reggie Bishop
10-25-2017, 04:40 PM
Super nice gun with a great history!
edgarspencer
10-25-2017, 06:03 PM
I got this little 16 for some money a guy owed me. 4 digit SN and takes 2 1/2 shells. I don't even mind the very early Poly Choke. I am told the stock is original
John Cinkoske
10-26-2017, 05:46 AM
Back in the late 70's, I had a Model 12 3" Heavy Duck with a 30" solid rib and a recoil pad.
It was the most fierce kicker, even with trap loads.
Tough on both the face and the shoulder.
Needless to say, it went on down the road... :crying:
Frank Srebro
10-26-2017, 07:56 AM
Well John, that's an interesting perspective. M-12 Ducks have only about 2-3/8 to 2-1/2" drop at heel (5 of them I've owned) and weigh about 8-3/4 pounds; they made their reputation with High Velocity 3-inch/1-5/8 ounce loads and most would consider them light kickers with trap loads. That's in comparison to M-12 Trap guns made for volume shooting that ruled the clay fields for so many years, generally weighing in at 8-1/4 pounds and with higher stocks to be cheeked tightly and thus some facial recoil. I have to say your post doesn't fit with physics and my experiences. :)
John Cinkoske
10-26-2017, 07:34 PM
All I can say it was the worst kicking 12 gauge gun I ever fired, even with trap loads, and I have fired quite a few. :eek: Your mileage may vary. Regular Model 12's and 97's are no problem for me. Nor are Remington 870's and 31's.
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