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Russ Jackson
09-09-2017, 05:56 PM
You fellows that know me a bit know I really enjoy searching out things that are a bit different or unique , and I have a hard time passing on them even if I have no particular use for them at the moment lets just say the thrill is in the chase ! I am always in the search for the VH Grade Parkers with Damascus steel barrels although I have never ran across any of the originals I keep looking and this brings me to the latest item ! I figured we could use a " New Conversation Piece " and I was so thrilled to find this you would have thought I found an A1 ,Special That had been in hiding since new ,although it is not the entire gun but only the Barrels , I think this is so unique ! How many have seen another and if you have the other half of " MY GUN ":) ,Feel free to give me a PM ,I would like to have it ?:whistle:

Jeff Kuss
09-09-2017, 07:28 PM
I seem to recall that there was a run of twist barreled trojans sold to the Iver Johnson Co.

Russ Jackson
09-09-2017, 07:45 PM
Thank You Jeff ,I had never heard that ! The Parker Story says they are very rare indeed there are a number of them but at the time of printing only 2 had been located ! Please note the X stamping ,this is how it is listed in the Parker Serialization Book ,also the # 1 Frame and it is a 12 Gauge ,something very unique !

charlie cleveland
09-09-2017, 08:18 PM
good find russ they are really good looking barrels...this is the first time i have heard of damacus barrels in the v grade and trogan grade...charlie

Russ Jackson
09-09-2017, 08:54 PM
Thanks Charlie , wish I had found the whole gun !:rotf:

David Holes
09-10-2017, 10:33 PM
That is way cool, The first thing I noticed was the rounded extension. Thanks for sharing, very unique. Dave

Russ Jackson
09-10-2017, 10:45 PM
Dave ,That was the second thing I noticed and I couldn't believe my eyes because I had already realized it was a Twist Steel Barrel ! I also noticed the X Stamping and ran for my serialization book ,that's when I decided that in fact is was way cool !:)

Mike Franzen
09-11-2017, 06:25 AM
Just imagine what those would look like mounted on a Trojan.

Bill Murphy
09-11-2017, 08:11 AM
It shouldn't be hard to find a 16 gauge Trojan to complete your gun.

calvin humburg
09-11-2017, 08:46 AM
It may be out there someone could of sent it back for safe barrels:)

Russ Jackson
09-11-2017, 08:47 PM
Bill ,You are reading my mind ! Calvin ,I thought the same thing , I would bet the rest of it is around somewhere just finding it will be the thing !

Mike Franzen
09-11-2017, 10:01 PM
Everybody check you 16 gauge Trojan serial numbers.

Bill Murphy
09-12-2017, 08:06 AM
It actually could now be a 12 or 16 gauge. If a barrel change took place at the factory, a #1 frame 12 gauge set is a possibility.

Dean Romig
09-12-2017, 08:26 AM
Am I reading it correctly as 173981 ?





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Russ Jackson
09-12-2017, 09:09 PM
Gentlemen ,it is stamped 12 gauge on the rear barrel lug and a 12 Gauge shell fits the chamber perfectly , It is a 12 Gauge ! I am wondering if that is what the " Experimental " part of the equation was / is ? What do you guys think , they all show as 12 Gauges ,maybe they are all built on the # 1 Frame ?

Russ Jackson
09-12-2017, 09:12 PM
Am I reading it correctly as 173981

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Yes Dean ,That is correct , Pretty neat isn't it !

Mike Franzen
09-12-2017, 09:17 PM
Yep, you're right Russ. It is a 12 gauge

Dean Romig
09-12-2017, 09:32 PM
However, there is nothing experimental about a 1-frame twelve gauge Parker. They were some of the first Parkers made and 12's were made on the 1-frame into the 1920's.
However, a 12 gauge 1-frame Trojan with Twist barrels I'm sure was an experimental concept.






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Russ Jackson
09-12-2017, 09:44 PM
Dean ,I may be wrong about this but I was /am under the impression that the X Stamping ,stood for experimental ,do you guys know ,is this correct ?

Dean Romig
09-13-2017, 07:50 AM
If the X was stamped adjacent to the serial number I would guess something like that but there are X's and +'s stamped on the barrels of thousands of Parkers so I would say no in these cases.





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Bruce Day
09-13-2017, 06:28 PM
Twenty or 22 VH 12s with Twist Steel barrels were made for the Iver Johnson company and sold for $25 each if I remember correctly. We posted photos on the forum about six to eight years ago.

The poster's photos show a Trojan Twist barrel set, not Damascus. I have seen a V grade with one barrel of fluid steel and the other Twist Steel. They were blued, Parker factory blued in my judgement.

Russ Jackson
09-13-2017, 08:58 PM
Bruce ,That would be correct ,in the Serialization Book it is listed as this ;
" PX H O C 12 28 "
P - Plain Twist
X - Experimental ???
O -No Extras
C - Capped Pistol Grip , Maybe Capped ,maybe standard Trojan Grip ?
12 - Gauge
28 - 28" Barrels