1891 Parker Brother 16 Ga Shotgun

[josephlong]

My father left me a PB 1891 Top Lever 16 Ga. Double Barrel Shotgun. I'm trying to find out just what I have, Here's what I know so far. It's original & unmodified, all serial numbers match and in good condition. Grade 1, Frame size 0, 30" Laminated Barrels with extractors & Barrel weight 3/12? According to recently received updated info there were only 9 of these shotguns made & I would still like to know everything possible about this shotgun.

http://parkerguns.org/forums/picture.php?albumid=775&pictureid=9449
http://parkerguns.org/forums/picture.php?albumid=775&pictureid=9451
http://parkerguns.org/forums/picture.php?albumid=775&pictureid=9450

[Jim DiSpagno]

Serial number and good pictures will help a lot.

[josephlong]

68908 is the serial number and I think I have attached a photos
http://parkerguns.org/forums/picture.php?albumid=775&pictureid=9448

[Jim DiSpagno]

Ok. Thanks, but it has extractors, not ejectors. And there were only24 grade 1 top lever Hammergun's in 16 ga made and only 9 with 30" laminated steel barrels according to the Parker Story. Value is always dependent upon condition and by the pictures, it's hard to tell but IMHO, about 50-60% so I would guess around 4-4.5 K in value. That's just me. Others will chime in. Barrel condition and wall thickness is a big factor in price because you are basically buying for shootability Jim

[josephlong]

Thank you for taking time to help me out with more information, I will update my post later and add more photographs. Thank you

[Jim DiSpagno]

You're welcome

[David Dwyer]

Joeseph
Nice gun. I had a very simular one I sold 18 mo ago. I think Jim is accurate as to valus as long as the barrels are OK.

[Dave Moore]

I have a Top lever hammer 0 frame 30" 16ga grade 2 from 1892

[Dean Romig]

Mr. Moore, that is the first grade 2 of that vintage with Laminated Steel barrels that I've ever seen. What does your research letter say about it?





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[edgarspencer]

That's a very lovely 16, Mr.Moore. I could be wrong, but I think it is a Grade 1. TPS doesn't indicate any Laminated barrels made in Grade 2, nor does the gun have the birds and scroll engraving on the locks and receiver bottom.

[Eric Eis]

That's a very lovely 16, Mr.Moore. I could be wrong, but I think it is a Grade 1. TPS doesn't indicate any Laminated barrels made in Grade 2, nor does the gun have the birds and scroll engraving on the locks and receiver bottom.

It looks like a grade one to me too. Very nice gun

[Dean Romig]

The "graver walk" on the lock plates is typical of the Grade 1's and a Grade 0 would have only had a simple straight-line engraving there. You're lucky to have one with scroll flourishes engraved on the hammers - most Grade 1's didn't have that feature.

This all is said knowing that different engravers in different periods may have engraved more or even less embellishments on Grade 1 Parkers.

Some Grade 1 hammer guns even had nice scroll embellishments at the rear and at the front of the lock plates.





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[Jim DiSpagno]

Good eye Eric, I was just going to post the same sentiments. That is a Grade 1 by all appearances

[Dave Moore]

You are all correct I was thinking the second grade up, forgot the 0 grade designation

[edgarspencer]

I forgot to mention, Mr. Moore, that your photos are superb.

[josephlong]

Joeseph
Nice gun. I had a very simular one I sold 18 mo ago. I think Jim is accurate as to valus as long as the barrels are OK.

Ok, thank you.

[josephlong]

I have a Top lever hammer 0 frame 30" 16ga grade 2 from 1892

It looks good, very nice photographs