"NEW" FOX "A" GRADES AT CABELAS

[Stephen Hodges]

I do not recall if it has been discussed here, but Cabelas has begun advertising the "New" Fox A Grade guns for sale in their Gun Library. Seems kind of odd to see "New" Fox A Grades for sale. I wonder if they will catch on and be successful?

http://www.cabelas.com/product/savage-fox-a-grade-20-gauge/2580429.uts?Ntk=GunLibrary&searchPath=%2Fcatalog%2Fsearch.cmd%3Fform_state%3D searchForm%26N%3D0%26Ntk%3DGunLibrary%26Ntt%3DFOX% 26x%3D17%26y%3D17&Ntt=FOX

[Dave Moore]

It looks like an RBL with the action shaped like a Fox to me.

[Dean Romig]

Looks Spanish but it looks nice.






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[Daniel Carter]

Shooting Sportsman has an article about them, made by Connecticut Shotgun for Savage.

[Dean Romig]

There ya go! Tha case colors look like Tony's.
I wonder how this will impact the CSMC Foxes.





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[Steve Huffman]

Sorry but I think its Ugly !

[Kirk Potter]

I'd like to see one in person before I formed an opinion, but I love seeing new quality side by sides being produced.

http://savagearms.com/fox

[Brian Dudley]

What bothers me the most about these guns is the multiple different patterns of "engraving" on the different areas of the gun. Why not make everything match?

[Kirk Potter]

http://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-for-sale-online/shotguns/fox-shotguns/fox-a-grade-in-20-ga-new-in-box.cfm?gun_id=100896734

They look nice in the different articles and on the savage website, but seeing an actual one.. Eh, when you can get NIB reproductions for that price..

[wayne goerres]

I am pretty sure you can buy an original A grade 20ga for less money.

[Dave Moore]

I am pretty sure you can buy an original A grade 20ga for less money.

Not a good one with ejectors

[Tom Jay]

Saw this at Galazan's while dropping off a couple of M21's for some work. Must have been a custom CSMC Fox for someone. Two barrels were lying next to it.

[Matt Buckley]

I'm sure these new Fox's are excellent guns mechanically because Galazan builds excellent guns but it bothers me that they are calling it an A grade and doesn't look anything like an A grade but looks like some kind of morphed Sterlingworth. They could have done a little better job with the engraving. I'm not a big fan of the screw in chokes either but these are nicely done from what I have seen in the pictures.

[Rich Anderson]

I saw one advertised for right around $4500-4600. I bought a A grade Fox 16 with a straight grip for that much. I'm not impressed with them and I doubt they will cut into the CSM line of Fox guns.

[Phil Yearout]

I think they're an insult to Fox A grade owners:)! Make a gun, give it a name, but don't infringe on those of us who know the difference! Call it a Fox if you must, call it a W Grade or a Z Grade or whatever you want to, but please...

[Victor Wasylyna]

I am intrigued by the concept, but fit/finish seems to be lacking. Or perhaps that's what $4500 buys these days.

[John Walters]

I do not own a Fox yet!! just got my first Parker Hammer gun however MR McIntosh stated that the Fox 20 ga was the best 20 ga ever made in the USA saying it was perfectly proportioned. It was only his choice and I respect his opinion and am sure it is in the running for one of the best American made 20 ga guns they have fewer parts and strong as Tigers breath. Connecticut Shotgun makes some very fine shotguns they have been making FOX patterned guns for years. I wish I had the funds to buy some of their work.

[Dean Romig]

It looks like a refinished (not restored) Strelingworth with upgraded wood. Some folks 'cup o' tea' but not mine.






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[Russ Jackson]

Not my cup of tea either , I would look for a20 Gauge A Grade and put my 5 G's to it before I would consider the new gun ! I wonder why CSMC doesn't put the Anson Deeley latch system on the forends of their guns since they are to immulate the American Made Doubles ,in my mind it would make a worth while addition ! They look like a RBL to me with FOX stamped in the receiver ! Do you suppose these might catch the eye of the younger generation ,now that could be a bright spot !

[Kirk Potter]

Connecticut Shotgun makes some very fine shotguns they have been making FOX patterned guns for years. I wish I had the funds to buy some of their work.

Same.. A custom CSMC Fox is one of my dream guns. Someday.

[Stephen Hodges]

I applaud the effort in this undertaking and hope it is successful. I like seeing anything that is "Made in America" and not some foreign country thousands of miles away. These create American jobs probably paying decent wages. We will never have the so called "golden age" of American doubles again, but perhaps as some have said maybe a new generation may find these there cup of tea. I hope so.

[Rich Anderson]

I don't know how much they will appeal to a younger generation at that price point. Lets face it $5K is still $5K and when you compare one of these to a real Fox or a Parker there is no comparison.

I have a CSM Fox, an FE 410 and it's a wonderful gun. Someday a long barreled 28 will be added.

[David Noble]

I find the wood to metal fit to be objectionable, especially on the forearm. I've seen Savage Fox Model B's with better. Also the quality of wood seems to vary quite a bit. One of the guns linked to in this thread has way less quality wood than the others.
Just my humble opinion, no disrespect or harm intended.

[Paul Ehlers]

This is just a reshaped frame on the RBL platform. It is another offering similar to what Tony did with the Inverness O/U platform when he reshaped the action & called it a Model-21 Winchester.

I jumped on the band wagon on both the RBL & Inverness initial offerings. Both guns were nice for what they were with the upgraded wood on them. Neither gun now resides in my gatherings for the same reasons. My personal peeves for the money on these guns was wood to metal fit "the wood was oversized to the metal everywhere" the laser engraving just doesn't look right to my eye, the laser cut checkering back ground was burnt black and smelled like it had been in a wood stove.

After having the guns in hand. I quickly came to the conclusion that for me there were better choices out there for the same price point. I've looked at the current so called A-Grades on-line and know that one is not in my future.

[wayne goerres]

I bought my A grade (with ejectors)about five years ago and even though the original barrels were bobed it cost me less than 500.00. It is now restored (Thanks to Brian Dudley) and has two sets of barrels each with their own fore arm for less than 20% of the cost of one of the new knock offs.

[Bill Murphy]

20 gauge?

[Bobby Cash]

Same.. A custom CSMC Fox is one of my dream guns. Someday.
My soon to be DE 28 gauge 2 barrel set.

http://i.imgur.com/QBTMM0v.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/TrxYvhe.jpg

[wayne goerres]

Yes Bill it's a 20ga.

[Michael Murphy]

As others have said, Like to see one first. However, for the money, If you've always wanted a small bore, 20 ga., straight grip Fox, this may be your only chance. For that money though, I'd be inclined to get a Parker Repro.

[Dean Romig]

Has Tony outFoxed himself with this 'undertaking'? (No pun intended...)





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[Steve Cambria]

[QUOTE=John Walters;222670] MR McIntosh stated that the Fox 20 ga was the best 20 ga ever made in the USA saying it was perfectly proportioned. It was only his choice and I respect his opinion and am sure it is in the running for one of the best American made 20 ga guns they have fewer parts and strong as Tigers breath.

I tend to agree. Some wise-ass recently called 'em:"AS GOOD AS IT GETS..."

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[Dean Romig]

Now that's a Fox I could shoot with pride!





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[Kenny Graft]

It is a RBL made to look Foxy...(-: SXS Ohio

[Justin Julian]

If they are going to call it a Fox A grade, it at least needs the trademark deep relief engraving of the A grade. It is hard to imagine this offering will generate much enthusiasm.

[davidboyles]

I had one in my hands today at Cabelas Buda Tx. Wouldn't spend my $5K for a Czech looking Fox that is less than plain looking and has no nostalgia look at all. I moved over to a Beretta SS 20 with full engraved false sideplates for same money. No I did not spend any money !! Bought some Winch 20 ga Whitewing shells #7 shot and left . Less than $60 per case.

[keavin nelson]

Had one in hand at Hamburg Cabelas, and not really impressed for the price point. Wood was nothing special, engraving was sparse, nice colors, but???? For 5 bills not in my future.