.410 VH

[Reggie Bishop]

Parker .410 popped up on Guns International today and sold promptly? Hope it was a member here! Looks like a nice one.

[Dean Romig]

Interesting... The price must have been very attractive. Do you know what the asking price was?





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[Reggie Bishop]

Dean I do not. I looked earlier today and it wasn't listed. Looked again this afternoon and it was there with "sold". So apparently it was only there a brief time before it sold.

[John Allen]

The same dealer has 2 34" VH guns listed.Both are pretty clean looking guns.He must have picked up a small collection.

[Russ Jackson]

I just ran across them myself ,would like to know where the 410 was priced !

[Ian Byrkit]

Did Parker ever checker D grade side panels like that 34" DHE has?

[Dean Romig]

Never say never.

There's no good reason why they wouldn't, though it wasn't a standard feature on Grade 3 guns.




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[Kenny Graft]

I think it had 27,000.00 price tag listed when I first saw the listing. I would like to have a Parker Brothers 410 to go with my Parker Reproduction 410/28 set that I own. )-: SXS Ohio

[Bill Murphy]

Does one of the pictures show a 00 frame stamping?

[Bill Murphy]

Shep, checkered cheeks are not rare on D Grade Parkers and the one in the GI ad looks original. Original checkered cheeks are recessed and have a angled shelf from the stock to the checkering.

[Daniel G Rainey]

Thanks I saw a D in a pawn shop a couple of weeks ago with checkered cheeks and have noticed them before to they seem to appear on older guns ?

[Bill Murphy]

Any gun, old or new, if ordered that way.

[Daniel G Rainey]

Thanks

[Bill Murphy]

The checkered cheeks on the Annie Oakley "Gold Hearts" DH gun were billed out at $3.00 in 1901. Oddly, all the gold plating and extra embellishments on that gun were not billed. One extra gold heart seems to be billed at $5.00 or $15.00 depending on how you read the order.

[Ian Byrkit]

I am really trying to improve my eye on determining when things have been messed with. I believe that the DHE has been restocked and the way the checkering meets at the top is one reason, comb to grip height seems a little off too. Can anyone weigh in and say why they think it is original or not? Just trying to further my education.

Thanks!

[Dean Romig]

Where are the pictures of this DHE??





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[Ian Byrkit]

Sorry, this would have helped. http://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-for-sale-online/shotguns/parker-shotguns/parker-dhe-34-quot-barrels-pigeon.cfm?gun_id=100849649

[Dean Romig]

The butt stock appears to be a replacement and, having read the seller's description, I may not be the only one who has this opinion.

If not replaced, at least 'reworked' considerably. The drop points look very 'original' though.




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[Bill Murphy]

I have no idea whether the gun or guns have been restocked, but no PGCA information can help you. Order book information ends in the 185,000 range. From that time forward, you must rely on your expertise. Buy The Parker Story and a full set of the Double Gun Journal and much more information will come to you.

[todd allen]

Sorry, this would have helped. http://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-for-sale-online/shotguns/parker-shotguns/parker-dhe-34-quot-barrels-pigeon.cfm?gun_id=100849649

Checkering aside, I would guarantee that the above gun would spend some time in the pigeon ring.

[edgarspencer]

Checkering aside, I would guarantee that the above gun would spend some time in the pigeon ring.

Todd, and Ian, I have to agree, the stock is very reminiscent of those seen on competition guns. Overall, I would have to question the stocks origin, as some features look 'Parker', others do not. The drop points are not as graceful as most Meriden stocks, and the cheeks, in general, are sort of oddly shaped. That's the best way I can describe it. While I don't like the look of the comb, I have never been a diehard target shooter, and must admit that what works, often isn't what looks good.

[Bill Murphy]

How about that .410!!

[Chuck Bishop]

I tend to think it's not original however I can tell you that the DAC and DAH in the stock book was 1 3/4" x 1 3/4". A high shooter for sure so maybe that accounts for the odd shape of the rise from grip to comb. The checkering isn't correct but it could have just been redone incorrectly.

[Bill Murphy]

I'm going to call in Mark Conrad to recall a .410 skeet that we examined in Pittsburgh a couple of decades ago. It was shopped around by several dealers before it disappeared. It was a 00 frame gun of some serious weight. It was reputed to have been shot by Texan K.C. Miller, the first person to run 100 straight with a .410 in first generation NSSA competition. That gun was very similar to the one just sold, except that the Miller gun was a pistol grip with a solid red pad, probably a No Shoc. Like the gun just sold, that gun had a large beavertail forend with Winchester style checkering. Like the gun just sold, the Miller gun's forend extended well up onto the barrels, past the center line. Unfortunately, we will probably never know the connection between the two unusual guns. I question the advertised weight of the .410 just sold, 5 3/4 pounds. The 00 frame, and the immense beavertail makes me suspect the gun probably weighs a pound more than advertised.

[Mark Conrad]

Bill, the gun was heavy, close to 8 pounds and I agree with your discription. I have always regretted not buying that gun. The gun looked like it had tubes inside the bores when you looked down the muzzle end. That was the only thing I saw about the gun that didn't look correct. It was very unusual but with the extra weight it would have made a great skeet or clays gun. That was close to 20 years ago.

[Bill Murphy]

Mark, you are right about the sleeved barrels, but the gun lettered as a .410. I think it also may have been a 28" gun. We had several chances to buy the gun after we first saw it. I have the serial number and some pictures in my files. I haven't seen or heard of the big gun in at least ten years. My recollection is that the forend is almost identical to the one on the gun just sold. Probably both factory.