4 to 6 frame 12 ga

[charlie cleveland]

i am interested in knowing how many 4 to 6 frames 12 ga s there is out there...i have read here on this forum about one 6 frame 12 ga...would be interested in total weight of the barrels and total weight of the guns...charlie

[Michael Moffa]

Jack Puglisi let me shoulder the 6 frame 12 at the Vegas show. It must be ten years ago now. Big gun but once you got it swinging it kept going. I think a 3 1/2 magnum would feel like a 22 long rifle. He sold it not long after. I wonder who has it now.

[charlie cleveland]

well we know there is at least one big frame 12 ga...i m with you there would not be much reciol even with heavy loads...this would have been a interesting gun to have got a letter on....charlie

[Dave Noreen]

I saved some pictures of it from Jack's web site --

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[Michael Moffa]

I wonder if it was chambered for 3 inch shells? 3 1/2? The unstruck barrels weigh more than most of my finished guns.

[Dean Romig]

Looks like that 6 frame 12 was made specifically to test proof loads :shock:






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[Richard Flanders]

Looks to me to be designed to run on leftover dynamite should you run out of ammo.....

[Bill Zachow]

Does anyone know how long the barrels are? With the chamber wall thickness as heavy as it looks, I am somewhat suprised that they are only marked 7/13. My 6 frame 8 gauge with 36" barrels are marked 9/1.

[charlie cleveland]

if this gun was not chambered for 3 or 3 1/2 inch shell it should have been...thanks for the pictures of this gun...i would say i would have thought the barrels to have weighed moreanyway its a knock out for sure i hope someone is useing this on waterfowl some wereany more big frame 12 ga out there....charlie

[Bill Murphy]

Charlie, I think I own your dream gun. I have a #6 frame hammerless that was originally an 8 gauge and was rebarreled at Parker Brothers with ten gauge Vulcan Steel barrels chambered 3 1/2", probably before Parker advertised 3 1/2" guns. It may be the first modern, fluid steel 10 gauge chambered for the 3 1/2" magnum shells. Unfortunately, it is a 13 pounder or better and not pleasant to carry.

[Rick Losey]

but Bill

those guns were only meant to carried from the club house to the boat

then it was just lifting them to shoot

[Phillip Carr]

Bill what was the date in which the gun was rebarreled?

[charlie cleveland]

yes bill you have my dream gun....dont you wish you had the 8 ga barrels also what a gun...who ever ordered this gun sure knew what they wanted....parker brothers really made some interesting guns for us....charlie

[Bill Murphy]

Phil, no record of the rebarreling. It was probably done after the end of the order books or is in a missing book. The gun was originally ordered by a Nebraska farm family who were big property owners, and obviously waterfowlers. I have a bunch of provenance on the family. I even have one early ATA record on him.

[MARK KIRCHER]

Does anyone know how long the barrels are? With the chamber wall thickness as heavy as it looks, I am somewhat suprised that they are only marked 7/13. My 6 frame 8 gauge with 36" barrels are marked 9/1.

My 6 FRAME Hammerless 32" 10 BORE barrels weigh 8/1. I am not sure if fluid steel would weigh more than the damascus I have. But if the 12 bore barrels were also 32" I would expect them to be heavier.... So perhaps they are only 30"s ???

[Phillip Carr]

Thanks Bill. Makes you wonder if it was a way to keep using the shotgun after the 8 gauge was banned. After all with those long chambers it put it right back up there with the 8.

[Phillip Carr]

My 5 frame 10 gauge top lever hammer gun Also came out of Nebraska. Shipped in 1890 and letters to 3" chambers.

[Bill Murphy]

Chamber inserts would have been so much easier, and cheaper than new barrels.

[Phillip Carr]

Good point Bill, I wonder when chamber inserts were developed? Inserts keep you shooting but the inserts I used are not the fasting things to use. I am going to sell the ones I have because I just so rarely use them.

[charlie cleveland]

phill are the inserts for a 8 gauge if they are i would be interested in them...charlie

[Phillip Carr]

Charlie I only have one not a set but I will sort through some stuff this weekend and PM you.