Daisy model 21 double barrel BB gun

[Rick Losey]

Ok. A fine double for a ten year old :rotf:

Or an adult acting like a kid

Found a like new one of these for sale this weekend - thinking about going back for it

I wondered if anyone has one I assume they are the typical Daisy spring fired guts. Is there enough power to hit a target (paper plates or the like) tossed in the air 10 - 20 feet away ? The typical BB gun mostly teaches rifle skills although my childhood shooting buddy and I tried to develop our wing shooting skill with our single barrel ones

[Eric Eis]

I would buy it just for the Hell of it.......... Sounds neat, never seen one

[Rick Losey]

I would buy it just for the Hell of it.......... Sounds neat, never seen one

I have heard of them for years

But this is the first I have actually seen. They call it a model 21 and then put side plates on it

Should have called it a Daisy Elsie :rotf:

[Robin Lewis]

Interesting, I never knew about these.... so I found this to see what it is:
http://forum.daisymuseum.com/daisy-model-21-double-barrel-bb-gun-for-sale_topic5300.html

[Phil Yearout]

Cool! I want one!

[Rick Losey]

Interesting, I never knew about these.... so I found this to see what it is:
http://forum.daisymuseum.com/daisy-model-21-double-barrel-bb-gun-for-sale_topic5300.html

That's it

[Eric Eis]

That's it

Rick, you buy it...............?

[Rick Losey]

Rick, you buy it...............?

Not yet But I will likely go back when they open up again next weekend. We were the last ones out of the shop - so I know it's still there it's not far to just run over there

I can probably find it a home for it if I decide not to keep it:rotf:

I was hoping some one knew if they had any power to them. I have had Daisy guns that carried a distance and those you could see the BB arch out of the barrel to the ground a few feet away

[Dave Suponski]

Kinda reminds me of the Fox toy gun. Pretty cool.

[Angel Cruz]

Rick, last year there was one listed on craiglist here in Fl. and the guy was asking 850.00. It was in real good condition.

[edgarspencer]

If it's the early one that was made in Plymouth Michigan,with the wooden stock, $500-750. New conditioned ones bring over $800
If it's the later one with the plastic stock, Made in Rogers Arkansas, $250-400 (tops).
They use the same shot tube as the Model 25 pump, and those have plenty of power.

Be Careful, cuz, you'll shoot your eye out!

[Rick Losey]

thanks -- it is the plastic model - i wish it was wood

[Rick Losey]

If it's the early one that was made in Plymouth Michigan,with the wooden stock, $500-750. New conditioned ones bring over $800
If it's the later one with the plastic stock, Made in Rogers Arkansas, $250-400 (tops).

Be Careful, cuz, you'll shoot your eye out!

BTW- looked around the internet - if you can find me a mint model 21 one at those prices - I'll take two :draw:

[Randy Davis]

Have not seen ona in years. Was at a show in KC. The seller was wanting $600

RD

[charlie cleveland]

i seen one at a gun show a few years back i think the price was 250 this was the first and last i have seen....charlie

[wayne goerres]

You mean both his eyes . If it doubles.

[edgarspencer]

Good point Wayne

[Phillip Carr]

Just thought I would add a picture of my SBT Daisy. It's a 1936 model 25 same inside barrel tube as the DBL. variation 7. Engraved pigeon gun no less. LOL

http://parkerguns.org/forums/images/beige_noir/attach/jpg.gif

[Phillip Carr]

Tap picture for better detail.

http://parkerguns.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=53446&stc=1&d=1489592530

[Phillip Carr]

http://parkerguns.org/forums/images/beige_noir/attach/jpg.gif

[edgarspencer]

Mine is also the rare 'Pigeon' model, not the more common "Flying Turnip" model

[Robin Lewis]

Wow, I never knew Daisy had so much to offer. When I was a kid I only ever saw one type .... who knew. I did a search and I see lots of Daisy BB guns for sale on ebay????? I didn't think ebay allowed gun sales?

I also found this sit and learned a lot:
http://www.thetexasantiquetoycollector.com/links.html

[Rick Losey]

BB guns are not yet firearms

air rifles are getting that tag more and more, admittedly - some are getting pretty powerful

if kids (big or little) can't start out with them - its one more lost recruitment possibility and one more nail in the coffin of our sports

[Robin Lewis]

Sorry for the miss information, for some reason I thought Ebay wouldn't even let toy guns on the site? That's why finding BB Guns there surprised me.

[Phil Yearout]

I've just got the ol' Red Ryder - and it's a fairly recent issue no less. Here's Granddaughter Gracie with it; she's pretty good when she sights with the correct eye!

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w109/prairieschooner/Hunting/231a561b-76e2-4add-9c85-ad3e85c201fc_zps505f1f89.jpg

[Bill Jolliff]

Not a Daisy side by side but a Fox. A. H. that is made in Philly.

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i117/jollybill2006/IMG_0885.jpg

[Rick Losey]

Part of your match pair Bill. :corn

[Bill Jolliff]

Part of your match pair Bill. :corn

Yep!

[chris dawe]

Ive handled this fine gun at Phil's poolside ...its every bit as nice as the pics describe

[Daryl Corona]

Mine is also the rare 'Pigeon' model, not the more common "Flying Turnip" model
Edgar,
I thought the "Pigeon" model had a straight grip and 32 LPI checkering. I'm afraid someone duped you. What you have is a "Yeoman's" grade with the corncob forend and plain walnut stock sans checkering.

[edgarspencer]

Both mine, and Phil's are the rare Pre-64 model, long before the Yeoman model came out. These were engraved by famed engraver Stanislaw Kowalski

[edgarspencer]

This is my model 118 Targeteer. Technically it isn't a BB gun. A BB gun shoots .177 diameter pellets. The Model 118 shoots a .118 diameter pellet, hence the model number 118.

This is my favorite concealed carry gun when I go out and suspect I'll run into a rogue gang of grey squirrels.
I do have a permit for this class of 'Destructive Devise'.

[charlie cleveland]

i aint seen one of these in a while i donot remember what happened to mine...charlie

[Rick Losey]

This is my model 118 Targeteer. Technically it isn't a BB gun. A BB gun shoots .177 diameter pellets. The Model 118 shoots a .118 diameter pellet, hence the model number 118.

This is my favorite concealed carry gun when I go out and suspect I'll run into a rogue gang of grey squirrels.
I do have a permit for this class of 'Destructive Devise'.

I have one of those - my grandfather gave it to me when I was little - not sure if it had been his or my Dad's - he also gave me a Red Ryder he took away from some kid for shooting out one of the few street lights we even had in town (Grandpa was the part time cop in town)

[edgarspencer]

Several of my friends had the model 155 when we were little. That was Daisy's 'Trojan'. My model 25 belonged to a guy down the road, who is 6-7 years older than I am. His father was going to throw it out, many years after his son had grown and moved out. He gave it to me, and it was missing the shot tube, which we happened across, in their old wood shed many years later, Nice to reunite the parts.
My recollection was the 155, and the Red Ryder, had very little oomph, so the streetlamps in your town must have been the old, clear glass light bulbs.
The only light a 118 can shoot out is a candle, no more than 6" away; barely a puff.
My dad wouldn't let me have a BB gun, but gave me my first .22 when I was BB gun age. I was only allowed to use it with his supervision, but he believed kids thought of BB guns as a toy, and were too careless with them. This may have been true, and was probably a reflection of parents also thinking that, and not properly training their kids to respect the gun.

[Rick Losey]

I still have my Dad's old Daisy- i will have to get it out and see what model

it had plenty of power - but had been converted to a muzzleloader :rotf:

Dad and his brother wore out the thread on the gut - Grandpa's solution was to braze it in place - :corn:

my bb gun as a kid was a crossman - that one had a of of power -one of our games as kids was to see how far we could keep a can moving - mine had the distance to reach out

[Phil Yearout]

Guess I forgot to list my scoped 880 and my Powerline 1200...

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w109/prairieschooner/Hunting/880_zps6pqqhjmo.png

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w109/prairieschooner/Hunting/powerline_zpsgqw4wrs4.jpg

Gotta admit those 118's are pretty cool; may have to keep my eye out for one of those.

[Dean Romig]

My dad wouldn't let me have a BB gun, but gave me my first .22 when I was BB gun age. I was only allowed to use it with his supervision, but he believed kids thought of BB guns as a toy, and were too careless with them. This may have been true, and was probably a reflection of parents also thinking that, and not properly training their kids to respect the gun.


Same with my parents. I was never allowed to have a BB gun and for the same reasons, but like you, I had a .22 Remington under the Christmas tree when I was 10.





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[Daryl Corona]

Both mine, and Phil's are the rare Pre-64 model, long before the Yeoman model came out. These were engraved by famed engraver Stanislaw Kowalski

My bad. You never mentioned S. Kowalski as that upgrades it significantly.

I do have a permit for this class of 'Destructive Devise'.

Here in Md. you probably would.:banghead:

[Rick Losey]

Same with my parents. I was never allowed to have a BB gun and for the same reasons, but like you, I had a .22 Remington under the Christmas tree when I was 10.
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I got to shoot real guns - and had a BB gun- we were trusted to roam around town with them - we had shooting contests and hunted pests, never had an injury or accidental shooting- BUT in our house, even toy guns had to be treated right, always had cap guns, no pointing them at each other - Dad made us wooden rifles that shot inner tube strips - but never at each other

I did the same thing with my kids - my son started shooting a .22 at 5, and had his own BB gun. He once kicked his best friend out of the house- i asked him why. he said his friend found his BB gun in his closet - picked it up without asking and was swinging it around. I asked him if it was loaded - he said of course not. he later gave his friend a safety lesson

[Phillip Carr]

My brother and I received Red Riders for Christmas from our Grandparents. I was 7 and George was 9. Best memorable gift I ever received. We walked home every day from school and from about Thanksgiving to The day before Christmas we stopped by to feel and shake two identical wrapped presents.
We were convinced we could hear BB's rattling when we would shake the presents. We would go from elation to depression wondering if BB guns were really in the boxes. We counted the days until Christmas arrived, worried that we might have to go another 365 days without a BB gun to roam the desert with.
Two boys were never happier then the moment that the wrapping paper came off, and the Daisy box was reviled. Every spare moment from that day on was split between hunting mainly English sparrows and trying to hunt for returnable soda bottles to fund our new passion.
The name brand bottles brought 5 cents. We always tried to get enough to buy what we called "The 30 cent pack." Daisy's yellow tube with a black cap. Held 350 bb's. We would dole out the bb's using the black cap as a way to equally split the ammo. On bad days we might only find a couple of bottles, in which case the little store we went to had a "10 cents pack" only about 100 bb's. I cannt recall if the name brand was Winchester or Federal but it came in a small red card board tube and the end was crimped like a shotgun shell.
Our independence and the love of the hunting and can be traced directly back to those Daisy's.

[James J. Roberts]

Growing up in New Jersey in the 1940's you could't own a BB gun so I had a class mate buy a Red Rider for me when he vised family in Pennsylvania,mom did't like guns.In 1951 I was able to get my first cartridge rifle a Sears J.C.Higgins single shot 22 cal. for Christmas. J.J.

[Robin Lewis]

Growing up in New Jersey in the 1940's you could't own a BB gun

Wow, I never thought that anti gun movement was strong in the WWII era?

I grew up in western Pennsylvania post WWII and lots the kids had BB guns, 22's and some had shotguns. I would get a very red ass if I even pointed a cap gun at anyone and was taught gun safety from the time I can barely remember now. I killed my first rabbit while hunting with my father when I was 9 (one shotgun that he would carry if we saw anyone around). I could take my 22 out to hunt alone when I was 14, can you imagine that?

For me, anti gun kicked in during the late 1960's, but even then I could walk in and but ammo and guns in stores like Sears or Western Auto. They even sold surplus military rifles, for just a few dollars, through magazine ads and mailed to the house. When they tried to get rid of "Saturday night special's" was when I noticed things changing.

[Rick Losey]

Robin

it was still that way in NY's southern tier/western NY then as well- I could go to Western Auto and get my own BB's or .22s - My Mom used to tell my kids about how my friends and i would be gone for a couple days

I have the two .22's my Dad and his brother each bought when they were kids, they made a half faced camp back in the hills and would stay there and eat what they shot

all before the cities in the state decided they had to tell us rural folks how to live for our own good

[charlie cleveland]

after president john kenndy was killed is when all the mail order guns were done away with..i too as a boy could buy a gun and ammo you could even by dynamite as a kid...when i was 10 i traded a older gent my daddys pocket watch that had chimes in it for a top break 38 smith and wesson ...2 nd time i shot this gun one half of of the breach area broke off the old gent had brazed and put shoe polish on it to hide the brazing...i shot it sum with a rubber band to hold it together..i finally sold the trigger spring out of it for 50 cents and the gun was lost in history...charlie

[Robin Lewis]

Great story Charlie!

[Rick Losey]

The Kennedy assignations (JFK '63 and Bobby in '68) caused the gun control act of 1968

Before that you could buy most anything out of the back of a magazine

I remember one dealer that sold Thompsons that were "deactivated" by the barrel being permanently plugged then just below that he ran an ad for Thompson barrels NOS

I always wondered how good those bicycle handle bar mounted BB machine guns advertised in Boys Life worked

and Charlie. Speaking of dynamite - every year in school we had a presentation - not for "stranger danger" but to show us the newest style basting cap and to tell us if we found one on the ground -not to touch it and to tell an adult :)


Not sure my wife believed me until this past weekend -antiquing in the southern tier I saw one of those safety displays in an antique shop we were in. Should have bought it

[Bobby Cash]

Here you go!

http://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-for-sale-online/shotguns/winchester-shotguns-model-21/daisy-model-21-bb-gun.cfm?gun_id=100828864

[edgarspencer]

xxx

[Bobby Cash]

Guy must be on drugs, or hoping an ill informed buyer comes along. That price will get you a wooden stocked gun with change leftover.

Art Isaacson is a very fine gunsmith, one of the best when it comes to Brownings, and a gentlemen's gentleman.
You would do well not to besmirch his good name.
You obviously know nothing of the man or his excellent work.:knowbetter:

[edgarspencer]

Bobby, You are correct, I have never heard of your friend, but I sincerely apologize to him, and to you for making a comment which you felt was demeaning of his skill, and character. To say one is "On Drugs" is a common expression, however vulgar, to mean someone has said or done something so far from the norm, and is not intended to mean it's literal translation. I'm sure his gunsmithing abilities are as good as you say, and are not reflected by his lack of knowledge of the antique toy market.
Once again, I apologize for my my poor choice of wording, and I will delete my comment.