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Fred Lowe
07-07-2010, 05:59 PM
http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/content/community/gun_inventory/inventory/scarborough/american_sg/1820942_parkervh28_sca.jsp?hierarchyId=11657

This gun appears to have lots going for it, but it sure seems to be agressively priced? Thoughts

Thanks

Fred

Bob Jurewicz
07-07-2010, 07:18 PM
I have a hard time believing the "all original" claim when I view the CC and checkering. But, it is a nice gun that I wouldn't mind owning it.
Bob Jurewicz

Dave Fuller
07-07-2010, 07:58 PM
It does not look original to me. Screws are not timed. Colors look flakey, like some repro tend to exhibit. That said, its a nice little gun.

Dave Suponski
07-07-2010, 08:05 PM
Looks to me to be old Turnbull colors...Only about $15,000 to much....:rolleyes:

Rich Anderson
07-07-2010, 08:21 PM
A VH for $22K:shock: I don't know what those boys are smoking up in Maine but they should be selling that.

Cabelas markup is targeted at 30%. IF they paid $15K for that gun I have one I'll sell them:whistle:

Dean Romig
07-07-2010, 10:27 PM
SHAZAAM!!!! I think it's time to sell my VHE 00-frame 28 ga. :biglaugh:

I'll stop by Cabela's on Friday night on my way to the lake and take a look at it.

Somebody remind me Monday morning to report back with my findings. (I know I'll forget - I left a jug of Jack Daniel's about half-full when I departed Sunday night and I plan to finish it Saturday night if it kills me.) There are a couple of 30" twenty ga. Parkers in their racks that, judging by the tag prices, they're pretty proud of.

charlie cleveland
07-08-2010, 07:34 AM
ive always wanted me a parker 28 ga but alas i think ive waitedto long. when things getto pricey a person has just got to dream sometimes. charlie

Dave Miles
07-08-2010, 08:00 AM
Charlie, buy yourself a 28 gauge Parker Repro and be Happy.
They shoot just as good as the originals.

Rich Anderson
07-08-2010, 08:58 AM
Charlie, Dave is right about the Repos. They are good guns and at a much more attractive price. If you want a little nicer repo look at www.greensguns. Chuck takes them a step farther as he recuts the engraveing by hand, reshapes the stock, and puts a much nicer case color to them.

Francis Morin
07-08-2010, 09:38 AM
So perhaps the gun library schleppers at the Maine Cabela's are 'doin' some doobie" whilst a pricin' non-original Paaaarkaaas- Sort of a "Colorado Rocky Mt. High (priced) moves Eastward--

I've been twice to the Mi Dundee Cabela's Gun Library, and I was "under-whelmed" to say the least- none of their used and way overpriced shotguns have a gunsmith safety check- I found a 12 3E Smith- the safety slide was dis-engaged, so NO safety- when I mentioned this to the sales dude, I might as well have been speaking Urdu--

$22K in my pocket free and clear- spend as I wish, but on guns and ammo to shoot (clays or game birds with) not to hoard in a Gun Safe for "investment"- I'd rather buy a clean Remington VHE 12 Parker and a ton of RST No. 8's, have enough left for a three day bird hunt at one of the fancy ND or SD Lodges too- 28 gauge- like a .410 on steriods maybe???:whistle::whistle::whistle:

Harry Collins
07-08-2010, 10:33 AM
Dean,

Save a little of that Tennessee Whiskey for Sunday morning. Everyone will confuse you for an Episcopalian.....and if you find Cabela's is dishing out 15K for old VH 28 gauges they can have mine.

Harry

Scott Groff
07-08-2010, 12:36 PM
Appears they opened the new Blue Book and priced it right out of there.

Rich Anderson
07-08-2010, 10:27 PM
There is a very nice VHE 28 at Greens guns in the $15K range.

Francis there is nothing wrong with the 28 for birds or clays. I picked up a nice VHE 28 at the U.P. about 5yrs ago. I shoot lots of birds and some clays with it.

Arn't you without a Parker at this time??

Dean Romig
07-08-2010, 10:32 PM
A 28 ga. is my ideal gun for skeet, a bit of SC and of course pa'tridge an' woodcock.

Francis Morin
07-08-2010, 10:38 PM
But the 28 gauges- both the shells and the doubles that burn them up so well on the clays- humm- I can shoot a whole ton more by using my 12's- I'm so used to their weight and feel (I love that 8 lb. 2E Smith with the 32" VR barrels) that the little 16- O frame 26" PH I traded away at the UP Shoot felt like a 28- to me. Also, as I prefer splinter forearms on my doubles (unless I get real serious about the two-man flurry derby, then a modified beavertail might get the nod) the width of a 12 double- my fingers don't interfere with my sight over the barrels- but with the smaller barrels of a 28- But I'll tell you what- if I get really lucky and win the 12 GHE DAM raffle gun this Sept, I'll put it out for trade against a nice Parker Repro DHE- 28 gauge 26" barrels IC/Mod- straight hand stock, DT, field style beavertail forearm (like the early M21 "Kidney pattern") and with nice solid red Silvers pad with a 14.5" LOP and no cast- in case- then after I've had it and shot it on clays for a few seasons, I'll let you know what I think- just please remember- I am a devout waterfowl and pheasant hunter- and in my lexicon, them birds spells 12 gauge (to me anyway)!:bigbye::bigbye::bigbye:

Rich Anderson
07-09-2010, 03:03 PM
I can reload my 28's for less than a 12. Seeing as I won a case of RST 28's at Hausmanns, ammo won't be a problem for quite a while:). I would rather run a 22 or 23 at skeet with a 28 than 24-25 with a 12.

My VHE is straight stock, splinter forarm and double trigger. I have no problem seeing down those 28 inch skeet choked tubes.

Dave Suponski
07-09-2010, 03:28 PM
Please send said gun to Connecticut......:bowdown:

Rich Anderson
07-09-2010, 03:38 PM
NO!:nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono ::nono::nono::nono::rotf:

Dave Suponski
07-09-2010, 03:45 PM
Suppose I say Pleeeeeese? And I'll throw in a ceeegar......:whistle:

Rich Anderson
07-09-2010, 03:49 PM
NO!:nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono ::nono::nono::nono:

Suppose you throw in a Cuban cigar and 20K....NO!:nono::nono::nono::nono:

Dave Suponski
07-09-2010, 04:49 PM
This isn't over yet Mr. Anderson.....How about willing it to me?....:whistle:

Rich Anderson
07-09-2010, 05:54 PM
So lets see if I have this correct. I don't want to sell the gun so your willing to to wait untill I become Vulture food to get it?:rolleyes:

When I'm dead you want the 28 and another "friend" wants the GHE 16 damascuss. Well what the Hell are friends for anyway:rotf:

Dave Suponski
07-09-2010, 09:01 PM
Exactly.....See what good buddies ya got......:biglaugh:

Rich Anderson
07-09-2010, 11:07 PM
I hate to tell you this but your not Charlton Heston so you can't pry it from my cold dead hands........good try though:rotf:

Francis Morin
07-10-2010, 08:42 AM
I had some nice communication with Morris Baker just before the Yooper- we had never met, but he was planning to attend and bestow a few fine Havanas to his many friends. Alex and Jill were there, and explained that some family concerns kept him back in PA this time--I was hoping to see the 20 VH that was once the pet grouse gun of the late Burton L. Spiller- I am sure that it is in good hands with our friend Morris, and that he will use it and treasure it as well.

Did get a chance to meet Morris' friend and grouse guide from MN- he had a fine collection of German doubles, rifles and drillings as well, and told me some stories about his job with the MN DNR in killing rogue black bears and feral wolves--he just had the look of a man who had spent most of his life in some really tough country and had come out on top- sorta like the lines from the late poet Robert W. Service: "Oh, I have clinched and closed with the naked North, I've learned to defy and defend- shoulder to shoulder we have fought it out, but the North must win in the end"!!:cool:

Dean Romig
07-10-2010, 03:33 PM
For Fred Lowe and other interested parties re: the Cabela's VH 28 ga. that was the gun of interest in starting this thread...

I dropped into Cabela's in Scarborough, ME on Friday evening specifically to examine this gun and as I walked into the Gun Library I spied Scott, Bill and Pete making a deal on a trap gun. We chatted a bit and then I took out the VH 28 and found it to be nothing more than a restocked and refinished gun, probably redone a while back. It is made on a 00-frame, has 26" barrels and extractors and in my opinion a buttplate introduced a bit later than this gun was made, i.e., no spur. It is a decent gun but the price Cabela's is asking is ionospheric in my opinion.

Dave Suponski
07-10-2010, 06:31 PM
Dean,Would you care to describe....ionospheric? Is that really a word?

Rich Anderson
07-10-2010, 08:37 PM
If someone is in the mkt for a nice 28 (NO Dave S not min:pe) Chuck Brunner at Greens guns has a VHE and I believe there is a nice VH at CSM. Both are very nice and a lot less $$$ than the Cabelas gun.

Dean Romig
07-10-2010, 10:17 PM
Dave, ionospheric is so high it is impossible for humans to find sustainable oxygen.

Dave Suponski
07-11-2010, 08:48 AM
Thank You for the education Mr. Romig......:bowdown:

Francis Morin
07-11-2010, 09:02 AM
As maybe in Merle Haggard's song-- "and they all respect the College dean"-- So- take two identical DHE skeet guns fully optioned, made in Ilion in 1936- both NIB with all the papers and etc-- (as long as we are dreaming, let's dream big) which is worth more on the market today- the 28 gauge or the .410??:whistle::whistle:

Bill Murphy
07-11-2010, 10:55 AM
Francis, the 28, maybe $45,000, the .410, closer to $80,000, as long as we're dreaming. I could be way off, but the .410 is always more expensive, regardless of grade or condition.

Eric Eis
07-11-2010, 11:42 AM
No Bill I think you are on maybe a little low on both.

Francis Morin
07-11-2010, 04:56 PM
Almost like a scaled down versiopn of what the late IL Sen. Everett Dirksen used to say: "A few million here, a few million, and after a while, you're talkin' real serious money"-- $80K for a .410 optioned and NIB- Mama Mia- that's some a spicy meat ball, ey?? Wow:eek::eek:- guess I'll stay in the "cheap seats" and buy/shoot lower graded 12's with DT--:banghead:

Bill Murphy
07-11-2010, 07:04 PM
I thought someone would pipe in and tell me I was way low. I agree that I may be way off the money. However, I want to know more about John Dunkle's field used skeet configured gun. I have one that gives "field used" a new meaning. OK, John, will you be sending your less than mint .410 to the cleaners or are you hunting with it like I am with mine?

Rich Anderson
07-11-2010, 10:44 PM
DAve IF I sell the VHE 28 I'll be ionspheric:rotf:.

Dunkel stole that sweet little 410 for short money...so the story goes. I guess it pays to be in the right place at the right time. Someday I hope I get there:whistle:

John Dunkle
07-12-2010, 08:07 AM
...OK, John, will you be sending your less than mint .410 to the cleaners or are you hunting with it like I am with mine? Hi Bill..!

Actually - I've used it both at the skeet range and in the field.. Honestly - as you know - they are like "little wands" in hand and just feel "right"?? Mine would never be confused with NIB or "minty", but rather - it get's loved and shot all the time? As well, if I bring it along at the skeet range - I do let other Parker enthusiasts shoot it a round or two if they'd like? Frankly - most shoot it better than I do - which isn't saying too much :shock:

Best to you Bill!

John

scott kittredge
07-12-2010, 03:50 PM
Hi Bill..!

Actually - I've used it both at the skeet range and in the field.. Honestly - as you know - they are like "little wands" in hand and just feel "right"?? Mine would never be confused with NIB or "minty", but rather - it get's loved and shot all the time? As well, if I bring it along at the skeet range - I do let other Parker enthusiasts shoot it a round or two if they'd like? Frankly - most shoot it better than I do - which isn't saying too much :shock:

Best to you Bill!

John

john, i would love to try it again :clap: scott

John Dunkle
07-13-2010, 03:53 PM
.... It is made on a 00-frame, has 26" barrels and extractors and in my opinion a buttplate introduced a bit later than this gun was made, i.e., no spur.....
Hey Dean!

A great set of "eyes" - thanks!! As well - while you were there,did you see this GH listed for $4,000? I'd be interested in the collective thoughts of the forum members, as I have a few GHs and..???..??!

http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/content/community/gun_inventory/inventory/scarborough/american_sg/1825449_parkergh12_sca.jsp?hierarchyId=11657

Best to all for a wonderful evening!

John

Dean Romig
07-13-2010, 04:23 PM
Didn't see that one John. Don't know how I could have missed it. I'm going North again Friday night and I'll stop and take a look.

Dean

John Dunkle
07-13-2010, 07:11 PM
Many thanks Dean!!!

If you asked me to go north with you this weekend...?? ;) HEH!!

Anyway - it appears that the barrels are re-done on that GH, so I dun'no?? If I look at the "patina" on the receiver versus NO wear on the BBL - it just seems "off"? I dun'no..??

I'd trust your eyes to tell me what you think??

Best to you!!!

JD

Dean Romig
07-13-2010, 07:32 PM
MmmmIdunno... maybe, maybe not... I'll let you know about the barrels too.

Rich Anderson
07-13-2010, 07:35 PM
John,

My first take was that the barrels have been redone and quite possibly the stock. Look at the receiver screws as they look somewhat proud to me. I doubt they have much over 2K into it.

John Dunkle
07-13-2010, 07:47 PM
Hey Rich!

Your eyes are the same as mine..??? As for Dean's eyes - well, you know...?? ;)

Anyway - my best to you gentlemen!

Rich - you going to Vintingers??

JD

Dean Romig
07-13-2010, 07:55 PM
John says he's going but as much as I like John... he can't room with me and Kathy 'cause we'll be celebrating :clap:

Rich Anderson
07-13-2010, 10:18 PM
Dean what is it you will be celebrating??? New stemware perhaps:whistle:

John I won't make the Vintagers. I can shoot birds made of feathers not clay at that time of year. I have two new guns that will need to be "bloodied" but I'll think of you waiting in line to spend your hard earned (ok I'm just being nice here) dollars for clay targets while I'm behind a staunch GSP with a fine Parker in my hands:)

Dean Romig
07-13-2010, 10:55 PM
Dean what is it you will be celebrating??? New stemware perhaps:whistle:


Wish we were... the old stemware's due for replacement soon I think.