What exactly are q1 and q2 chokes

[Kurt Sauers]

Stupid question. where do they fit in with cyl ,ic ,mod , im, full?

[Scot Cardillo]

"What exactly are q1 and q2 chokes"

Birdswatters they is :)

..kidding aside - they are a PR coined (marketing) name for SK1 / SK2 ~ Quail1 / Quail2

[Kenny Graft]

All my Parker Reproductions measure right barrel .003 or .004 and the left runs from .006 to .007 The old time books say: skeet in skeet out are .004 and .011 I am sure there are other printed info on the subject. Remember....the only way to know a guns pattern quality and chokes is to shoot and count with the shell that you need the answer for in each of your barrels. SXS Ohio

[Dean Romig]

Q1 and Q2 chokes are only seen on the Parker Reproduction by Winchester - no other gun uses that choke identifier because Richard Skuese 'invented' it... not the constriction but the description. According to The Parker Story, Skuese simply wanted a 'nomenclature' that set his guns off from the rest of the "Skeet" guns and he wanted his guns to be more accepted by the hunting public as well as Skeet shooters.

By the way Kurt, there are no stupid questions around here - there is SO much to learn and to know.




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[Rich Anderson]

I have found that just because a gun is marked as skeet choke it doesn't mean much. My 16ga VHE skeet gun is .010 in both barrels and the Hollywood gun also a 16ga skeet is IIRC .004 &.006. Lots of difference and they only way to know for sure is at the pattern board.

[bob kuczynski]

my skeet gun is 021/023. in the day... sometimes shooting skeet with full was common. so as stated, anything goes.

[Bob Jurewicz]

http://parkerguns.org/forums/showthread.php?t=10732
Here is a link to some measurements.
Bob Jurewicz

[Kevin McCormack]

I know an individual who ordered a Holland & Holland 20 gauge specifically dedicated for quail shooting in the early 1970's. When he went to London to be measured and fitted for the gun, they asked him for his preference in chokes. They actually calculated his stride and patterned the gun at 13 steps for the right barrel and 16 steps for the left barrel to deliver consistent patterns at those ranges for flushed birds at that distance. He specified the ammo he would use per drams of powder and oz. of shot. I imagine the actual measurements of choke and resulting pattern performance came out pretty close to the Parker Repro Q1 & Q2, IMHO the best combination of chokes for close-in shooting in dense cover (especially woodcock). In examining a few Savage Fox Skeet & Upland Game guns, nearly each measured +/- .005" constriction in the right barrel and +/- .009 in the left.

[Gary Laudermilch]

I just purchased a 20 ga repro for my grandson that is marked Q1/Q2. They measure .004/.009.

When I purchased my first 20 ga repro many years ago I did not know about the Q chokes so I bought an IC/Mod and had them opened to .004/.008. It has turned out to be the best grouse gun I have ever used and in 50 years I've used a bunch of them.

The caveat here is that I spent considerable time experimenting with loads till I found what I was looking for. There just is no substitute for pattern board time.

[Steve Cambria]

Stupid question. where do they fit in with cyl ,ic ,mod , im, full?

Not stupid at all Kurt! Just remember that you'll be far more accurate if you shoot the Q1 barrel in Jan-March and the Q2 barrel in April -June!! Good hunting!! :cool:

[Greg Baehman]

Parker Reproductions, in all grades and gauges factory choked Q1/Q2 are held in high regard by their owners, for a plethora of reasons. With a little diligence they can be found in 20 and 28-ga. guns with a 26" barrel length with some regularity. However, very seldomly are they found in 16 and 20-ga. guns with a 28" barrel length, I would consider finding one with 28" barrels an esteemed and cherished prize. Very rarely and almost non-existant will you find a 28-ga. 28" Repro factory choked Q1/Q2. In my world, I would consider finding one of these to be a dancing-in-the-street epic event -- I know of only two such guns.

Having said the above, I believe the rarest of them all would be a 12-ga. with 28" barrels factory choked Q1/Q2 -- I've never seen nor even heard of one, have you?

[Gary Laudermilch]

Finding a Q choked 28" gun in any gauge is a rare event. Heck, it is hard enough to find one in 26". That said, I have both 26 and 28 inch repros and I find no difference in the shootability between the two. Of course, if you are in to collecting I can understand the quest for the rare 28" configuration.

[allen newell]

I have a early 1900's GHE that somewhere along the way got separated from its original Damascus barrels and had Parker Reproduction barrels (26 inch) fitted up. They are marked Q1/Q2. It is fast becoming my favorite skeet gun to shoot.

[Dean Romig]

That's a stroke of good luck Allen!!





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[allen newell]

It is Dean. And it has been restocked with gorgeous wood. Only issue I have is that the checkering pattern on the stock is consistent with vh not ghe grade. Other than that it's a great find and shooter

[Kurt Sauers]

It is Dean. And it has been restocked with gorgeous wood. Only issue I have is that the checkering pattern on the stock is consistent with vh not ghe grade. Other than that it's a great find and shooter



And you tried to sell it!

[allen newell]

That was before I decided to keep it and realized how well it was on skeet.

[Richard Skeuse]

Ha Ha Dean, I have been accused of a lot of things (most untrue) but being the inventor of Q1&Q2 is not one of them. I don't know where that came from, I can look around if you fellows want but I may not find an answer. Thanks again Richard Skeuse

[Dean Romig]

Oops.... Sorry Richard, I meant to say your dad, Tom Skeuse. According to The Parker Story the terms Quail 1 and Quail 2 were coined by him.






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