Remington DEO today

[Phillip Carr]

Thought I would share a few pictures at a Remington 1894 SXS I looked at today. I really like the engraving. Metal is pretty good but the wood is replacement and a real mess. The best I can tell there are no records on the guns like we are fortunate to have for Parkers. I did figure out it is a DEO grade.
I only had my Iphone for pictures so they are not great. Is there information as to who did the engraving? Also the barrels are each marked 2 7/8 ???
I know we have a lot of knowledge on this sight and hoping to learn all I can.

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[Phillip Carr]

I can not believe how horrible the picture I posted looks. It looks nothing like this. Engraving is sharp. What am I doing wrong. I will hold off posting any more pictures until I can figure out what I did wrong.

[Phillip Carr]

I guess if you tap the link it becomes clearer.

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[Eric Estes]

You can click it twice to get full size. The pics look great, especially for a mobile. Beautiful engraving.

[wayne goerres]

Can you post a couple of pictures of the complete but stock and forearm. Thanks in advance.

[Ken Descovich]

Phil,
The names of engravers that come up in Charles Semmers book is Owne DeLange and Joseph Loy. What a find.
Ken

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[Dave Noreen]

Wow!! That could be a worthy restoration project. Any pictures of the 2 7/8 markings? According to surviving hang-tags I've seen, Remington Arms Co. 12-gauge doubles were made for 2 5/8 inch shells. In his book, the late Charles Semmer showed a CEO-grade with 2 3/4 markings on the bottom of the tubes just forward of the barrel flats.

I'm sure that with a liberal application of dollars one of our good stock men could make it look a bit more like this --

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[Phillip Carr]

I will get some more pictures tomorrow morning I will get the pictures of the barrel markings as well as the markings on the water table. The 2 7/8 is marked on the barrels where they meet the barrel flats as I recall. Barrels are 30" marked Ordanance Steel.

[Phillip Carr]

What grade would the DEO compare to Parker models?

[Ken Descovich]

Phil,
It was a $155.00 gun with ejectors

[Drew Hause]

1902 The Pacific Hardware & Steel Co., San Francisco, CA
Non-ejectors
...................Parker..................L.C. Smith................Remington
$70...............VH........................No. 0E ($60)............BO ($75)
$80...............GH........................No. 2......................BEO
$100.............DH........................No. 3......................CE ($95)
$150.............CH........................No. 4.......................D
$200.............BH........................No. 5.......................E ($225)

[Phillip Carr]

Thanks for all of the feedback guys. I will be posting some more pictures in a few hours.

Were thes D grades stocked with exhibition grade American walnut?

[Bill Murphy]

I would say "yes" to that question. Are you sure this is a 12 gauge and not a 10?

[Kevin McCormack]

Phil,
The names of engravers that come up in Charles Semmers book is Owne DeLange and Joseph Loy. What a find.
Ken

The Remington Society of America has information on other engravers of that era. I would contact them directly and ask for help. That is a beautiful and rare gun that deserves to be brought back to its former glory. Thanks for sharing.

[Dave Noreen]

I recently scored an 1895 vintage picture of 39 men of the shotgun department at Remington Arms Co. There were three Goughs in the picture -- George Gough, Herb Gough Sr., and Bert Gough Jr. No Joe Loy or Owne DeLange in the picture, but it did include a fairly young Be(u)rt Becker.

I wouldn't let any Juglans nigra anywhere near that gun. Only Juglans regia!! The Remington Arms Co. catalogs of the period state the K-grades were stocked in "selected walnut." Remington Hammerless Doubles from A-Grade to EEO-Grade were stocked in "English Walnut" and the Remington Special in "Circassian Walnut." For A- & B-grades and the FE-Grade Trap Gun the later catalogs state "English Walnut", for C-Grades "Fine English Walnut", for D-Grades "Fine selected English Walnut" and for E-Grades "Best English Walnut."

[Phillip Carr]

Gun is now mine. I plan to have restocked. It is definitely a 12 gauge I took the chamber gauges with me this morning. Also the chambers measure exactly 2 7/8".
Every time I say no more SXS something comes along that I would never had expected and I fall off the wagon.

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[Drew Hause]

The April 1897 Remington Arms Co. catalogue, which introduced the “Ordnance Steel” barrels: “Remington” blued steel barrels are manufactured in our own works, and sold at the same price as ordinary Damascus barrels. Guaranteed for nitro powders and free from all imperfections. (courtesy of Dave Noreen)
The 1902 catalog stated the Remington Ordnance Steel tensile strength was 110,000 lbs per sq. inch with an elastic limit of 60,000 psi.

Should last awhile ;)

[Phillip Carr]

I have attempted to contact Charles Semmer at the number listed on the Remington site but the number is no longer in service. I am hoping to purchase one of his special edition books from him if they are avalible.
By chance does anyone have a number for him other than
303-429-6947.

[Ken Descovich]

Phil,
I believe Charles has passed away, as I see him mentioned in past tense. If he hasn't I am terribly sorry.
Ken

P.s. Congratulations on your purchase!!

[Phillip Carr]

Thank you, I am sorry to learn of this.

If anyone knows where I might purchase one of his hard bound books I would greatly appreciate the lead.

[Bill Murphy]

Dan Cote may be selling them.

[Phillip Carr]

Thank you Bill but it shows they are sold out of the hard back books. I may need to settle for a paper back.

[Marc Retallack]

A few sources-

http://www.ebay.com/p/Remington-Double-Shotguns-by-Charles-G-Semmer-1996-Hardcover/5672121

https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B000JWN948/ref=tmm_hrd_collectible_olp_sr?ie=UTF8&condition=collectible&qid=&sr=

http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/remington-double-shotguns-charles-g-semmer/1014968452

I wish I could remember to whom I loaned my copy...

[Bill Murphy]

Phil, don't buy a paperback. The pictures in the hardback edition are astounding and won't be the same in a copy. The paperback will be worth about $2.00 a week after you get it. Hang on, someone will come up with one.

[Bill Murphy]

Don't worry about a dust jacket. They never had a dust jacket.

[Wayne Owens]

Phil,

I have the book if you want to borrow it.

Wayne

[wayne goerres]

Its amazing that a gun with such beautiful engraving could have such a junk stock on it. I would be tempted to save that one too.

[James J. Roberts]

I believe the engraving of the ducks,woodcocks and scrolls was done by Joseph Loy. J.J.

[Phillip Carr]

When things settle down tonight I will post a few better pictures. Any thoughts on the barrel and flat markings?
Wayne I appreciate the offer, may need to take you up on it if I can not find a hardback, will look at the web sites suggested tonight. Bill you are right, hard back is always the best way to go as picture quality is so much nicer. I really appreciate the help on the A Parker site. Nothing like it any where. Looking forward to meeting many of you in Vegas.
I will be looking at blanks tomorrow to see if a I can find one locally fitting of the gun.
I have a line on some good stock if it's still available.

[Dave Noreen]

The latest edition of The Double Gun Journal has an ad for them on page 108.

According to Charles' serial number chronology 121252 would be of 1901 vintage.

[charlie cleveland]

great looking gun i really like those remington 1894 s....charlie

[Phillip Carr]

Dave possibly I am over thinking this. Is there Paper backs, hard backs, and then the leather bound? If these on DoubleGun are hard backs I will get this ordered right away. Dave what's your thoughts on the chamber markings?

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[Dave Noreen]

Dave possibly I am over thinking this. Is there Paper backs, hard backs, and then the leather bound? If these on DoubleGun are hard backs I will get this ordered right away. Dave what's your thoughts on the chamber markings?

As far as I know the green cloth covered hardback is the only version of Remington Double Shotguns.

Charles showed in his book and The Double Gun Journal articles an FE-Grade Trap Gun, P132953 and a CEO-Grade, 132037, that have 2 3/4 stamped in the same spot as 121252's 2 7/8. In 1901, Union Metallic Cartridge Co. offered loaded 12-gauge paper shells in 2 5/8, 2 3/4, 2 7/8, 3 and 3 1/4 inch lengths. The heaviest loads offered were 3 1/2 drams of bulk smokeless powder or 28-grains of dense smokeless powders such as Infallible (opps not yet on the market in 1901) or Ballistite pushing 1 1/4 ounce of shot. Those loads could be had in the 2 3/4 inch or any of the longer cases. The longer cases offering more and better wadding which many serious Pigeon shooters believed in.

[Phillip Carr]

Thank you Dave for the information on shell avalibility at the time and chamber lengths. Getting a book coming this morning.

[Dave Noreen]

From the introduction of the Remington Hammerless Double Barrel Shotgun in the October 1894 Remington Arms Co. catalog through their second 1901 catalog, they only pictured the A-grades and just listed the higher grades.

First (Green & Gold cover) 1901 Catalog --

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Second (Blue cover) 1901 catalog --

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Beginning with the first 1902 Catalog they pictured all the grades.

First 1902 Catalog --

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[Phillip Carr]

Thanks again Dave, I ordered a hard back book today. Cannt wait to start reading. I now have two blanks to choose from for restocking. Really excited about this gun.

[Phillip Carr]

Wood bought for project.

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[charlie cleveland]

nice wood you got there cannot wait to see it on the gun...charlie

[Dave Noreen]

Looks like a great stick for a DEO-Grade

[David Lien]

Looks like a great stick for a DEO-Grade

Phillip: I do like your wood. My opinion is, that you have this right.
David

[Phillip Carr]

Thanks guys I feel fortunate that I was able to get this stock blank from a friend. it's been sitting on a shelf for 15 years waiting for a special gun.

[todd allen]

A very worthy project, for sure!
It's all lost in the annals of family history now, but the first SxS shotguns that I had memories of, were a couple of Remingtons on the family farm.

[Dave Noreen]

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Remington Arms Co. stamped the actual pellet counts of their test patterns on the rear barrel lug of their Model 1889 hammer doubles and their Model 1894 and 1900 hammerless doubles. If the number is three digits, that is the count, if the number is two digits a leading 3 is implied. From surviving hang-tags we know the standard load they used to target 12-gauge guns was 1 1/4 ounces of #8 going 511 pellets to the load. Looks like 300 for the right barrel and 343 for the left barrel -- 300/511 = 58.7 % right and 343/511 = 67.1 % left.

From surviving Remington Arms Co. hang tags we know the load they were using in 1901 was Load No. 8 in the UMC SMOKELESS shell --

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Later Remington Arms Co. hang tags show 12-gauge guns being targeted with UMC NITRO CLUB shells Load No. X8 with 24 grains of Infallible powder.

All the above being said, I wonder if that 7 next to the 2 7/8 on the left barrel might indicate this gun was targeted with No. 7 shot?

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Could the dot below the 7 mean No. 7 1/2 shot? DEO-Grade 135127, sold a while back by Julia's, has its hang tag with it which had the No. 8 Chilled Shot typed over with 7 1/2 and the barrel lug with the pellet counts has a 7. stamped on it? Lots of things to speculate about on these made to order Remington Hammerless Doubles.

[Peter Clark]

Phil, A DEO 1894 Remington is a very special gun. No two are alike. In fact even the C grades are pretty much individual.
To give you an idea of how scarce they are consider that several years ago I stopped by to visit Charlie Semmer to get his opinion on my Grandfathers CEO. He told me that my gun made 81 C grades he could verify. His estimate was there were probably only 300 or so C grades made. The C grades and above were rather custom guns according to Charlie. You D grade is certainly much rarer than a C. I bought be of his books while at his house and would urge you to find one. He was a very nice man. Your gun deserves to be brought back to its former glory. Peter C

[Phillip Carr]

Thanks Dave for the information. Looking forward to getting this gun home and getting the restoration process started.
Does anyone know of articles written possibly for the DoubleGun Journel on graded 1894 Remington's?

[Frank Srebro]

Phil, what a great 1894 and so worthy of a restock. Nice catch! :bowdown:

..... According to surviving hang-tags I've seen, Remington Arms Co. 12-gauge doubles were made for 2 5/8 inch shells.....

So, production guns were made for 2-5/8" shells. Good solid information. I wonder, did Remington follow that "practice" we're told about, that chambers were held 1/8" short for the cartridge? Said another way, do 12 gauge Remington SxS chambers intended for 2-5/8" shells actually measure about 2-1/2" long? Or are they full length at 2-5/8" long? And if not short-chambered, why didn't the Company follow that practice that's been broadly interpreted from tidbits of period evidence? :whistle:

This gun is stamped 2-7/8 and one of the posts says the chambers measure 2-7/8. A similar question, was it made for the period 2-7/8" shells or period 3-inch shells?

[Dave Noreen]

FWIW four of the five 12-gauge Remington Hammerless Double Barrel Shotguns in my collection have chambers that measure 2 5/8 inch. My FE-Grade Trap Gun has chambers that measure 2 3/4 inch but I suspect they may have been lengthened. It belonged to an old Pennsylvania Pigeon shooter and has a beavertail forearm and the choke of the left barrel was, I suspect, opened to .018".

My rather hap hazard table of observed high grade Remingtons has 18 D quality hammerless doubles on it. The nearest to this gun in question was 121359 with a straight grip stock which was for sale by the Cabelas in Lacey, Washington, a few years back. My note says "butt extension."

Phil,

Charles Semmer's article in The Double Gun Journal, Volume Twelve, Issue 3, page 143, about restocking a straight gripped DE-Grade with a horribly broken stock might be of interest to you.

Dave

[Frank Srebro]

Thank you Dave. Now we know that 4 unmolested Remington 12 gauge hammerless guns that were made for 2-5/8" shells, have chambers that measure 2-5/8" long. So why are Parker and Fox the only American gun makers I remember hearing about, that seemingly followed that "practice" of cutting 12 gauge chambers @ 2-5/8" long for 2-3/4" shells? :banghead:

Food for thought gents. :)

[Dave Noreen]

I "wasted" the better part of Monday going through all my notes, slips of paper, pictures on three different computers, etc. and produced a new consolidated table of the engraved Remington hammerless doubles I've observed. I have 21 E quality and 18 D quality, plus in The Double Gun Journal, Volume Eleven, Issue 4, page 141, Charles mentioned three sets of Krupp barrels or Krupp barrel guns of D quality 140667, 140670 and 140672. Other then those, I don't have anything recorded in the 140xxx and 141xxx range?

I believe Charles was up around 31 each recorded in D and E qualities.

[Phillip Carr]

Dave,
Thank you for all of the Historical data you archive on vintage guns and ammunition. You are a wealth of knowledge.
I had no idea how fortunate I was to acquire my new Remington DEO until you as well as others unselfishly shared your knowledge.
I am really excited about getting this gun back to its former glory, and hopefully will be able to get more history on this gun.
I know so far that the owner ( seller) in his 80's received this gun on his 14th birthday. It was given to him by his grandfather whom was a doctor and purchased it used from another Doctor in their home town for the occasion.

[Will Gurton]

Phil,

Glad to see this fine old gun in committed hands to bring her back.

I spoke with Mr. Semmer on many occasions and the last correspondence that I had from him shortly before his passing was that he had catalogued 44 E Grades and 41 D Grades.

I am sure that you have someone in mind to undertake your stock work, however, you might do a search on the 1894 Remington Pigeon Gun that the American Custom Gunmaker's Guild commissioned a few years ago. The stock although a straight grip has the Arrow Points and cheek checkering of the classic D Grade. The Stockwork was crafted by a friend Doug Mann of St, Anne, IL.

Good Luck and keep us posted.

Will

[Bill Anderson]

Thanks Dave for the information. Looking forward to getting this gun home and getting the restoration process started.
Does anyone know of articles written possibly for the DoubleGun Journel on graded 1894 Remington's?

Phil,

I only know of one article and that is on the Remington 16 gauge EEO that I own which is the only Ordnance barreled E grade 16 gauge that I have ever seen, I believe it is one of a kind. Engraved by the best, in my opinion, Joseph Loy.

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[Dave Noreen]

I've got two EEO-Grade 16-gauges on my list -- your 112429 from The Double Gun Journal, Volume Thirteen, Issue 3, page 59 - 63; and 110475 which was in the Bonham's June 2003 auction and pictured of pages 190 & 191 of Charles' book. They both have the "spearhead" drop points.

[Phillip Carr]

I wonder how many of the D Grades had ejectors, I am thinking most. Also how may had the Ordnance steel barrels?

[Dave Noreen]

I have not recorded a D or E quality gun without ejectors, and only two C qualities. I've found the D & E quality Remingtons pretty evenly divided between Ordnance and Damascus barrels.

[Phillip Carr]

Just a little update on this project. Last year Chris Dawe came down to Tucson for some quail hunting and while here started the stocking of my Remington. The wood then went back with him. This month I went for a visit to Newfoundland and Chris completed the project thanks to calling in some special favors so I could shoot it while there.
I have a few pictures and was able to hunt with it and shoot a Ptarmigan as well as a snipe with it before Chris put the finishing touches to it. I will post more pictures when it returns which I hope will be in the next month or so. I will also post my experience with the export process, the company I used and cost.
Chris is a true artist which is reflected in his dedication to details and professionalism.
Since each of these guns were customized to the customers request and since the gun had replacement wood when I purchaed it.
Chris worked with me to not only stock the gun to my dimensions with a fair amount of cast on but to lay out a checkering pattern using some references from Charles Semmers book.

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More and better pictures to follow when it returns.

[Dave Noreen]

Great!! Wonderful to see such a great old shotgun saved.

[charlie cleveland]

that is a fine looing 94....charlie

[Mike Franzen]

What a perfect piece of wood for that gun. And to have Chris Dawe stock it, don’t get no better.

[Phillip Carr]

Well its been a little over a year since I purchased this gun and finally have it back in my hands.
Thanks to Chris Dawe’s world class wood work and his coordination with the Engraver and Case color teams in Canada the gun has been brought back to its former Glory.

I have attached a few pictures of the gun. Pictures taken on my Ipad so not the best but I hope will give a fair representTion of the work completed.
It will be going out with me Sunday for the last Dave of Dove season and then out again Monday for some Mearns quail.
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[Phillip Carr]

Note the forend wood looks dark in the picture. It is not. Same color as the butt.

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[Bill Murphy]

Phil, what a project. Please do tell us about your experience in exporting and importing your gun to Chris.

[Larry Stauch]

I’m in awe of Chris Dawe!

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[Phillip Carr]

Bill I plan to put together all of the details shortly with pricing etc. I transported the gun up. Irunguns imported it back for me when it was complete. Only down side is the marking which I hope to have solved shortly

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[Bill Murphy]

My last import was marked in very small letters on the bottom rib. It's part of the history of a Nash Buckingham gun, so the lettering stays.

[Phillip Carr]

Bill who did your import?

[Phillip Carr]

Took it out today. Shot great using some 2 1/2” RST SPREADER LOADS.

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Where this young rooster fell.

[chris dawe]

Puts a huge smile on my face seeing that gun working out for you and being put to work ...it was a long road

[Brian Dudley]

Killer

[Larry Stauch]

Idol!
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[Paul Harm]

I'm a big fan of Remingtons and have a 82, 89, and six 94's. One is a C grade that I'm quite proud of. I had Bachelder redo it and love the Etoile pattern on the barrels. Your D grade is looking really good. Only wish I had the extra money to find and buy one like yours.

[Phillip Carr]

I was fortunate to find this DEO and at a price that allowed me to put money in it. Then be able to work with Chris in restoring it with stock dimensions that fit me perfectly. This is one of those guns that while resting during your hunt you can really enjoy just looking at all of the details.