question on barrel s

[charlie cleveland]

what kind of steel would the barrel be of a parker brothers gun have if the writing on top of barrels said PLAIN STEEL. would it be like modern steel or would it bedamascus or wire twist.i was just wondering if any body else had seen plain steel written on top of barrels and what type of steel it is. charlie

[Dave Suponski]

Charlie, Plain Steel barrels were found on the very early Parker Bros. guns.We believe these barrels were made from surplus musket barrels left over from Parkers contract with the US goverment during the Civil War. These barrels are thought to be unshootable by many. Myself included...:)

[Kurt Densmore]

Mr. Suponski,
Are you thinking of "decarbonized steel" ?? Plain Steel is usually a twist type of damascus as is Stub twist.

Charlie, tell us about the Plain Steel Hammer gun you found. Has it been blued? Lifter ?

Kurt

Charlie, Plain Steel barrels were found on the very early Parker Bros. guns.We believe these barrels were made from surplus musket barrels left over from Parkers contract with the US goverment during the Civil War. These barrels are thought to be unshootable by many. Myself included...:)

[Drew Hause]

"Plain Steel" is not pattern welded steel and was used for a short period in transition from "Decarbonized Steel" or "Bessemer process homogenous wrought iron" which was sourced from Remington

http://pic20.picturetrail.com:80/VOL1373/6511424/19406549/295122617.jpg

1874 Price List

http://pic20.picturetrail.com:80/VOL1373/6511424/19406549/325557299.jpg

Plain Steel 1875 12g 0 Grade courtesy of Wally Shayer

http://pic20.picturetrail.com:80/VOL1373/6511424/19406549/268570027.jpg

I agree with Dave and would not use the barrels with ANY load.


The musket stuff was "Best Gun Iron" on this 1866 Price list

http://pic20.picturetrail.com:80/VOL1373/6511424/19406549/325553103.jpg

[Kurt Densmore]

Thanks Drew. I was thinking "Plain Twist".......

Per TPS......889 guns made with Decarbonized steel bbls
358 guns made with "Plain Steel"
11,866 guns made with "Plain Twist"

Probably all being lifters. But, never say never.

Charlie, you found a rare one.

Kurt

[James T. Kucaba]

Thanks Drew. I was thinking "Plain Twist".......

Per TPS......889 guns made with Decarbonized steel bbls
358 guns made with "Plain Steel"
11,866 guns made with "Plain Twist"

Probably all being lifters. But, never say never.

Charlie, you found a rare one.

Kurt


Hmmmmmm ... I've seen lots of guns with "Plain Twist barrels, but never heard of "Plain Steel" before ... So thanks for the enlightenment !

Jim Kucaba ... AriZOOna Cactus Patch ... Email: JimKucaba@aol.com

[charlie cleveland]

KURT DEMORE THIS GUN IS A LIFTER GUN 12 GA. 30 INCH BARRELS. THANKS FELLAS FOR THE INFO ON GUN. CHARLIE

[charlie cleveland]

fellas the barrels that read plain steel are on gunbroker item no 174111222 . i am not interested in them.rare barrels... hope some of you fellas get it... charlie